In response to SeemsToMe's comment:
I hope it happens. Then follow that up with a Rondo for an established young rebounding center. That would be Happy Days for me.
Seems to me you should root for another team. One with players you appreciate.
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/12/2013 11:26 PM EST
In response to SeemsToMe's comment:
I hope it happens. Then follow that up with a Rondo for an established young rebounding center. That would be Happy Days for me.
Seems to me you should root for another team. One with players you appreciate.
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/13/2013 9:13 AM EST
If you trade PP one of the alltime celtic greats and our best player for, how long, a decade...
How can a franchise, the GM or the fans expect anything like respect from the players? How can we expect KG or Pierce to play for less if we trade them at the next deadline for a younger player?
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/13/2013 9:16 AM EST
Paul Pierce is not going anywhere. He's a Celtic for life.
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/13/2013 11:00 AM EST
In response to jrleftfoot's comment:
In response to SeemsToMe's comment:
I hope it happens. Then follow that up with a Rondo for an established young rebounding center. That would be Happy Days for me.
Seems to me you should root for another team. One with players you appreciate.
Clever response Jr. However,if management can and does trade popular players because they believe it will improve the team I see no harm in voicing my opinion on this matter. I have been a very loyal Celtic fan since 1950 and will mention as an example, 2 major Celtic trades. In 1956 Auerbach traded Hall OF FAMER Easy Ed MacCauley and draft pick Cliff Hagen for draft pick Bill Russell. Ainge in 2007 traded, along with others, Al Jefferson a very popular fan favorite,for Kevin Garnett. So much for team loyalty. And player loyalty went down the drain when Ray Allen bolted in 2012. So yes, even STARS get traded and sometimes CHAMPIONSHIPS result. Loyalties be damn-- Its all part of the game.
seems
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/13/2013 11:34 AM EST
Oh, sure. Trade away the best and most dependable scorer for another scorer who probably won't exceed Pierce's numbers or be any more help in a championship drive. Even a "6'11" plus", while attractive and needed, wouldn't produce the "final piece" especially if one of the current pieces is gone.
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/13/2013 1:13 PM EST
In response to Gasthoerer's comment:
If you trade PP one of the alltime celtic greats and our best player for, how long, a decade...
How can a franchise, the GM or the fans expect anything like respect from the players? How can we expect KG or Pierce to play for less if we trade them at the next deadline for a younger player?
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/13/2013 1:14 PM EST
In response to painter's comment:
Oh, sure. Trade away the best and most dependable scorer for another scorer who probably won't exceed Pierce's numbers or be any more help in a championship drive. Even a "6'11" plus", while attractive and needed, wouldn't produce the "final piece" especially if one of the current pieces is gone.
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/13/2013 2:10 PM EST
Every GM in the league would trade Pierce to get David Lee , this guy posting about Lee being a clubhouse cancer is crazy -as is his trade proposal
If Danny Ainge could trade Pierce for not only David Lee, but also Harrison Barnes AND a #1 pick ? .............that would be one of the greatest steals in Celtics history ,right up there with the Robert Parrish/Kevin McHale steal
It would be like when the Dallas Cowboys traded the just over the hill Hershal Walker and built the NFL Dynasty of the 1990's with all the draft picks (3 Super Bowls won because of the Hershal Walker trade)
I wonder if Golden State would even trade Bogut for Pierce straight up , think Ainge wouldn't bite on that one ? I do....
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/13/2013 3:53 PM EST
Pierce is as much a leader as KG is this year, and I don't say this lightly. The young guys need Pierce along with KG to show them how it's done. I've been a critic of Pierce throughout his whole carreer, but also honest about what he brings. Pierce is a bull, and without him the Celts have no chance.
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/13/2013 7:01 PM EST
Passfirst, that seems strange coming from you.
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/13/2013 8:09 PM EST
Bye Paul. It was nice knowin ya. Eternal thanks for 2008. If I ever see you out and about in Boston I will always buy you a drink. Maybe you can come back and do bad color commentary after you retire. But yeah, you're too old and slow and selfish to help this team win another banner. You'd be good off the bench but that's not gonna happen cause of your ego. So, go clog up someone else's offense. Go do the seven second iso gaffe in some other town.
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/13/2013 8:36 PM EST
In response to OneOnOne's comment:
Passfirst, that seems strange coming from you.
I know, but I'd like to think I've been fair about him while being a critic at the same time. I've appreciated the argument you guys have made on his behalf, and pretty sure I've aknowledged the points you all have made for his sake while complaining about him at times.
More important, he's been the anchor behind the scenes for this team this year. What he did in ATL at halftime last week. He's necessary for this teams success, and development going forward. Everything KG has to say to guys like Melo and LeBron only echos what Pierce will tell them too, and then back it up. Watching these two guys take on this new generation's superstars like they are not impressed has been a privilage. I remember when Pierce got stabbed 11 times and made it back for opening night, lost teeth in a game and kept playing. People pass over him around the league, but only he will walk up to Artest in the finals and give him the choke sign like Maxwell did during the 80's to Magic and not be afraid, or drain the game winning three over LeBron while telling him he's his you know what. He's the Truth.
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/13/2013 8:44 PM EST
Id be surprised if PP is traded but Danny willing to mess with chemistry, no problem (see Perk)
Maybe the right time is when we were playing like garbage... but now just seems the timing is bad unless we get a real steal.
Hope PP doesnt lose his game ala Ray Allen amidst the trade talk ( if real)... or Rondo doesnt pout for a couple months as he did with Perks move.
One thing I can say...I dont have much faith in DA's moves, generally speaking..
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/13/2013 9:28 PM EST
In response to DaCeltics' comment:
I think trading Pierce for anyone besides Kobe or Lebron is a mistake. He is Mr. Celtic for this generation. Even K.G. is not that.
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/13/2013 9:32 PM EST
In response to passfirst's comment:
In response to OneOnOne's comment:
Passfirst, that seems strange coming from you.
I know, but I'd like to think I've been fair about him while being a critic at the same time. I've appreciated the argument you guys have made on his behalf, and pretty sure I've aknowledged the points you all have made for his sake while complaining about him at times.
More important, he's been the anchor behind the scenes for this team this year. What he did in ATL at halftime last week. He's necessary for this teams success, and development going forward. Everything KG has to say to guys like Melo and LeBron only echos what Pierce will tell them too, and then back it up. Watching these two guys take on this new generation's superstars like they are not impressed has been a privilage. I remember when Pierce got stabbed 11 times and made it back for opening night, lost teeth in a game and kept playing. People pass over him around the league, but only he will walk up to Artest in the finals and give him the choke sign like Maxwell did during the 80's to Magic and not be afraid, or drain the game winning three over LeBron while telling him he's his you know what. He's the Truth.
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Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/14/2013 11:39 AM EST
In response to shines01's comment:
Bye Paul. It was nice knowin ya. Eternal thanks for 2008. If I ever see you out and about in Boston I will always buy you a drink. Maybe you can come back and do bad color commentary after you retire. But yeah, you're too old and slow and selfish to help this team win another banner. You'd be good off the bench but that's not gonna happen cause of your ego. So, go clog up someone else's offense. Go do the seven second iso gaffe in some other town.
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/14/2013 3:50 PM EST
I don't think these comments are necessary...........he is up there with some of the greats in our history. I don't want to "show him the door", but if he can be traded for a guy like Rudy Gay, which helps both teams going forward, then I think DA has to look at it. Otherwise, I hope he retires a Celtic!!
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Sorry hedley....never been a big Pierce fan. I don't want to show him the door either, but if we can get a scorer or a big in a deal that includes Pierce, then, by all means, say goodbye. We always note this is a business first. Been nice knowin ya. I lost respect for him after the Jamaal Tinsley incident which cost us a playoff series and it hasn't really come back since.
shines
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/14/2013 4:09 PM EST
In response to shines01's comment:
I don't think these comments are necessary...........he is up there with some of the greats in our history. I don't want to "show him the door", but if he can be traded for a guy like Rudy Gay, which helps both teams going forward, then I think DA has to look at it. Otherwise, I hope he retires a Celtic!!
shines
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That was 2005. In 2008, Pierce got redemption by leading the Celtics to a championship and won himself a Finals MVP trophy.
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/14/2013 5:38 PM EST
I lost respect for him after the Jamaal Tinsley incident which cost us a playoff series and it hasn't really come back since.
shines
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That was 2005. In 2008, Pierce got redemption by leading the Celtics to a championship and won himself a Finals MVP trophy.
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OK...I'l go along with that for now.
Here's the point: we need a legitimate center. I don't care where it comes from or how we get it but we need a 5 who can move his feet on both ends. Gortat still works for me.
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/14/2013 5:47 PM EST
The only problem I see with trading Pierce is that our team chemistry seems to be pretty good right now and I think everyone will agree that what little physical defensive presence we have and the only two offensive players with ice in their veins are Pierce and KG. If Pierce were traded I believe that KG would feel betrayed and would totally be like the team is a tuxedo and he is a brown pair of shoes. I think you could kiss KG goodbye and along with that any possibility of even vaguely competing for a championship this year.
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/14/2013 6:31 PM EST
I feel PP will either retire or be gone next year to play 1-2 more years. Sure, I'd like him to retire in Green but since he is from So. Cal. how about asking him if he'd like to play with the Clippers & we'd get Deandre Jordan and as much as I hate the Lakers, maybe Pau Gasol for PP. Then explore GS and I let him go for Lee. Doesn't solve our big man problem but I'd let him go for Curry. And if they wanted Rondo, I think Curry is better so goodbye RR.
And, of course, Sacramento & probably to Seattle, it's the west coast so maybe PP for Cousins. Again, I know NBA is a business but ask PP if he'd mind.
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/15/2013 4:55 PM EST
In response to SFBostonFan's comment:
I feel PP will either retire or be gone next year to play 1-2 more years. Sure, I'd like him to retire in Green but since he is from So. Cal. how about asking him if he'd like to play with the Clippers & we'd get Deandre Jordan and as much as I hate the Lakers, maybe Pau Gasol for PP. Then explore GS and I let him go for Lee. Doesn't solve our big man problem but I'd let him go for Curry. And if they wanted Rondo, I think Curry is better so goodbye RR.
And, of course, Sacramento & probably to Seattle, it's the west coast so maybe PP for Cousins. Again, I know NBA is a business but ask PP if he'd mind.
Re: Pierce on the trading block
posted at 1/16/2013 12:23 PM EST
In response to damfuno's comment:
According to CBS Ken Berger reports that Danny Ainge has been shopping Paul Pierce in trade offers.
http://redsarmy.com/2013/01/11/report-danny-shopping-paul-pierce/
Gee, too bad when Danny was offering Ray a no trade clause, Paul did not ask for one too.