Murphy "torn" between Celtics and Heat

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    Murphy "torn" between Celtics and Heat

    Well let's hear your pitch to Murphy if you were Ainge. Riley is very influential.

    Troy, this is Doc and Danny on the conference call. We have beat the Heat 3 times already. We will not talk about the Heat or why you shouldn't go there, we'll talk about us but just know we already beat them 3 times. We were in the Finals last year and are better this year. He would most likely be coming off the bench with BBD since he has more skills than Krstic. Our staple is defense and defense is desire and want too. If you want to rebuild your rep, this is the place to come. You will get open looks and fit well into our plans for the next several years. We see you as a Sheed Wallace type but with better judgment when it comes to shooting 3s. We need your scoring off the bench. I'm going to conference in KG, PP, RA and Shaq. By the way, how are you going to explain to your Irish family that you turned down the Celtics?? Hopefully you choose us but if not, good luck and we'll see you in the playoffs.
     
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    Hey Bias, we both posted basically on the same topic at about the same time. I'm of the mindset that Murphy will go to South Beach for more playing time. 
     
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    That's fine let him go. He'll feel bad when he loses to the C's. THe Heat can't be us with or without Murphy. If he wants to play for a TEAM the C's is the place to go. If he wants to stand in the corner and play 30 mins and take 8 shots, let him go to the Heat.
     
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    Cmon Danny.  We need another big.
     
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    no brainer --- murphy is not stupid.
    his term with celtics is short and he has a long term with miami.

    so if you are murphy, which way you should go?
     
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    Does Murphy want to play center?  Bosh doesn't either!!!

    PA
     
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    Murphy is going to want another contract for at least 2 or 3 years with decent money.  The only way to get that is playing time and to show people he still has it.   Guess where he'll get more playing time?   Miami.

    On the flip side, our argument is that on the Celtics, EVERYONE gets to play the game.  We count on all players to step up.  Paul, Ray, Rondo, and Garnett count on their teammates for points and the ball is shared with everyone.  And, since our players are a little older, we want to rest them more and give more minutes to the second team.  Look at how good they've made BBD look.  On the Heat, however, Lebron and Wade make everyone else irrelevant.  They dominate the ball and your only role is as spot up shooter when they have no shot.   We can make you look better in the minute you get here.  There, you'll play behind Bosh and when you're in, you won't get as many looks - only desperation shots.

    Last pitch they'll make is:  This is a championship team.  The team is built to win now and we're better on being in the finals and winning it all.  Look at how many others predict we'll be there.   You'll have a better chance of winning a championship here.

    Personally, I think he goes to the Heat thinking he'll get more minutes and he won't realize just how much Lebron and Wade dominate the ball until he's there.
     
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    I don't get why you guys think he is just here for the short term.  Suppose we can't resign BBD?  Suppose he likes it here?  Suppose no one offers him more than the MLE, which is all either MIA or BOS to offer him under the current CBA.  IF he wants to showcase his skills (something else I don't get - he hasn't played since Jan 7), why not go to a TEAM where defense and ball movement are the words of the day?  Why go, as Bias said, "stand around in the corner" in MIA.  If he is good, he will play here, if not, he'll be like Wafer.

    He would actually have to PLAY in MIA, whereas here, he could play his way into shape, and be ready for the playoffs.  Then, someone not named MIA or BOS could throw more money his way.......and he'd be gone anyway.

    I don't know what the guy will do, but that should NOT be the motivation for choosing them over us!
     
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    Thats really the problem going to the Heat.  Murphy wont touch the ball unless its a rebound... then he better give it up to Lebron but fast!!

    I expect his scoring to be sub 10 ppg, which means any big contract hopes are probably a dream.
     
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    Based on the comments on this thread, objectively it sounds like Murphy will go to Miami.  Now what?  DA had to have known this was a possibility,  why did he clear all those other roster spots if Murphy was it?  There must be an alternative or Ainge will have a tough time explaining his actions.
     
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    why would anyone choose boston over miami!!!!
     
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    In Response to Re: Murphy "torn" between Celtics and Heat:
    [QUOTE]Based on the comments on this thread, objectively it sounds like Murphy will go to Miami.  Now what?  DA had to have known this was a possibility,  why did he clear all those other roster spots if Murphy was it?  There must be an alternative or Ainge will have a tough time explaining his actions.
    Posted by concord27[/QUOTE]

    If Murphy ends up in Miami it's a case of Ainge gambled and lost. 

    How could Ainge convince Murphy he's going to get playing time with the Celts if the Celts have Shaq, Krstic, JO, and Erden as Centers and KG, Baby, and Green as the PFs. Ainge had to be convincing, he used the trade of Erden to entice Murphy. Unfortunately the Heat came into the picture. 
     
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    Good point PACelt.  Murphy is a stretch power forward.  He is by no means a center.  He will relieve Bosh and we all know he won't get much time doing that on a consistent basis.  He will be told to go stand in the corner and wait for a spot up jumper, IF THE BALLS COMES TO HIM.

    In Boston, he will be a part of a team and, in my opinion, he will get extended minutes as he's integrated into the team concept.  The Celtics have an extremely favorable next 8 games that would serve as a perfect stretch to integrate new players.  It's a stretch against the not-so-great teams that will provide the other players a great opportunity to get some minutes and still not be as challenged as they would against the top tiered teams.

    And finally, if getting a ring is the ultimate goal, I'd think Murphy would choose Boston.
     
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    In Response to Re: Murphy "torn" between Celtics and Heat:
    [QUOTE]Based on the comments on this thread, objectively it sounds like Murphy will go to Miami.  Now what?  DA had to have known this was a possibility,  why did he clear all those other roster spots if Murphy was it?  There must be an alternative or Ainge will have a tough time explaining his actions.
    Posted by concord27[/QUOTE]

    Some great plan huh?  It will be very sad if all we end up with is Brewer. A player cut from another playoff team.  Please be someone more than a specialist.  Another non shooter?  Please no.
     
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    Murphy Brown anyone?
     
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    Riley's a helluva salesman. I'm sure he will press Murphy hard.

    I'm sort of ambivalent about Murphy. If we get Jermaine O'Neal healthy, I think we will be fine in any case. Leon Powe can also provide a lot of the toughness we are looking for inside. Cleveland didn't use him properly, and he knows the Celtics' system and core guys. So I think DA should sign him now.
     
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    [QUOTE]That's fine let him go. He'll feel bad when he loses to the C's. THe Heat can't be us with or without Murphy. If he wants to play for a TEAM the C's is the place to go. If he wants to stand in the corner and play 30 mins and take 8 shots, let him go to the Heat.

    Posted by BiasLewis[/QUOTE]

    haa good one..I agree with you...

     
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    Big Baby needs to play better if we are not getting Murphy...he, BBD, played like crap last nite and has been playing like that for the past I dont know how many games...
     
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    Why will Murphy take Bosh's minutes?  Have we forgotten about Udonis Haslem, who is coming back from injury.  IF he doesn't, then he should go to MIA, but if Haslem does come back, there are fewer mins for Murphy at PF in MIA, as Bosh usually plays about 38-40 MPG.
     
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    He's going south.

    Just a hunch.
     
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    I personally don't like him that much anyway.  He's a power forward, not a center.  We've got plenty of pf's.  We need a center that's reliable, and it's a little scary not having anything of a 3rd string pg.  Guess it's good that bradley is getting some run at this time.
     
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    Torn between 2 lovers, feelin' like a fool?
     
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    I wouldn't buy a toothpick from Pat Riley.   Used car salesman if there ever was one.
     
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    In Response to Re: Murphy "torn" between Celtics and Heat:
    [QUOTE]Good point PACelt.  Murphy is a stretch power forward.  He is by no means a center.  He will relieve Bosh and we all know he won't get much time doing that on a consistent basis.  He will be told to go stand in the corner and wait for a spot up jumper, IF THE BALLS COMES TO HIM. In Boston, he will be a part of a team and, in my opinion, he will get extended minutes as he's integrated into the team concept.  The Celtics have an extremely favorable next 8 games that would serve as a perfect stretch to integrate new players.  It's a stretch against the not-so-great teams that will provide the other players a great opportunity to get some minutes and still not be as challenged as they would against the top tiered teams. And finally, if getting a ring is the ultimate goal, I'd think Murphy would choose Boston.
    Posted by Petey62[/QUOTE]


    Yes, Petey, if you read my post, you and I agree on the LOGIC of Murphy coming here.  Unfortunately, its about the perception he has, not the logic.  If he's told he can play WITH Bosh on the court and he'll be critical to them (promises, promises, promises) and then he looks at living in Miami vs coming to Boston - he may be easily swayed.   Riley will sell the glamour of playing with the highly visible Heat and will make many promises that won't be kept.

    I can see Murphy and his agent being sold on Miami.  I have never been a big Murphy fan so if he chooses Miami - so be it.  I don't think its a big loss at all, myself.   I could take a D-leaguer + Shaq and JON being healthy.   Its Shaq and JON's health that will determine our championship hopes, I believe (especially Shaq's health and willingness to play D).
     
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    Murphy, fair skin lad, stay out of the sun kid, come to Boston, the land of your ancestors and have a pint of Guinness...
     
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