OH OH RONDO IS A GONER! will test free agency, not doing a deal in advance!

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    trade him BEFORE his last year and BEFORE anyone realizes that he can't lead a team.  that's all.  or else you will get N O T H I N G for precious rajon

     
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       The problem is Rondo wants max money and the Celts can pay more than anyone.  The other problem is he is a true near all-star and his money might bring in a real all-star.

     
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    The longer DA waits, the more Rongdo sabotages his own value. Without 2-3 HOFers on his team, he is forced to be someone he isnt capable of being, THE MAN. yeah he has a good handle and vision, BUT only as good as the guys he's passing to. We all saw and want to believe the illusion that his time with 3 of the best who ever played made him appear to be. He may be the most over rated player to wear the C's uniform. Simply a beneficiary of the perfect situation for his skill set, a dribble passer, with no real consistant shooting ability from the stripe or the floor But with 3 great options to dish it to. HOFers! All of them. Face it, we are seeing an average player who has flashes of acrobatic, intoxicating plays. He's NEVER been a great player, just a great ROLE PLAYER. 

     
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    The longer DA waits, the more Rongdo sabotages his own value. Without 2-3 HOFers on his team, he is forced to be someone he isnt capable of being, THE MAN. yeah he has a good handle and vision, BUT only aa foos as the guys he's passing to. We all saw and want to believe the illusion that his time with 3 of the best who ever played made him appear to be. He may be the most oner rated player to wear the C's uniform. Simply a beneficiary of the perfect situation for his skill set, a dribble passer, with no real consisrant shooting ability from the stripe or the floor. Face it, we are seeing an acerage player who has flashes of acrobatic, intoxicating plays. He's NEVER been a great player, just a great ROLE PLAYER. 




    While I understand your point, I disagree he's "average".  And I question very much the over-rated wording.  If he's a great "role" player, how can he be over-rated?

    Antoine was over-rated.........Charles Bradley, Michael Smith, Marcus Banks,  the list goes on.

    Don't want to start an argument, but a good role player, IMO, is not average.  Phil Pressey is average....

     
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    Well checked today and he is not a goner yet. Better luck tommorow. 

     
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    In response to RallyC's comment:

    The longer DA waits, the more Rongdo sabotages his own value. Without 2-3 HOFers on his team, he is forced to be someone he isnt capable of being, THE MAN. yeah he has a good handle and vision, BUT only aa foos as the guys he's passing to. We all saw and want to believe the illusion that his time with 3 of the best who ever played made him appear to be. He may be the most oner rated player to wear the C's uniform. Simply a beneficiary of the perfect situation for his skill set, a dribble passer, with no real consisrant shooting ability from the stripe or the floor. Face it, we are seeing an acerage player who has flashes of acrobatic, intoxicating plays. He's NEVER been a great player, just a great ROLE PLAYER. 



    Funny how the media keeps on suggesting that, Rondo's rusty, and given more minutes his game will slowly morph back into it's pre-injury form.  Rondo just needs more playing time, they say.  It takes time to recover from these kinds of injuries- say them.

     

    I say don't hold your breath.

     

    Rondo's never been able to shoote.  He's a hard-nosed hustle player.  He's one of those guys that plays with a certain reckless abandon, that good things happen when he's on the floor.  But he's not Derrick Rose.  He's not going to suddenly regain a form that he never had in the first place. 

     

    Put onto a rebuilding team, he's got zero value.  Nobody's killing themselves over loose balls right now.  No one's worried about not making the playoffs, or homecourt advantage.  No one's going to take a charge from Lebron.

     

    I think naming him Captain and putting him on the first train out of North Station would be the nicest thing you could do for him.  Letting him linger on here, while waiting for something to happen that's never gonna happen?  The situation here went from ideal to worst-case-scenario. 

     

    So if someone sends us a low-ball offer for him, I wouldn't expect him to take exception.  Send him somewhere that already has a leader.  Send him somewhere we he can make his around the back dribble look fancy again.  A new home that could use an unselfish PG with a flare for making big hustle plays.

     

    For his sake the sooner the better. 

     

     
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    The longer DA waits, the more Rongdo sabotages his own value. Without 2-3 HOFers on his team, he is forced to be someone he isnt capable of being, THE MAN. yeah he has a good handle and vision, BUT only aa foos as the guys he's passing to. We all saw and want to believe the illusion that his time with 3 of the best who ever played made him appear to be. He may be the most oner rated player to wear the C's uniform. Simply a beneficiary of the perfect situation for his skill set, a dribble passer, with no real consisrant shooting ability from the stripe or the floor. Face it, we are seeing an acerage player who has flashes of acrobatic, intoxicating plays. He's NEVER been a great player, just a great ROLE PLAYER. 




    While I understand your point, I disagree he's "average".  And I question very much the over-rated wording.  If he's a great "role" player, how can he be over-rated?

    Antoine was over-rated.........Charles Bradley, Michael Smith, Marcus Banks,  the list goes on.

    Don't want to start an argument, but a good role player, IMO, is not average.  Phil Pressey is average....




    Several here hail this guy as a top 5 PG. Not even close! Top 5 PG's Hit FTs at a high % AND are real threats outside. Rongdo is none of that. He is a great complement to 3 GOFers who can make up for his deficiencies. All-star? NEVER AGAIN. now post ACL and no HOFers, he's exposed as an average NBA guard with a fortunate past. Unliad him ASAP. 

     
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    The longer DA waits, the more Rongdo sabotages his own value. Without 2-3 HOFers on his team, he is forced to be someone he isnt capable of being, THE MAN. yeah he has a good handle and vision, BUT only aa foos as the guys he's passing to. We all saw and want to believe the illusion that his time with 3 of the best who ever played made him appear to be. He may be the most oner rated player to wear the C's uniform. Simply a beneficiary of the perfect situation for his skill set, a dribble passer, with no real consisrant shooting ability from the stripe or the floor. Face it, we are seeing an acerage player who has flashes of acrobatic, intoxicating plays. He's NEVER been a great player, just a great ROLE PLAYER. 




    While I understand your point, I disagree he's "average".  And I question very much the over-rated wording.  If he's a great "role" player, how can he be over-rated?

    Antoine was over-rated.........Charles Bradley, Michael Smith, Marcus Banks,  the list goes on.

    Don't want to start an argument, but a good role player, IMO, is not average.  Phil Pressey is average....




    Several here hail this guy as a top 5 PG. Not even close! Top 5 PG's Hit FTs at a high % AND are real threats outside. Rongdo is none of that. He is a great complement to 3 GOFers who can make up for his deficiencies. All-star? NEVER AGAIN. now post ACL and no HOFers, he's exposed as an average NBA guard with a fortunate past. Unliad him ASAP. 




    He's not top 5.....maybe not top 10.  Also not average.  He's been exposed for his defeciencies as a player.  Average players don't start or EVER make the AS team.

     
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    I think he's always been below average.  He's never been able to score.  When they created The Big 3 it was the perfect situation for him.  He won the lottery the day he was given the keys to the car- when Allen, Garnett, and Pierce were united.

     

    Watching the C's now, I feel like something bad is going to happen whenever Rondo has the ball.  Like it's too much pressure for him, to have responsiblity other than passing.  I'm worried that everyday he remains a Celtic his value decreases more and more.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    No.  No more Captain.  Too many bricks.  He's white now, too.  Too many lay-ups.

     
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    "Rondo sucks."  -Bob Cousy

     
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    You are making assumptions without facts.  Ainge is turned down because they can only extend 2 years right now.  At the end of the season, RR can be extended 3 years.  It is possible that RR wants the max for 4 years but it could also be that he would like 3 years instead of 2.  We don't know, to assume that he definitely wants max is premature.

     
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    In response to MitchUnderpants' comment:

    "Rondo sucks."  -Bob Cousy




    You are arguing with a guy who's not a Celtics fan.  He thought Ramon Sessions would average double digit assists for the lakers.  He thought DH would stay in LA forever.  He thinks koME walks on water.

    He has claimed to be a Pacers fan, said his brother lives in NH, and had us all believe he left the board when DH left for HOU because his daughter was cutting herself.

    He is a useless troll that I have on ignore..........but do what you want!!

    Ever hear of mtrax/Tommy/MarkfromCT?..............that's him!

     
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    The longer DA waits, the more Rongdo sabotages his own value. Without 2-3 HOFers on his team, he is forced to be someone he isnt capable of being, THE MAN. yeah he has a good handle and vision, BUT only aa foos as the guys he's passing to. We all saw and want to believe the illusion that his time with 3 of the best who ever played made him appear to be. He may be the most oner rated player to wear the C's uniform. Simply a beneficiary of the perfect situation for his skill set, a dribble passer, with no real consisrant shooting ability from the stripe or the floor. Face it, we are seeing an acerage player who has flashes of acrobatic, intoxicating plays. He's NEVER been a great player, just a great ROLE PLAYER. 




    While I understand your point, I disagree he's "average".  And I question very much the over-rated wording.  If he's a great "role" player, how can he be over-rated?

    Antoine was over-rated.........Charles Bradley, Michael Smith, Marcus Banks,  the list goes on.

    Don't want to start an argument, but a good role player, IMO, is not average.  Phil Pressey is average....




    Several here hail this guy as a top 5 PG. Not even close! Top 5 PG's Hit FTs at a high % AND are real threats outside. Rongdo is none of that. He is a great complement to 3 GOFers who can make up for his deficiencies. All-star? NEVER AGAIN. now post ACL and no HOFers, he's exposed as an average NBA guard with a fortunate past. Unliad him ASAP. 



    Open seasson for Rondo haters.They are allover.

     

     
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    I'm not a Rondo hater (great post btw, Bin Laden) I just think he's in a bad situation right now.  I can't see how his value's going to improve anytime soon, either.  Making a strong case to trade him before things get worse.

     

    Of course, if you plug Rondo into the right line-up onto the right team?  Sure, I could see him filling up the stat book again, becoming a fan favorite.  But a TRUE pg has the ability to knock down open shots.  Rondo belongs on a team like Miami.  <- gawd I'd hate to see that happen. 

     
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    Well checked today and he is not a goner yet. Better luck tommorow. 



    is he still the captain?



    He is :) 

     
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    Open seasson for Rondo haters.They are allover.

     

    herd mentality type situation

     
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    Open seasson for Rondo haters.They are allover.

     

    herd mentality type situation



    Wrong.  More and more knowlegeable basketball fans on here are accepting the reality of Rondo's limitations and the needs of this Celtics TEAM.  

    Its lame to call anybody a hater who expresses an opinion, about any player, while making a case about why keeping or trading such player would benefit the team...

    If I'm a Rondo hater, then YOU are a Celtics hater.  Its not about Rondo.... its about the team.

     

     
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    Wrong.  More and more knowlegeable basketball fans on here are accepting the reality of Rondo's limitations and the needs of this Celtics TEAM.  

    Its lame to call anybody a hater who expresses an opinion, about any player, while making a case about why keeping or trading such player would benefit the team...

    If I'm a Rondo hater, then YOU are a Celtics hater.  Its not about Rondo.... its about the team.

     



     
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    In response to BaileyPowe's comment:

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    Wrong.  More and more knowlegeable basketball fans on here are accepting the reality of Rondo's limitations and the needs of this Celtics TEAM.  

    Its lame to call anybody a hater who expresses an opinion, about any player, while making a case about why keeping or trading such player would benefit the team...

    If I'm a Rondo hater, then YOU are a Celtics hater.  Its not about Rondo.... its about the team.

     





    I agree BaileyPowe. I assume everybody who chats on this site watches the Celts nightly and it sure looks to me like "the majority" would like to see him be traded. I find it hard to believe that the majority of people can be wrong and unless there are folks who just hate Rondo because he is Rondo, I would think they have the Celtics TEAM's best interest at heart. Now, I know there are some on here who think they are always correct no matter what their opinion is but if they were that smart, I am sure they would already be working for the Celts or another NBA Team. I do not HATE Rondo but I do dislike his style of play and just do not believe he is a Premier player and worthy of a Max Deal or anywhere near it. 

     
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    i don't know, elmo. i guess rondo is an acquired taste and just plain not for everybody. i like him. i'm not concerned with his shooting. his FTs bother me. even more, and like so many, i don't care for all the ball pounding and he seems to be doing that as much as ever. seems like stevens ought to be coaching him away from that and i don't particularly get why he's not. anywho...time will tell. just not this season.

     
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