Most imortant need... a 7ft Double Digit Scorer & Rebounder

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    Ya know, last night I felt a little deja vu and hating to open old wounds but it seemed a bit like our game 7 loss in 2010. Yup, I also know that losing really helps us get closer to the top 5 ping pong ball teams but as I hate the Lakers, I almost felt like biting off my nose to spite my face as we build a 13 pt lead with 2 min to go 3rd Qtr(same in 2010) and I wanted a victory. I especially wanted it when D'Antoni said they'd come back... a guru he is not but did become prophetic & we became pathetic. 

    We lost because we could not compete with Gasol and he played limited time too( who schooled us too in 2010) and Kaman( Bynum in 2010) both 7 footers got 32 points. Garnett was really a PF in Game 7 & also had a mediocre game & we needed one or two 3s from Ray Allen & didn't get them at crunch time while Farmar as in 2010 killed us with 3s.


    We have been needing a Center since Perkins went down in game 6 and he wasn't a scorer but a good defender but with PP, KG & Allen we didn't need him to score. OK, I'm beating a dead horse here as I'm sure we all know we need a Center & I would try all possible to get Embiid and, if not, Asik. Also, got to get rid of Wallace and won't break my heart to see Bass & Green go too. Keep Sully, Oly and Johnson & draft or trade for 2 more PFs and our Guard situation is fine.

     
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    Ya know, last night I felt a little deja vu and hating to open old wounds but it seemed a bit like our game 7 loss in 2010. Yup, I also know that losing really helps us get closer to the top 5 ping pong ball teams but as I hate the Lakers, I almost felt like biting off my nose to spite my face as we build a 13 pt lead with 2 min to go 3rd Qtr(same in 2010) and I wanted a victory. I especially wanted it when D'Antoni said they'd come back... a guru he is not but did become prophetic & we became pathetic. 

    We lost because we could not compete with Gasol and he played limited time too( who schooled us too in 2010) and Kaman( Bynum in 2010) both 7 footers got 32 points. Garnett was really a PF in Game 7 & also had a mediocre game & we needed one or two 3s from Ray Allen & didn't get them at crunch time while Farmar as in 2010 killed us with 3s.


    We have been needing a Center since Perkins went down in game 6 and he wasn't a scorer but a good defender but with PP, KG & Allen we didn't need him to score. OK, I'm beating a dead horse here as I'm sure we all know we need a Center & I would try all possible to get Embiid and, if not, Asik. Also, got to get rid of Wallace and won't break my heart to see Bass & Green go too. Keep Sully, Oly and Johnson & draft or trade for 2 more PFs and our Guard situation is fine.



    I agree with a lot of what you say, but I want a longer closer look at Faerani.  He is a big boy.  He is experienced.  I recall him hustling, diving and muscleing pretty well early in the season.

    He looked a lot better than Perkins ever did. 

    I want to see him running with Rondo, Green, Sullinger and Bass as a starting 5 before we trade away other valuable players to get a better 5.

     
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    Thisneed for a true center is not new in any way, and I can certainly understand your frustration.

    For all that Danny Ainge has done in Boston, he does not seem to either think that the center position is important or just cannot find a guy to fit into his salary cap limitations.

    Those double digit rebounds you mention are much more important than blocked shots and even more important than scoring lots of points because if this mystery player gets 12 rebounds a game that will mean that there will be about 7 or 8 less offensive rebounds for the other team.

    Yielding so many second chances to opponents night after night really hurts your ability to win games and especially those games that are close in the 4th quarter.  

    How many games have the C's lost this year in the 4th quarter?  i am guessing at least a dozen. And, even if you might think that losing this year is OK as the team rebuilds they have lost games in previous years when they could not rebound late in the game and are likely to lose more games in the future for the same reason.

     
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    Thisneed for a true center is not new in any way, and I can certainly understand your frustration.

    For all that Danny Ainge has done in Boston, he does not seem to either think that the center position is important or just cannot find a guy to fit into his salary cap limitations.

    Those double digit rebounds you mention are much more important than blocked shots and even more important than scoring lots of points because if this mystery player gets 12 rebounds a game that will mean that there will be about 7 or 8 less offensive rebounds for the other team.

    Yielding so many second chances to opponents night after night really hurts your ability to win games and especially those games that are close in the 4th quarter.  

    How many games have the C's lost this year in the 4th quarter?  i am guessing at least a dozen. And, even if you might think that losing this year is OK as the team rebuilds they have lost games in previous years when they could not rebound late in the game and are likely to lose more games in the future for the same reason.

    You are 100% + correct  about the following:
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    Those double digit rebounds you mention are much more important than blocked shots and even more important than scoring lots of points because if this mystery player gets 12 rebounds a game that will mean that there will be about 7 or 8 less offensive rebounds for the other team.

    Yielding so many second chances to opponents night after night really hurts your ability to win games and especially those games that are close in the 4th quarter. 

    Since the lost to the Lakers in 2010 we were almost last in rebounding and needed to shoot 45-50% to win games as being outrebounded by 10+, you are correct they are 2nd chances and teams who shoot 35-45% would beat us. And, not able to continue to shoot 45-50%, we'd lose many games in the 4th Qtr and you are correct, we've needed a Center even when we had Perkins for quite a few years. I think if we can get Embiid and along with Sully and Oly(hope he develops) we could have the best Post Players since Bird, Parrish & McHale days.

    By the way, what is the status with Faverini as no problem having 2 twin towers as Lakers did with Gasol/Bynum and Spurs with Robinson/ Duncan etc. and one can relieve the other or both can play at the same time.

     

     
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    Would it be nice to have a 7-footer that averages a double-double? Sure. But the perception that there are a ton of guys like that out there is nonsense. Those are guys teams build around. 

    Here are the people that are averaging a double-double in points and boards:

    Kevin Love - available and Boston might have the pieces to get a trade done/cap space to sign him. My problem with K-Love is he doesn't play defense. 

    Blake Griffin - not available. His growth has given LAC more incentive not to trade him. 

    LaMarcus Aldridge - could be available, but all signs point to him re-signing in Portland.

    Zach Randolph - could be avaiable, but Boston already has Sullinger, who I like more because he's younger, cheaper, smarter.

    David Lee - could be available. Doesn't play defense, and I'm assuming the double-double guy you guys want Boston to build around has to be a decent rim protector. 

    Tristan Thompson (12 and 9 per game) - could be available, but I don't think he fits the mold. 

    Anthony Davis - not available. 

    Tim Duncan - not available.

    Greg Monroe - Detriot doesn't want to move him, but he's definitely available. Not a true center at 6'11, but I'm a huge fan.

    Drummond - not available.

    Howard - not available.

    Cousins - Kings want to build around him so I'll go with not available.

    Noah - not available. Won't leave the Bulls anyway.

    DeAndre Jordan - not available.

    Big Al - not available. Bad defender. 

    Nikola Pekovic - not available. Really skilled offensively, but terrible defensively. 

    Derek Favors - not available. Utah just extended him.

    Varejao - too injury prone.

    Nikola Vucevic - not available. Orlando wants to build around him. But overpaying for him during free agency might work. 

    These guys are hard to find. That's why guys like DeAndre, Tyson Chandler, and Sanders are significantly overpaid. GM's recognize that you need a rim protector that can fill up stat sheets. Boston's best bet is to draft one (good luck) or overpay.

     
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    Would it be nice to have a 7-footer that averages a double-double? Sure. But the perception that there are a ton of guys like that out there is nonsense. Those are guys teams build around. 

    Here are the people that are averaging a double-double in points and boards:

    Kevin Love - available and Boston might have the pieces to get a trade done/cap space to sign him. My problem with K-Love is he doesn't play defense. 

    Blake Griffin - not available. His growth has given LAC more incentive not to trade him. 

    LaMarcus Aldridge - could be available, but all signs point to him re-signing in Portland.

    Zach Randolph - could be avaiable, but Boston already has Sullinger, who I like more because he's younger, cheaper, smarter.

    David Lee - could be available. Doesn't play defense, and I'm assuming the double-double guy you guys want Boston to build around has to be a decent rim protector. 

    Tristan Thompson (12 and 9 per game) - could be available, but I don't think he fits the mold. 

    Anthony Davis - not available. 

    Tim Duncan - not available.

    Greg Monroe - Detriot doesn't want to move him, but he's definitely available. Not a true center at 6'11, but I'm a huge fan.

    Drummond - not available.

    Howard - not available.

    Cousins - Kings want to build around him so I'll go with not available.

    Noah - not available. Won't leave the Bulls anyway.

    DeAndre Jordan - not available.

    Big Al - not available. Bad defender. 

    Nikola Pekovic - not available. Really skilled offensively, but terrible defensively. 

    Derek Favors - not available. Utah just extended him.

    Varejao - too injury prone.

    Nikola Vucevic - not available. Orlando wants to build around him. But overpaying for him during free agency might work. 

    These guys are hard to find. That's why guys like DeAndre, Tyson Chandler, and Sanders are significantly overpaid. GM's recognize that you need a rim protector that can fill up stat sheets. Boston's best bet is to draft one (good luck) or overpay.




    Thank you for the research and analysis---excellent. And I agree that we should do all possible to draft & I recommend getting Embiid. Omer Asik would be a nice addition but not a double double but is playing limited minutes with Houston & could be. As Celtic alumnus Nelson helped us get Parrish from Warriors maybe McHale too would accomodate ???

     
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    As Celtic alumnus Nelson helped us get Parrish from Warriors maybe McHale too would accomodate ???

     

    easy there, sfbf. fact check time.

     
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    Problem is you have to land the #1 pick to guarentee yourself Joel Embiid. He's a great college player and definitely has the skills to be a great center in the NBA. I'm not sure what it would take for Boston to land that pick, but I'm sure Danny will take it into consideration. If they could secure themselves a top-5 pick I think it'll be a good starting point with whoever has #1. Danny could use his picks from Brooklyn plus a sign-and-trade with Avery to get it done. If someone like the Bucks lands that pick it's pretty conceivable they would give it up for the right price. Rondo could be in play there. The Bucks are the sort of team that needs multiple players. PG and SG are huge needs for them. They obviously like Giannis, Henson is a lanky 4, and I think they should keep Larry Sanders. Now they need depth (which you can get in the draft) and guard play (which the Celtics can give them). 

     
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    In response to BaileyPowe's comment:

     

    As Celtic alumnus Nelson helped us get Parrish from Warriors maybe McHale too would accomodate ???

     

    easy there, sfbf. fact check time.

     




    Mea Culpa...fortunately my off the head blunder was not life and death.

     

    For anyone who cares this is how it happened and Nelson didn't coach Warriors until some 10 years later.

     Heading into the 1980 NBA Draft, the Boston Celtics (who already had small forward Larry Bird ready to start his second NBA season) held the number one overall pick. In a pre-draft trade, Celtics President Red Auerbach dealt the top pick and an additional first-round pick to the Warriors for Parish and the Warriors' first-round pick, the third overall. With that pick, the Celtics chose Kevin McHale. The Warriors then selected Joe Barry Carroll with the first pick, whose career eventually was shortened by injuries, and whose perceived laziness earned him the moniker "Joe Barely Cares".

    Loved Parish's(are you happy with the spelling now Rameakap) joking quote when he said "it was like going from an outhouse to a penthouse" when he was traded so I guess some players do love to come to Boston as a few posts said they didn't.

    As we have not been lucky with ping pong ball bounces having missed on Tim Duncan, I would say that we were lucky here as we may have drafted  Joe Barry.

     
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    Ya know, last night I felt a little deja vu and hating to open old wounds but it seemed a bit like our game 7 loss in 2010. Yup, I also know that losing really helps us get closer to the top 5 ping pong ball teams but as I hate the Lakers, I almost felt like biting off my nose to spite my face as we build a 13 pt lead with 2 min to go 3rd Qtr(same in 2010) and I wanted a victory. I especially wanted it when D'Antoni said they'd come back... a guru he is not but did become prophetic & we became pathetic. 

    We lost because we could not compete with Gasol and he played limited time too( who schooled us too in 2010) and Kaman( Bynum in 2010) both 7 footers got 32 points. Garnett was really a PF in Game 7 & also had a mediocre game & we needed one or two 3s from Ray Allen & didn't get them at crunch time while Farmar as in 2010 killed us with 3s.


    We have been needing a Center since Perkins went down in game 6 and he wasn't a scorer but a good defender but with PP, KG & Allen we didn't need him to score. OK, I'm beating a dead horse here as I'm sure we all know we need a Center & I would try all possible to get Embiid and, if not, Asik. Also, got to get rid of Wallace and won't break my heart to see Bass & Green go too. Keep Sully, Oly and Johnson & draft or trade for 2 more PFs and our Guard situation is fine.



    Why stop there? Lets get one that is 8 feet tall.

     
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    In response to 37stories' comment:

    In response to SFBostonFan's comment:

    Ya know, last night I felt a little deja vu and hating to open old wounds but it seemed a bit like our game 7 loss in 2010. Yup, I also know that losing really helps us get closer to the top 5 ping pong ball teams but as I hate the Lakers, I almost felt like biting off my nose to spite my face as we build a 13 pt lead with 2 min to go 3rd Qtr(same in 2010) and I wanted a victory. I especially wanted it when D'Antoni said they'd come back... a guru he is not but did become prophetic & we became pathetic. 

    We lost because we could not compete with Gasol and he played limited time too( who schooled us too in 2010) and Kaman( Bynum in 2010) both 7 footers got 32 points. Garnett was really a PF in Game 7 & also had a mediocre game & we needed one or two 3s from Ray Allen & didn't get them at crunch time while Farmar as in 2010 killed us with 3s.


    We have been needing a Center since Perkins went down in game 6 and he wasn't a scorer but a good defender but with PP, KG & Allen we didn't need him to score. OK, I'm beating a dead horse here as I'm sure we all know we need a Center & I would try all possible to get Embiid and, if not, Asik. Also, got to get rid of Wallace and won't break my heart to see Bass & Green go too. Keep Sully, Oly and Johnson & draft or trade for 2 more PFs and our Guard situation is fine.



    Why stop there? Lets get one that is 8 feet tall.



    lol

     
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    agree that is a big need but I'm still taking Parker over that

     
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    In response to Fiercy's comment:

    Almost every team in the NBA needs a 7-footer who can score and rebound.

     

    The Heat have proven you can win a championship without a 7-footer who can score and rebound.

     

    So let's wait and see what Ainge can do after the season.



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    Yup, but no other team has a LeBron. Even Kobe, many times compared to MJ, needed Gasol & Bynum to win in 2010. As you know Fierce, getting some 10+ rebounds allows 2nd chance shots and as a blind chipmonk occasionally finds an acorn, a team shooting 35-40% can beat one shooting 45-50% with more tries at the basket. Kobe, in fact, only shot 25% in Game 7 but extra rebs gave Farmar & World Peace extra shots and a couple of 3s were daggers.  Yup, I know too that the the egregious difference in foul shots 41-18 and 21 in just the last qtr was critical too but a few more rebs and RA & PP might have added to our 14 pt lead we had at the end of the 3rd Qtr. Hated to bring up old wounds as I'm still pissed at that game !!!

     
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    do they allow robots in the NBA?  I am designing BIGMAN 3000 and I think he could help

     
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    In response to 37stories' comment:

    In response to SFBostonFan's comment:

    Ya know, last night I felt a little deja vu and hating to open old wounds but it seemed a bit like our game 7 loss in 2010. Yup, I also know that losing really helps us get closer to the top 5 ping pong ball teams but as I hate the Lakers, I almost felt like biting off my nose to spite my face as we build a 13 pt lead with 2 min to go 3rd Qtr(same in 2010) and I wanted a victory. I especially wanted it when D'Antoni said they'd come back... a guru he is not but did become prophetic & we became pathetic. 

    We lost because we could not compete with Gasol and he played limited time too( who schooled us too in 2010) and Kaman( Bynum in 2010) both 7 footers got 32 points. Garnett was really a PF in Game 7 & also had a mediocre game & we needed one or two 3s from Ray Allen & didn't get them at crunch time while Farmar as in 2010 killed us with 3s.


    We have been needing a Center since Perkins went down in game 6 and he wasn't a scorer but a good defender but with PP, KG & Allen we didn't need him to score. OK, I'm beating a dead horse here as I'm sure we all know we need a Center & I would try all possible to get Embiid and, if not, Asik. Also, got to get rid of Wallace and won't break my heart to see Bass & Green go too. Keep Sully, Oly and Johnson & draft or trade for 2 more PFs and our Guard situation is fine.



    Why stop there? Lets get one that is 8 feet tall.



    I know,  I know....lets get TWO 8 footers who can go for 10/10 every night!

     

    I mean the 7 footers grow on trees, we all know.

     

     

     

     
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    Thisneed for a true center is not new in any way, and I can certainly understand your frustration.

    For all that Danny Ainge has done in Boston, he does not seem to either think that the center position is important or just cannot find a guy to fit into his salary cap limitations.

    Those double digit rebounds you mention are much more important than blocked shots and even more important than scoring lots of points because if this mystery player gets 12 rebounds a game that will mean that there will be about 7 or 8 less offensive rebounds for the other team.

    Yielding so many second chances to opponents night after night really hurts your ability to win games and especially those games that are close in the 4th quarter.  

    How many games have the C's lost this year in the 4th quarter?  i am guessing at least a dozen. And, even if you might think that losing this year is OK as the team rebuilds they have lost games in previous years when they could not rebound late in the game and are likely to lose more games in the future for the same reason.



    And those missed free throws.If we hade hit 50% of them,the results would have been different.Go celtics.

     

     
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    yep...the celts have been getting shellaced on the boards andthough this season sully is big and stevens sends guys crashing

    but a 7 footer who can get double doubles would be great.  I keep asking WHEN the last time was we had a center and had been forgetting about Perk....funny how I would foget about Perk...he did help bring a championship here....sorry about that perk

     
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    In response to charliedarling's comment:

    Thisneed for a true center is not new in any way, and I can certainly understand your frustration.

    For all that Danny Ainge has done in Boston, he does not seem to either think that the center position is important or just cannot find a guy to fit into his salary cap limitations.

    Those double digit rebounds you mention are much more important than blocked shots and even more important than scoring lots of points because if this mystery player gets 12 rebounds a game that will mean that there will be about 7 or 8 less offensive rebounds for the other team.

    Yielding so many second chances to opponents night after night really hurts your ability to win games and especially those games that are close in the 4th quarter.  

    How many games have the C's lost this year in the 4th quarter?  i am guessing at least a dozen. And, even if you might think that losing this year is OK as the team rebuilds they have lost games in previous years when they could not rebound late in the game and are likely to lose more games in the future for the same reason.




    Re: How many games have the C's lost this year in the 4th quarter?  i am guessing at least a dozen. And, even if you might think that losing this year is OK as the team rebuilds they have lost games in previous years when they could not rebound late in the game and are likely to lose more games in the future for the same reason.


    About losing games where we were even or ahead in 3rd Qtr, this team reminds me of a fighter who is to throw a fight but he is told to make a good show of it for awhile and we certainly have as very infrequently do we appear blown out at the half. (Yup, I know this has nothing to do with being outrebounded but as we are not an old team, it is uncanny we seem to fall apart perhaps being fatigued in the last Qtr.)

     
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    yep...the celts have been getting shellaced on the boards andthough this season sully is big and stevens sends guys crashing

    but a 7 footer who can get double doubles would be great.  I keep asking WHEN the last time was we had a center and had been forgetting about Perk....funny how I would foget about Perk...he did help bring a championship here....sorry about that perk

     



    I sincerely believe we would have won Game 7 vs hated Lakers in 2010 had Perk not gone down in Game 6. But Perk still was not a prolific rebounder or scorer but a Banger and good defender. He was not needed to score, nor was Rondo either, as we had PP, RA & KG to get us 60 points per game. But now,and I know this is not about Rondo, but it would be better to have a scorer like a Paul, Rose & Westbrook ( when healthy), Nash (when younger) to give us 20 points per game and also a prolific rebounder and scorer to also give us 20 +/15 Rebs per game because, again, we don't have PP, KG & RA but Bass, Green & Wallace and there won't be a dry eyein my house to see them gone but keep Sully and Oly(and hope he develops).

     


    Lakers had it 3 years ago with Kobe giving them 20-30 points and then Gasol & Bynum giving them another 20 or so points and 15 rebounds so the other mediocre shooters could have 2nd chance shots.

     
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    well 7'0'' double,double guy's don't grow on tree's...

    we can get free agents

    pau gasol

    spencre hawes

    marcin gortat

    chris kaman

    or we could draft...

    willie cauley-stein

    joel embiid

    that is all that is out there...

     

    next years draft maybe you have jahlil okafor?

     
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    I'll pass on the free agents because they are old(er).  I'll take Cauley-Stein out of college.  Obviously Embiid has that crazy "upside".

    I'm gonna make a prediction.  Celtics pick Willie Cauley Stein in June.

     
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    In response to rameakap's comment:

    Cauley-Stein has the potential to be another Fab Melo. No thanks. I think he'll be better than Melo, a decent rebounder and shot blocker on defense who will take a long time, if at all, to develop on offense.



    i don't want that...with our 2nd 1st round pick we gotta draft the best player avil...not need but best player.

     
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    I dont get the infatuation with Gordon hayward.

    personally i think he's crap.

    classic example of a great player on a bad team.

    if we wanna get good soon he's not the answer at the 2 and will be way overpaid if he's our bench player. some team would drop $$ on him

     
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