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    Messi = Lebron James: could chest!!!!!!
     
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    Nooooo way dude! Messi is beyond Lebron in their relative sports. Messi is considered to be the top two or three best of all times. If he can lead argentina to some world cups then many would say he is the best of all time. But that's another argument.

    Lebron isn't considered to be the best at all! Yes he is good, definitely one of the top players of recent history (post-jordan) but of all time?? Nah, not close. Not yet at least, he hasn't proven himself yet. He might have some amazing individual numbers but not championships. 


     
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    [QUOTE]Messi = Lebron James: could chest!!!!!!
    Posted by santafesino[/QUOTE]
    I don't think so. Football is a team sport to an even greater degree than basketball so it's not right to compare the teams in different sports to each other.
    And besides Messi is not a choker like LeBron, he scored in both finals in UEFA Champion's league when they won it all.
     
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    [QUOTE]Messi is beyond Lebron in their relative sports. Messi is considered to be the top two or three best of all times. If he can lead argentina to some world cups then many would say he is the best of all time. But that's another argument. Lebron isn't considered to be the best at all!
    Posted by bostonnpride[/QUOTE]
    Oh and i'm not so sure that Messi's considered to be the top two or three best of all times. Maradona almost singlehandedly led Argentinian national squad to 2 World championships, Pele is the only player to win the World Cup 3 times, Zidane is the WC and EC champion and he won many other trophies, also there were the players like Ronaldo from Brazil, George Best, Garrincha, Cruyff and they all played at the exceptional level.
    So maybe Messi is in top 10Smile
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: messi = Lebron James : Oh and i'm not so sure that Messi's considered to be the top two or three best of all times. Maradona almost singlehandedly led Argentinian national squad to 2 World championships, Pele is the only player to win the World Cup 3 times, Zidane is the WC and EC champion and he won many other trophies, also there were the players like Ronaldo from Brazil, George Best, Garrincha, Cruyff and they all played at the exceptional level. So maybe Messi is in top 10
    Posted by Fields4[/QUOTE]HEY DUDE, when making any best of list, you must include GEORGE WEAH!
     
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    How can you compare these two players when messi has championships with Barcelona and lebron doesn't have nothing.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: messi = Lebron James : Oh and i'm not so sure that Messi's considered to be the top two or three best of all times. Maradona almost singlehandedly led Argentinian national squad to 2 World championships, Pele is the only player to win the World Cup 3 times, Zidane is the WC and EC champion and he won many other trophies, also there were the players like Ronaldo from Brazil, George Best, Garrincha, Cruyff and they all played at the exceptional level. So maybe Messi is in top 10
    Posted by Fields4[/QUOTE]

    Argentina's 2 World Cup winning teams were filled with top players, to write that the brilliant Maradona "almost singlehandedly" led them to victory is absolutely false.
     
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    Maradona wasn't even part of the 1978 squad!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: messi = Lebron James : Oh and i'm not so sure that Messi's considered to be the top two or three best of all times. Maradona almost singlehandedly led Argentinian national squad to 2 World championships, Pele is the only player to win the World Cup 3 times, Zidane is the WC and EC champion and he won many other trophies, also there were the players like Ronaldo from Brazil, George Best, Garrincha, Cruyff and they all played at the exceptional level. So maybe Messi is in top 10
    Posted by Fields4[/QUOTE]

    You are right, at the moment he is probably in the top 10, maybe in the top 5 for some people. But in any case to be considered one of the best at age 24 is incredible! Yes he hasn't won any World Cups yet, but he has a many more years to play. So by the end of his career, he may very well be remembered as the best in history. And with the way he is playing I would be very suprised if he does not lead Argentina to a World Cup soon. 

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: messi = Lebron James : HEY DUDE, when making any best of list, you must include GEORGE WEAH!
    Posted by COMMUNIST-CONTRARIAN[/QUOTE]

    Yeah, totally forgot him, he was a beast!

    [QUOTE]Maradona wasn't even part of the 1978 squad![/QUOTE]

    Yes, he wasn't, forgot that one tooSmile Anyway he's got Silver Medal from 1990.

    [QUOTE]Argentina's 2 World Cup winning teams were filled with top players, to write that the brilliant Maradona  led them to victory is absolutely false
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    Well, maybe saying "almost singlehandedly" is a little bit too much and football is a team sport by definition, but he played such a prominent role in winning that title that i think he deserves that honour. By the way there are many specialists and fans that stick to this opinion

    [QUOTE]You are right, at the moment he is probably in the top 10, maybe in the top 5 for some people. But in any case to be considered one of the best at age 24 is incredible! Yes he hasn't won any World Cups yet, but he has a many more years to play. So by the end of his career, he may very well be remembered as the best in history. And with the way he is playing I would be very surprised if he does not lead Argentina to a World Cup soon. [/QUOTE]

    Totally agree with you! I think that Argentina just needs a good coach (not Maradona!Laughing)

     
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    This is for those who compare him to maradona.
    Pierce was like Maradona, Messi is like Lebron.
    when the truth .... Escenic fear
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: messi = Lebron James : Argentina's 2 World Cup winning teams were filled with top players, to write that the brilliant Maradona "almost singlehandedly" led them to victory is absolutely false.
    Posted by SonicsMonksLyresVicars[/QUOTE]
    Maradona won the world championship helped by 10 dogs.
    was worse in 90 and played with the ankle injury.
    messi .... Bitter
    and cold  chest!!!
    go play in Spain or to the bench!!!
    Aguante Unión y Carlitos  Delfino!!!
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: messi = Lebron James : Argentina's 2 World Cup winning teams were filled with top players, to write that the brilliant Maradona "almost singlehandedly" led them to victory is absolutely false.
    Posted by SonicsMonksLyresVicars[/QUOTE]

    You take out Marradona and Argentina doesn't make the semi-finals, take out any other players they would at least still be in the World Cup finals
     
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    At age 24 Pele was already considered the best in world ever. Won first world cup when he was 18, in 1958. He was the real king. Lebron, Messi, no even close...
     
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    [QUOTE]At age 24 Pele was already considered the best in world ever. Won first world cup when he was 18, in 1958. He was the real king. Lebron, Messi, no even close...
    Posted by jonrob777[/QUOTE]
    pele is The King. Maradona.... Emperor
     
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    Lebron isnt considered greatest anything... other than melting down. Hes choked too often and faaded away when the lights were brightest to ever be in that discussion again.

    Messi, whether you want to rate him greatest or top 10.. at least he brings his game just about all the time. Messi doesnt jog off to the sideline scared of the ball or doesnt get rid of the ball as soon as it comes near him when the game's on the line.

    Stop falling for all the espn and media hype. You dopes cant even analysis whats before your own eyes. Anyone placing Lebron on the list of greatest of all time is a moron
     
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    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/715370/romario_top_10_goals/

    Cruyf and Pele have both called Romario the best finisher ever; only player other than Pele with over 1,000 career goals. The link above has a top ten list, there are better goals not on the list from when he won titles in Europe (inlcuding at Barcelona, just like Messi) not included but the link gives a flavor. Unlike Messi, Romario also led his country to its first World Cup championship (since Pele in the 70s) in 1994 right here in the US. He was the top player of the tournament and world footballer of the year. The bicyle kick (#3) was made when he was 37 years old; #2 I witnessed in person, it was something else (both an "elistico" and a "chapeau" in one move) - in American English we would say his ball moves "turned the defender inside out" and then he chipped the goalie (ie, gave him a hat); #1 was to get Brazil to qualify for the World Cup 1994 in the first place (if they didn't win that game, they didn't go...Romario always performed best when the pressure was on). In 2005, he played his last year at 40 years old and led the Brazilian A (top) league in goals. Obviously Pele is the king, Romario has always said this. LeBron is LeChoke, LeSchmuck, whatever, but he ain't the king of anything (only in his own mind).
     
    Below is what Romario (o Baixinhho = short one) said when he retired in 2004; translation: essentially that he was the best Brazilian Selecao player since 1970 (ie, since Pele). "Segundo o Baixinho, ele foi o melhor jogador que já passou pela seleção brasileira desde a geração de 70.  - "Sou o principal jogador após a Copa do Mundo de 1970. Não tenho dúvidas disso" - afirmou o atacante."
    No Doubt, Baixinho, no doubt! Because Romario knew how good he was, the Axx hole Brazilian coaches left him off the 1998 and 2002 World Cup squads.

    Messi is young and an artist and at 24 has accomplished just about what Romario did at that age for his club team; let's see what he can do for Argentina going forward. The Copa America just started and Messi stated that winning the South American Championship for Argentina is a key goal for his personnel resume; let's see how does on this stage before figuring out his place amongst the greatest players such as Romario 
     
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    [QUOTE]http://www.metacafe.com/watch/715370/romario_top_10_goals/ Cruyf and Pele have both called Romario the best finisher ever; only player other than Pele with over 1,000 career goals. The link above has a top ten list, there are better goals not on the list from when he won titles in Europe (inlcuding at Barcelona, just like Messi) not included but the link gives a flavor. Unlike Messi, Romario also led his country to its first World Cup championship (since Pele in the 70s) in 1994 right here in the US. He was the top player of the tournament and world footballer of the year. The bicyle kick (#3) was made when he was 37 years old; #2 I witnessed in person, it was something else (both an "elistico" and a "chapeau" in one move) - in American English we would say his ball moves "turned the defender inside out" and then he chipped the goalie (ie, gave him a hat); #1 was to get Brazil to qualify for the World Cup 1994 in the first place (if they didn't win that game, they didn't go...
    Posted by futbal[/QUOTE]

    Thanks for the link. Actually i've never seen a single match with Romario (even on TV) but i've heard that he was a type of footballer who was standing somewhere on the opponent's half for about 80 minutes doing nothing and then unexpectedly scored a winning goalSmile
     
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    [QUOTE]http://www.metacafe.com/watch/715370/romario_top_10_goals/ Cruyf and Pele have both called Romario the best finisher ever; only player other than Pele with over 1,000 career goals. The link above has a top ten list, there are better goals not on the list from when he won titles in Europe (inlcuding at Barcelona, just like Messi) not included but the link gives a flavor. Unlike Messi, Romario also led his country to its first World Cup championship (since Pele in the 70s) in 1994 right here in the US. He was the top player of the tournament and world footballer of the year. The bicyle kick (#3) was made when he was 37 years old; #2 I witnessed in person, it was something else (both an "elistico" and a "chapeau" in one move) - in American English we would say his ball moves "turned the defender inside out" and then he chipped the goalie (ie, gave him a hat); #1 was to get Brazil to qualify for the World Cup 1994 in the first place (if they didn't win that game, they didn't go...Romario always performed best when the pressure was on). In 2005, he played his last year at 40 years old and led the Brazilian A (top) league in goals. Obviously Pele is the king, Romario has always said this. LeBron is LeChoke, LeSchmuck, whatever, but he ain't the king of anything (only in his own mind).   Below is what Romario (o Baixinhho = short one) said when he retired in 2004; translation: essentially that he was the best Brazilian Selecao player since 1970 (ie, since Pele). "Segundo o Baixinho, ele foi o melhor jogador que já passou pela seleção brasileira desde a geração de 70.  - "Sou o principal jogador após a Copa do Mundo de 1970. Não tenho dúvidas disso" - afirmou o atacante." No Doubt, Baixinho, no doubt! Because Romario knew how good he was, the Axx hole Brazilian coaches left him off the 1998 and 2002 World Cup squads. Messi is young and an artist and at 24 has accomplished just about what Romario did at that age for his club team; let's see what he can do for Argentina going forward. The Copa America just started and Messi stated that winning the South American Championship for Argentina is a key goal for his personnel resume; let's see how does on this stage before figuring out his place amongst the greatest players such as Romario 
    Posted by futbal[/QUOTE]

    Futbal are you Brazilian?  Your knowledge of soccer is very impressive. Romario was good but not in the same level of Pele, Falcao, Tostao, Garrincha. He was what they call a "oportunista". He made more than 1000 goals, but he played longer than most other players. Don't know exactly but I believe the retired a age of 40. 

     
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    I'm not Brazilian, but I've been there and was lucky enough to witness two of his great goals in that 1999 game against Corinthians (he was obviously playing for Flamengo) at Pacaembu Stadium. He certainly was opportunistic, but  hey, somebody has to score the goals. Now, if you google his early career with PSV (3 Dutch Championships) and Barcelona (one Spanish Championship in his two seasons there), I think you might agree that he was far more than a goal hanger with good finishing moves, not that that's bad, but he could run the field and fake guys out as well. Back to the topic of Messi, I think of the young Romario as having the moves of Messi but the strength of Tevez; the Romario of 1994 would be the best player in the World today, hands down. So no, I can not agree that he does not belong up there in the Pantheon of great Brazilian stars excluding of course Pele and maybe Garrincha as well. By the way, today Romario is a representative in Brasilia.
    Again, don't take my word on him, here are four of the all-time best who played and coached (Cruyff) with him:
    • Johan Cruyff defined him as "genius of the goal area".
    • Former Argentina international player Diego Maradona, in his autobiography Yo soy El Diego, described Romário as an "incredible finisher" adding that he had not seen a striker like him, and mentioning that Romário would be in his all-time "dream team" without any hesitation.
    • Roberto Baggio said: "Romário is one of the greatest players of all time. He has good technique and personality. He is a master of art in the penalty area."
    • Michael Laudrup has stated that Romario was his favorite striking partner throughout his career. "No one else could utilize my passes the way he did."

     
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    [QUOTE]I'm not Brazilian, but I've been there and was lucky enough to witness two of his great goals in that 1999 game against Corinthians (he was obviously playing for Flamengo) at Pacaembu Stadium. He certainly was opportunistic, but  hey, somebody has to score the goals. Now, if you google his early career with PSV (3 Dutch Championships) and Barcelona (one Spanish Championship in his two seasons there), I think you might agree that he was far more than a goal hanger with good finishing moves, not that that's bad, but he could run the field and fake guys out as well. Back to the topic of Messi, I think of the young Romario as having the moves of Messi but the strength of Tevez; the Romario of 1994 would be the best player in the World today, hands down. So no, I can not agree that he does not belong up there in the Pantheon of great Brazilian stars excluding of course Pele and maybe Garrincha as well. By the way, today Romario is a representative in Brasilia. Again, don't take my word on him, here are four of the all-time best who played and coached (Cruyff) with him: Johan Cruyff defined him as "genius of the goal area". Former Argentina international player Diego Maradona , in his autobiography Yo soy El Diego, described Romário as an "incredible finisher" adding that he had not seen a striker like him, and mentioning that Romário would be in his all-time " dream team " without any hesitation. Roberto Baggio said: "Romário is one of the greatest players of all time. He has good technique and personality. He is a master of art in the penalty area." Michael Laudrup has stated that Romario was his favorite striking partner throughout his career. "No one else could utilize my passes the way he did."
    Posted by futbal[/QUOTE]


    Thanks. Excellent post. Soccer used to be my favorite and only sport until I starting watching the Celtics  back in the 80's with the real big three od Larry Bird, Kevin Mchale and Robert Parish. Awesome trio!!
     
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    HAHA. That is like comparing MJ to Lebron. No Championships vs 6! But people still seem to try. Lebron is the King of Nothing. He is a 12 year old in the body of an adult. There is a reason why they call him the Manchild. Hope he falls flat on his face every year, but unfortuately he will eventually win.  
     
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