Pitino Rewrites Celtic History With Nowitzki-Pierce Draft Story

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    When we drafted Pierce at ten, I could not believe he lasted that long.

    I was thrilled.

     
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    mployee, agreed 100 percent. 

    Pitino flat out stunk in Boston. For him to try to rewrite that now is beyond insulting. 

    no idea why Pierce fell to 10 but for that matter how did Nowitzski fall to 9?

    a few guys with good careers went ahead but if you drafted again it would be Dirk 1, Pierce 2, and Carter 3, though Carter IMO could have been the best in that class if he had put his mind to it Jordan style....

       
     
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    p.s. but if Pierce fell to 10, it's more evidence we could have a decent pick at the 6 this year :) 

      
     
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    Wait so I'm confused...so the Celtics were originally planing to draft Dirk?

     
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    In response to JohnnyLefty's comment:

    Wait so I'm confused...so the Celtics were originally planing to draft Dirk?




    Yes

    Lucky for us Pierce fell to 10 or our already sickened fanbase would have been stuck with Robert Traylor or Larry Hughes.

    Had we hired Larry Brown instead of Pitino, like we were supposed to (Brown even told close friends Gaston/Cohen had given him the job) the Pitino years likely would have looked like this instead:

    1997 draft - Billups and McGrady (not Mercer, Pitino's KU player)

    1997 offseason - Travis Knight still signed b/c the team had no center, but not Chris Mills. Brown understood you had to be bad for 1-2 years and save money and Pitino didn't. Eric Williams, Bruce Bowen and McGrady could all play SF, so no Mills.

    1997 preseason - Ben Wallace is given last roster spot leaving camp over Dwayne Schnizious. The defensive minded Brown would likely have seen Ben's bright future despite how raw he was, Pitino cut Ben and kept Dwayne, who already had 3-4 other chances and failed.

    1997-98 season - The team is worse than the 36 win one Pitino coached, b/c of no Billups for Kenny Anderson trade and Mercer was a better pro than McGrady, for all of 2 years, before TMac blew up

    1998 draft - picking 5th-8th instead of 10th the Celtics take Dirk (Pierce becomes a Mav?)

    1998-99 offseason - Brown loves his gritty defensive players so Bruce Bowen would have been extended. Travis Knight is still traded for Tony Battie.

    1999 season - Would Antoine show up fat off the lockout for Brown the way he did for Pitino? I doubt it. Team is young, hustles, plays D but still picks in 6-9 range year 2 of 3 year rebuild plan. Dirk and TMac were 9ppg guys in '99, 17/15 guys in '00 and then 22/27 point guy in '01.

    1999 draft - Brown would be loving Marion and Artest but the team is so forward heavy and would be needing to replace Barros and Dee Brown that they have to pick between Andre Miller and Jason Terry. Brown probably goes with old school Miller who can distribute better. Billups through '99 was an underachiever suited to a bench role backing up both guards. He'd probably be more comfortable/confident under Brown and on the same club that drafted him and not 3 in 3 years.

    1999-2000 season - The team finally starts to show how incredible it will become. Brown extends Antoine and turns him into a 15-10-5 6th man, who jacks only 3-4 3's a game and knows his role is to play point-forward and dominate other teams bench guys. Billups, E Will and Battie join him off the bench. 

    The starters are Wallace, Dirk, Bowen, McGrady and Miller. A crew that will grow together for years. They lose to Bird's Pacers in rd 2 in 2000, replace AI's Sixers and Kidd's Nets in losing to the Lakers in '01 and '02, then replace LA as the next dynasty and win 4-5 in a row;-)

     
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    Re: Pitino Rewrites Celtic History With Nowitzki-Pierce Draft Story

    In response to chris33's comment:

    When we drafted Pierce at ten, I could not believe he lasted that long.

    I was thrilled.



    +1 couldn't agree more. It's always nice seeing an awesome player slide right to your team.

     
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    WE ended up just fine with who we drafted...and Pitino's coaching in Boston was about as successful as sales of his pasta sauce.

     
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    Re: Pitino Rewrites Celtic History With Nowitzki-Pierce Draft Story

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    Wait so I'm confused...so the Celtics were originally planing to draft Dirk?

     




    Yes ... Pitino had a private workout in Europe and Dirk agreed to tell any other teams (according to Pitino) that he was not coming out for the draft due to military obligations. Meanwhile, Nellie saw Dirk working out in Dallas for the Nike Hoop Summit and was tempted to draft him at #6 but wanted Nash as well. So to pick up another 1st round pick, Dallas traded down with the Bucks for #9 and #19. Nellie had big ones to trade down to #9 with the C's at #10 (remember, Pitino now says that Dallas was #11 and called to swap picks for that $3MM ... Hahaha!) but he was confident that Boston was their only competition for the German. Rick had no clue that Dallas had discovered Dirk, and being overconfident himself that Dirk would be Celtic property at #10, and with expectations that Pierce would go top five if not higher, the C's never did their due diligence on Pierce. This left Rick scrambling for info when the Bucks picked Dirk for Dallas and the C's were on the clock with Pierce the best player available. But why was Pierce still available? All Rick had time for was a quick phone call to Roy Williams @ Kansas to verify that there was nothing wrong with Pierce. Upon getting a thumbs up from Williams, the C's announced their pick ... Paul Pierce! But yes indeed, #10 in 1998 was supposed to be Dirk Nowitzki all along.

     

     

     

     

     

     PS: And for those who claim the C's never had a #1 lottery pick .... they are wrong. The C's traded that #1 for Parish and the 3rd pick which of course was McHale.

     

     

     

    http://nbatrades.tumblr.com/post/30811634381/celtics-get-robert-parish-kevin-mchale-in-same-trade" rel="nofollow">http://nbatrades.tumblr.com/post/30811634381/celtics-get-robert-parish-kevin-mchale-in-same-trade




    Ahhh....  Joe Barry Carroll.  How soon we forget.

     
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    In response to Mployee8's comment:

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    Wait so I'm confused...so the Celtics were originally planing to draft Dirk?

     




    Yes ... Pitino had a private workout in Europe and Dirk agreed to tell any other teams (according to Pitino) that he was not coming out for the draft due to military obligations. Meanwhile, Nellie saw Dirk working out in Dallas for the Nike Hoop Summit and was tempted to draft him at #6 but wanted Nash as well. So to pick up another 1st round pick, Dallas traded down with the Bucks for #9 and #19. Nellie had big ones to trade down to #9 with the C's at #10 (remember, Pitino now says that Dallas was #11 and called to swap picks for that $3MM ... Hahaha!) but he was confident that Boston was their only competition for the German. Rick had no clue that Dallas had discovered Dirk, and being overconfident himself that Dirk would be Celtic property at #10, and with expectations that Pierce would go top five if not higher, the C's never did their due diligence on Pierce. This left Rick scrambling for info when the Bucks picked Dirk for Dallas and the C's were on the clock with Pierce the best player available. But why was Pierce still available? All Rick had time for was a quick phone call to Roy Williams @ Kansas to verify that there was nothing wrong with Pierce. Upon getting a thumbs up from Williams, the C's announced their pick ... Paul Pierce! But yes indeed, #10 in 1998 was supposed to be Dirk Nowitzki all along.

     

     

     

     

     

     PS: And for those who claim the C's never had a #1 lottery pick .... they are wrong. The C's traded that #1 for Parish and the 3rd pick which of course was McHale.

     

     

     

    http://nbatrades.tumblr.com/post/30811634381/celtics-get-robert-parish-kevin-mchale-in-same-trade" rel="nofollow">http://nbatrades.tumblr.com/post/30811634381/celtics-get-robert-parish-kevin-mchale-in-same-trade" rel="nofollow">http://nbatrades.tumblr.com/post/30811634381/celtics-get-robert-parish-kevin-mchale-in-same-trade




    Ahhh....  Joe Barry Carroll.  How soon we forget.



    That's "THE IMMORTAL" Joe Barry Carroll to you!!! :)

     
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