Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title
posted at 8/2/2012 12:13 PM EDT
- jtkl
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With only ten teams in the league in the 60s, the Lakers couldn't win a title.
They made to the finals in 1959 and Lost to the Celtics.
They proudly made it again in 1962 and lost to the Celtics.
The Joyfuly arrived in 1963 for another chance... and lost to the Celtics.
Determined to change the outcome they fought their way back in 1965 and lost to the Celtics.
Taking pride in being number two they returned for a butt whooping at the hands of the Celtics in 1966
in 1968 the were proud to take the Celtics to seven games But lost to the Celtics.
in 1969 perfecting the "we're number two!" chant they lost to the Celtics again.
Yes it is easier to win a title with ten teams in the league sadly for the Lakers the Celtics were one of those teams.
Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title
posted at 8/2/2012 12:20 PM EDT
That's why with pride I say we're number two!. Their is no shame in losing to the Celtics you guys are the greatest franchise in sports!
Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title
posted at 8/2/2012 1:17 PM EDT
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Thanks Rico. it's nice to see a classy laker fan for a change. I know it has to be somewhat hard to admit that with only ten teams in the league you guys couldn't win. But in fairness you faced the greatest dynasty in the history of the game.
Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title
posted at 8/2/2012 2:55 PM EDT
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Thanks Rico. it's nice to see a classy laker fan for a change. I know it has to be somewhat hard to admit that with only ten teams in the league you guys couldn't win. But in fairness you faced the greatest dynasty in the history of the game.
Posted by jtkl
But he is not a Laker fan
Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title
posted at 8/2/2012 6:19 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title : He is as much a lakers fan as TommyDrools is a Celtics fan!!
Posted by hedleylamarr
They are probably one and the same
Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title
posted at 8/2/2012 9:10 PM EDT
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Shws how great Bill and Red were, and how they were so competitive they never took a season off trying to stay on top
LA had the 2nd and 3rd best player in almost all of those series (Elgin/West) but lacked C's depth, anchor in the middle and brain on the bench. When they finally did get that monster Center they still choked, at home, in a game 7 they put balloons in the ceiling for...
hahaha
Call it 40-50 years ago all you want... LA was there every year, went 0-7 and had a top 12 and top 25 all-time player 6 of the times (only time it was just Elgin it was in Minny) and added a top 5 player all-time for one of the losses.
Say what you want about it being a 10 team league... LA defined choking more than any NBA team in league history and has to claim titles from the pre-shot clock era that they STOLE from the city of Minneapolis just to get within 1 title of the greatest franchise of all time.
Your Boston Celtics - /> 17-16
Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title
posted at 8/2/2012 11:28 PM EDT
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How can the Lakers steal their own titles?
Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title
posted at 8/2/2012 11:32 PM EDT
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How can the Lakers steal their own titles?
Posted by dirty52
It was a city stealing them from another city
They should have remained waiting for the Wolves
Research the disrespect the Lakers showed the Minny organization, players, titles, etc. over the years and you will come back appalled with the franchise that only decided decades later to shove all 5 MN title years onto ONE banner in their ceilling and only b/c it got them closer to Boston.
Sure, it is an 'official' stat, but they are cheap and shameful in the eyes of knowledgable fans of the game and its history
Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title
posted at 8/3/2012 2:14 AM EDT
All I know is that the Celtics lost 3-2 series lead 3 times in the last 3 years. Now that is the ultimate in choking. They were supposed to win many titles with 3 HOF, the Big 3 turned out to be the Big Thud. That's all I know, 3-2 leads and disaster.
Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title
posted at 8/3/2012 5:35 AM EDT
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How did Los Angeles steal from Minneapolis? Minneapolis did not own the Lakers neither does Los Angeles own the Lakers
The Laker organization won the championship not the city
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posted at 8/5/2012 11:22 AM EDT
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How did Los Angeles steal from Minneapolis? Minneapolis did not own the Lakers neither does Los Angeles own the Lakers The Laker organization won the championship not the city
Posted by dirty52
championships are won by cities not names. I don't like teams switching towns and keeping the name of the prior city. IMO Oklahoma City has absolutely nothing to do with Seattle. I know their names are not the same. Does Seattles championship belong to Oklahoma City?
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Dallas Mavericks |
| 2009-10 | Los Angeles Lakers | Boston Celtics | 4-3 | Lebron James
Cleveland Cavaliers | Kobe Bryant
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| 2008-09 | Los Angeles Lakers | Orlando Magic | 4-1 | Lebron James
Cleveland Cavaliers | Kobe Bryant
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| 2007-08 | Boston Celtics | Los Angeles Lakers | 4-2 | Kobe Bryant
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| 2004-05 | San Antonio Spurs | Detroit Pistons | 4-3 | Steve Nash
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San Antonio |
| 2003-04 | Detroit Pistons | Los Angeles Lakers | 4-1 | Kevin Garnett
Minnesota | Chauncey Billups
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| 2002-03 | San Antonio Spurs | New Jersey Nets | 4-2 | Tim Duncan
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| 2001-02 | Los Angeles Lakers | New Jersey Nets | 4-0 | Tim Duncan
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| 1998-99 | San Antonio Spurs | New York Knicks | 4-1 | Karl Malone
Utah | Tim Duncan
San Antonio |
| 1997-98 | Chicago Bulls | Utah Jazz | 4-2 | Michael Jordan
Chicago | Michael Jordan
Chicago |
| 1996-97 | Chicago Bulls | Utah Jazz | 4-2 | Karl Malone
Utah | Michael Jordan
Chicago |
| 1995-96 | Chicago Bulls | Seattle SuperSonics | 4-2 | Michael Jordan
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| 1994-95 | Houston Rockets | Orlando Magic | 4-0 | David Robinson
San Antonio | Hakeem Olajuwon
Houston |
| 1993-94 | Houston Rockets | New York Knicks | 4-3 | Hakeem Olajuwon
Houston | Hakeem Olajuwon
Houston |
| 1992-93 | Chicago Bulls | Phoenix Suns | 4-2 | Charles Barkley
Phoenix | Michael Jordan
Chicago |
| 1991-92 | Chicago Bulls | Portland Trail Blazers | 4-2 | Michael Jordan
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Chicago |
| 1990-91 | Chicago Bulls | Los Angeles Lakers | 4-1 | Michael Jordan
Chicago | Michael Jordan
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| 1989-90 | Detroit Pistons | Portland Trail Blazers | 4-1 | Magic Johnson
Los Angeles Lakers | Isiah Thomas
Detroit |
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Los Angeles Lakers | Joe Dumars
Detroit |
| 1987-88 | Los Angeles Lakers | Detroit Pistons | 4-3 | Michael Jordan
Chicago | James Worthy
Los Angeles |
| 1986-87 | Los Angeles Lakers | Boston Celtics | 4-2 | Magic Johnson
Los Angeles Lakers | Magic Johnson
Los Angeles |
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Boston |
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Boston |
| 1982-83 | Philadelphia 76ers | Los Angeles Lakers | 4-0 | Moses Malone
Philadelphia | Moses Malone
Philadelphia |
| 1981-82 | Los Angeles Lakers | Philadelphia 76ers | 4-2 | Moses Malone
Houston | Magic Johnson
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| 1980-81 | Boston Celtics | Houston Rockets | 4-2 | Julius Erving
Philadelphia | Cedric Maxwell
Boston |
| 1979-80 | Los Angeles Lakers | Philadelphia 76ers | 4-2 | K. Abdul-Jabbar
Los Angeles | Magic Johnson
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| 1978-79 | Seattle SuperSonics | Washington Bullets | 4-1 | Moses Malone
Houston | Dennis Johnson
Seattle |
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Portland | Wes Unseld
Washington |
| 1976-77 | Portland Trail Blazers | Philadelphia 76ers | 4-2 | K. Abdul-Jabbar
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Boston |
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Buffalo | Rick Barry
Golden State |
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Boston |
| 1972-73 | New York Knicks | Los Angeles Lakers | 4-1 | Dave Cowens
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New York |
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| 1970-71 | Milwaukee Bucks | Baltimore Bullets | 4-0 | Lew Alcindor
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| 1966-67 | Philadelphia 76ers | San Francisco Warriors | 4-2 | Wilt Chamberlain
Philadelphia | - |
| 1965-66 | Boston Celtics | Los Angeles Lakers | 4-3 | Wilt Chamberlain
Philadelphia | - |
| 1964-65 | Boston Celtics | Los Angeles Lakers | 4-1 | Bill Russell
Boston | - |
| 1963-64 | Boston Celtics | San Francisco Warriors | 4-1 | Oscar Robertson
Cincinnati | - |
| 1962-63 | Boston Celtics | Los Angeles Lakers | 4-2 | Bill Russell
Boston | - |
| 1961-62 | Boston Celtics | Los Angeles Lakers | 4-3 | Bill Russell
Boston | - |
| 1960-61 | Boston Celtics | St. Louis Hawks | 4-1 | Bill Russell
Boston | - |
| 1959-60 | Boston Celtics | St. Louis Hawks | 4-3 | Wilt Chamberlain
Philadelphia | - |
| 1958-59 | Boston Celtics | Minneapolis Lakers | 4-0 | Bob Pettit
St. Louis | - |
| 1957-58 | St. Louis Hawks | Boston Celtics | 4-2 | Bill Russell
Boston | - |
| 1956-57 | Boston Celtics | St. Louis Hawks | 4-3 | Bob Cousy
Boston | - |
| 1955-56 | Philadelphia Warriors | Fort Wayne Pistons | 4-1 | Bob Pettit
St. Louis | - |
| 1954-55 | Syracuse Nationals | Fort Wayne Pistons | 4-3 | - | - |
| 1953-54 | Minneapolis Lakers | Syracuse Nationals | 4-3 | - | - |
| 1952-53 | Minneapolis Lakers | New York Knicks | 4-1 | - | - |
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Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title
posted at 8/5/2012 11:26 AM EDT
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Two of the teams the Minnie teams beat were the Syracuse Nationals. Isn't this the team the Harlem Globetrotters beat on a regular basis?
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Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title
posted at 8/5/2012 11:40 AM EDT
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When a team moves from one city to another city, it is the same team. The 59-60 Minneaplois Lakers had many of the same players as the 60-61 LA Lakers. Are you saying that those players now were playing for a different organization because they relocated to another city? OKC Thunder are the same organization as the Seattle SuperSonics with the same ownership. Cities don't win championships or games, teams (organizations) do.
Posted by TommyRules
Organizations don't win championships, players do. Sorry I insulted your Laker team.
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Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title
posted at 8/5/2012 5:11 PM EDT
"
it's nice to see a classy laker fan for a change"
nope, he's a phony, a fake, a sockpuppet like Tommy Rules. I feel sorry for the no-lifers who pathetically try to maintain these accounts after they are exposed.
The Minneapolis Lakers titles in my view are legitimately attached to the Lakers franchise and are just as valid as the Celtics champsionships during that period. Therefore, any Laker fan who argues in favor of counting the Minny champsionships must also recognize the Celts legit titles during that period.
Therefore, the total championship count is Celtics 17, Lakers 16:
I don't see either team breaking that for a while.
However, for the Celts to stay in the lead we'll need some very savvy moves or miraculous draft picks as NBA player movement today favors warm weather urban locations.
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Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title
posted at 8/5/2012 7:03 PM EDT
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How did Los Angeles steal from Minneapolis? Minneapolis did not own the Lakers neither does Los Angeles own the Lakers The Laker organization won the championship not the city
Posted by dirty52
So.....if a team relocated to Seattle.......and Kevin Durant's team wins the NBA title, does Seattle now have TWO? Or does OKC have one?
Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title
posted at 8/5/2012 8:01 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title : So.....if a team relocated to Seattle.......and Kevin Durant's team wins the NBA title, does Seattle now have TWO? Or does OKC have one?
Posted by hedleylamarr
The Lakers are claiming they have 16 championships. But the rafters of Staples only have 12 Laker championship banners. Ha Ha
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Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title
posted at 8/5/2012 8:16 PM EDT
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Lets say the Celtics moved to Las Vegas and called themselves the Las Vegas Celtics. If they won a championship there, would that be the Celtics first championship?
Posted by TommyRules
YES!!
Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title
posted at 8/5/2012 11:38 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title : Tell that to the players and the owners. What a nimrod.
Posted by TommyRules
This is a personal attack, and has been reported as such to BDC!
Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title
posted at 8/6/2012 12:09 AM EDT
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You don't hear the OKC Thunder bragging about their 1979 championship in Seattle.
Even the Lakers don't have 5 banners for the Minneapolis championships.
As the saying goes, when TommyTrolls, TommyRolls!
HAHAHA
Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title
posted at 8/6/2012 12:19 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Only ten teams in league and L.A. couldn't win a title : YES!!
Posted by hedleylamarr
Actually they probably would not be able to use the Celtics name as David Stern will have the name stay in Boston
