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    MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/24/2010 12:09 PM EDT

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5609817

    Just another example of Stern influencing the outcome of games next season. 
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/24/2010 12:54 PM EDT

    In Response to MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON:
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5609817 Just another example of Stern influencing the outcome of games next season. 
    Posted by susan250


    "The proper mindset, in every player's mind, is abstinence. That is: to not complain," NBA executive vice president of basketball operations Stu Jackson said. "The focus here is to just play the game. We have a great game. We have great players. We have a great product. Let's focus on executing offense and defense and being highly competitive. Complaining doesn't have a part in our game, and complaining has never changed a non-call to a call, or a call to a non-call."

    I agree with the new rules. Complaining needs to stop.

     If you don't like the new rules or can't live with the player's absence of "free speech", then for goodness sake... fans and players alike.... find another sport.


    Pud
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/24/2010 1:05 PM EDT

    Can you imagine by how many techs the Celtics thugs wanna be will break their own record????????? Celtics thug wanna be behavior will not be tolerated. ABOUT TIME.
    BACK TO BACK WITH OUT SHAQ!!!!!!!!
    SWEET THREE PEAT LOADING...
    GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DYNASTY!!!!!!!
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/24/2010 1:21 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON:
    Can you imagine by how many techs the Celtics thugs wanna be will break their own record????????? Celtics thug wanna be behavior will not be tolerated. ABOUT TIME. BACK TO BACK WITH OUT SHAQ!!!!!!!! SWEET THREE PEAT LOADING... GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DYNASTY!!!!!!!
    Posted by GREEN-KILLER1000


    koME was 3rd in the league last year
    Sheed has retired
    Perk is out until Feb


    Oh oh.......................guess who's #1?
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/24/2010 1:28 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON:
    In Response to Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON : koME was 3rd in the league last year Sheed has retired Perk is out until Feb Oh oh.......................guess who's #1?
    Posted by BirdandCowens


    Ha...great response man....made him look as stupid as he sounds!!
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/24/2010 1:32 PM EDT

    In Response to MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON:
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5609817 Just another example of Stern influencing the outcome of games next season. 
    Posted by susan250


    I agree with Susan. I disagree with PUD!!
    Nba is saturated with unnecessary rules and regulation. By imposing so many, they can manipulate the outcome of the game (legally based on their rules) in any which way.

    These player's adrenalins are on the rush, the game is fast & physical. Raising fist, stumping, and gorilla chest beating can't be avoided.

     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/24/2010 1:34 PM EDT

    LOL!!!!! Still have KG, Pierce (who argues every call) Big Baby, and believe me when Perk comes back he will catch up even if he only plays for a month.
    BACK TO BACK WITH OUT SHAQ!!!!!!!
    SWEET THREE PEAT LOADING...
    GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DYNASTY!!!!!!!!!!!

    REMEMBER WE ARE THE 2 TIME DEFENDING CHAMPIONS.Cool
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/24/2010 1:56 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON:
    LOL!!!!! Still have KG, Pierce (who argues every call) Big Baby, and believe me when Perk comes back he will catch up even if he only plays for a month. BACK TO BACK WITH OUT SHAQ!!!!!!! SWEET THREE PEAT LOADING... GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DYNASTY!!!!!!!!!!! REMEMBER WE ARE THE 2 TIME DEFENDING CHAMPIONS.
    Posted by GREEN-KILLER1000

    I don't believe you
    Who said the lakers were NOT defending champions on this board?
    Who cares anyway?
    How's Bynum doing - go Theo!!
    You are a troll who can't spell
    You've been banned over 100 times - get lost
    Stop stalking me, son!
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/24/2010 2:00 PM EDT

    I read the article and I think the referees are getting a little too thin skinned. These rule changes on technical fouls are going too far. Some slight changes may be in order, but no extreme changes.
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/24/2010 3:11 PM EDT

    Che is right. You need to let players blow off a little steam as long as they don't cross the line. In hockey, they let them fight!
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/24/2010 3:25 PM EDT

    expect it from the refs coz they hate celtics  and they want to make another history in the making....it's already cook..

     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/24/2010 5:45 PM EDT

    Rule will never be enforced equally.
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/24/2010 5:48 PM EDT

    This is more window dressing from Stern. Instead of fixing the real problem, he wants to make sure that the players do not high light star-calls, and poor officiating. If the players don't make a big deal about calls, many newer fans will likely think that the officiating has improved.

    If he wanted to make the NBA more of a sport and less an entertainment, he would stop the star-calls.

    1. Howard - no driving into the chest of other players with his shoulder lowered.
    2. Lebron - no more four or five step travels with the ball tucker under his arm.
    3. Durant - no more fouls when he misses a shot and nobody is close.
    4. Kome - no more flagrant fouls that are not called
    5. Nowinski - no more elbow clear out moves
    6. Pierce - no more football running back drives to the hoop (He does have to dribble)
    7. Rondo - no palming the ball
    8. Kome - refusal to foul out the Laker's star player under any circumstances.
    In the finals Kome had five fouls for much of one game and he dared the refs to toss him with his aggressive play. They did not.

    Also changing the way that games are called needs to stop. In general the NBA has traditionally called regular season games tighter than playoff games. This was true for most of last year and also true for most of the play-offs.

    It changed for games one and two of the finals. Such turn arounds in officiating style artificially influence games and it should not be allowed.


    While some of these star-calls offer minor advantages like Rondo, dominating advantages are allowed for Lebron, Howard, and Durant.

    If Stern were serious about improving the game, those are things that he would stop. Instead he has put even more power in the hands of the officials to control the game.
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/24/2010 6:02 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON:
    This is more window dressing from Stern. Instead of fixing the real problem, he wants to make sure that the players do not high light star-calls, and poor officiating. If the players don't make a big deal about calls, many newer fans will likely think that the officiating has improved. If he wanted to make the NBA more of a sport and less an entertainment, he would stop the star-calls. 1. Howard - no driving into the chest of other players with his shoulder lowered. 2. Lebron - no more four or five step travels with the ball tucker under his arm. 3. Durant - no more fouls when he misses a shot and nobody is close. 4. Kome - no more flagrant fouls that are not called 5. Nowinski - no more elbow clear out moves 6. Pierce - no more football running back drives to the hoop (He does have to dribble) 7. Rondo - no palming the ball 8. Kome - refusal to foul out the Laker's star player under any circumstances. In the finals Kome had five fouls for much of one game and he dared the refs to toss him with his aggressive play. They did not. Also changing the way that games are called needs to stop. In general the NBA has traditionally called regular season games tighter than playoff games. This was true for most of last year and also true for most of the play-offs. It changed for games one and two of the finals. Such turn arounds in officiating style artificially influence games and it should not be allowed. While some of these star-calls offer minor advantages like Rondo, dominating advantages are allowed for Lebron, Howard, and Durant. If Stern were serious about improving the game, those are things that he would stop. Instead he has put even more power in the hands of the officials to control the game.
    Posted by TeamUmbutu


    Great post!  I really believe this will have a negative outcome during the season and more complaining by the NBA fans.  Many interesting posts by NBA fans about this article on ESPN.   
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/25/2010 1:01 AM EDT

    I had a second thought. More technicals called means more big fines for players which increases revenue to the NBA big wigs. Stern and the others just gave themselves a big fat pay raise.
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/25/2010 6:15 AM EDT

    God has only 10 commandments and they are effective.

    The United States government has laws and regulations as long the tapeworm and still growing........yet people still killing & hating each other.

    ....now the NBA rules is about near the tail of the tapeworm.Frown
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/25/2010 7:34 AM EDT

    Stern needs to go! Plain and simple. "Don't pay any attention to the man behind the curtain"
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/25/2010 7:35 AM EDT

    In Response to Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON:
    In Response to MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON : "The proper mindset, in every player's mind, is abstinence. That is: to not complain," NBA executive vice president of basketball operations Stu Jackson said. "The focus here is to just play the game. We have a great game. We have great players. We have a great product. Let's focus on executing offense and defense and being highly competitive. Complaining doesn't have a part in our game, and complaining has never changed a non-call to a call, or a call to a non-call." I agree with the new rules. Complaining needs to stop.  If you don't like the new rules or can't live with the player's absence of "free speech", then for goodness sake... fans and players alike.... find another sport. Pud
    Posted by puddinpuddin


    You are so wrong it hurts to read your posts. Complaining has been the source of every rule change and every interpretation change that the NBA has made. How do you think we wound up with the rules regarding offensive fouls. It was complaining about how bad the calls were, how inconsistent they were, that brought it to the attention of the league. A lot of complaining.

    I you don't like complaining about bad calls you should change sports because in the history of the NBA if has been a regular part of the game.

    What I don't like is Stern suppressing free speech by fineing anyone who complains about bad foul calls and by virtue of that he suppresses the complaining by the people who should be heard the most. The players and the coaches.

    It is ridiculous for anyone to say that complaining about inconsistent and bad calls is somehow out of line.
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/25/2010 10:15 AM EDT

    The refs need to call the game as if every player is equal. Number and name should make no difference.
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/25/2010 11:38 AM EDT

    Another bad move by the NBA. This is to make sure the puppets, I mean players, are good little boys and dont give the viewing public any reason to believe the games are fixed or the refs have agendas. As bad as the refs have been, Stern wants to empower them more and make their "T" calls even more Subjective now..

    The NBA is no less than a dictatorship where the players must be silent and nod their heads like bobble dolls so the rest of the world thinks everything is just peachy.  Take emotion out of the game because it spotlights the real problem, the NBA refs and Sterns agenda.
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/25/2010 11:43 AM EDT

    Ooooooh more free throws.  Can't wait.
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/25/2010 4:54 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON:
    Another bad move by the NBA. This is to make sure the puppets, I mean players, are good little boys and dont give the viewing public any reason to believe the games are fixed or the refs have agendas. As bad as the refs have been, Stern wants to empower them more and make their "T" calls even more Subjective now.. The NBA is no less than a dictatorship where the players must be silent and nod their heads like bobble dolls so the rest of the world thinks everything is just peachy.  Take emotion out of the game because it spotlights the real problem, the NBA refs and Sterns agenda.
    Posted by Karllost
    The funniest part is that there can't be two adults watching this game "The NBA" in it's currant form who don't immediately think that Vince McMahon is the real commissioner of the NBA. The product has gone down hill ever since Creepy Sterns took over! More crooked Referees now than ever in the history of the game. Who really cares except the Bookies! I won't bet on a Basketball game because the games are fixed. OH well enough on this subject how about that Randy Orton dude on WWE?
     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/25/2010 5:45 PM EDT

    Sprortsbozo, that's a lot of hogwash. The NBA isn't fixed.

     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/25/2010 7:26 PM EDT

    "The proper mindset, in every player's mind, is abstinence. That is: to not complain,"

    I find the very idea of this to be abhorrent.

    What planet to the officials live on? You could have several bad calls go against you in a game and yet you can't complain or show disgust on the court?

    "Players making aggressive gestures, such as air punches, anywhere on the court."

    Just what classifies as an air punch? Players do air punches after making a huge play, is that now illegal? Some dunks are also aggressive, as are moves to the basket.

     

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    Re: MORE CALLS BY THE REFS NEXT SEASON

    posted at 9/25/2010 7:37 PM EDT

    Without Sheed and Perk missing most of the season I don't think this will affect the Celtics that much. The Lakers on the other hand might get more techs out of this because Kobe tends to react violently when he doesn't like the call.