Re: New "NBA" Rebuild Plan - thinking ahead of 2012
posted at 5/21/2011 4:21 PM EDT
In Response to Re: New "NBA" Rebuild Plan - thinking ahead of 2012
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: New "NBA" Rebuild Plan - thinking ahead of 2012 : Red Auerbach had offers for Kevin McHale but he turned it down because of sentimental value. Even if the Celts get Chris Kaman or Varejao they would not be defending Wade, Lebron, or Melo. If the Celts would face the Knicks and the Heat again next season Ray and Pierce would be overmatched again. Our Big 3 just got old, the young guys are taking over, it's part of NBA life. They had their chance in 2010 when Game 7 was there for the taking.
Posted by Fiercest34[/QUOTE]
Yes the offer for McHale was Schrempf and a 1st rd pick around 20 and Red traded Ainge instead for Joe Kleine and Ed Pinckney.
The only way you can compare that to what I am saying is if those two players turned into Kaman/Varejao talents and then the Mavs BOUGHT OUT Ainge. and he isn't even one of th eold big 3. He is like trading Baby, DWest or Krstic.
Kaman/Varejao now is like adding Bill Laimbeer and michale Cage back then. a good shooting 15-8 big guy and a defensive minded 9-9 PF-C.
Baron Davis and Rondo would be like havoing drafted Tim Hardaway and being gifted a tough vet like say Fat Lever. (Hardaway shoots like Baron and is young, quick and starts like Rondo, Lever is a tall PG like Baron but a defensive rebounder like Rondo).
We'd be getting a bench basically for free w/ my above scenario.
In 1991 and 1992 I saw Celtic teams that were the neck and neck with the Bulls when Larry Bird was able to contribute. I have the OT win over chicago on DVD. They went into the 2nd rd 2 years ina row and ran out of gas b/c of health to the big 3 and a supporting cast too young and too weak.
The Celtics IDIOTICALLY played Bird 34-37 mins a game whenever he deemed himself healthy enough to hit the court. His and McHale's injuries were far more serious than those KG have had. and PP and Ray have both been healthy. I am saying to create a massively deep bench and limit the mins of the big 3 all season.
If you took Pinckney, Kleine, John Bagley and Michael smith off the 1991-92 Celtics and put Cage, Laimbeer (pretending we didn't hate him), Fat Lever and Tim Hardaway on it... and the East gets A LOT harder for Chicago to win.
All 3 were all-stars in 2011. They have done nothing this past season but show that they can still contribute only in reduced roles. That had they been surrounded by more talent they'd have beaten Miami.
Green will guard Melo/LBJ and deng more than PP next year. But Paul did fine on those guys at times... next year he'd just be even more rested.
Who is goign to guard Kaman and Rondo on NY and Miami? Who has a bench that can compare to Delonte, Baron Davis, Pierce, Varejao and Jermaine O'Neal???
Dwight Howard is VERY unlikely to come here in my opinion. Form an incredibly deep talented team and shoot for 2014 as the year to have max money.