Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?

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    Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?

    posted at 1/20/2012 10:12 PM EST

    This core group’s window was open these past few years and Danny destroyed the chemistry of that opportunity.

     

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    posted at 1/20/2012 10:15 PM EST

    Danny can't control guys getting old or guys not wanting to play in Boston.
     

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    posted at 1/20/2012 10:15 PM EST

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    This core group’s window was open these past few years and Danny destroyed the chemistry of that opportunity.
    Posted by 1954ricky


    Everybody makes mistakes.

    In case you didn't know, our last chance at a championship was in 2010. KG 3 rebounds, Pau Gasol 18 rebounds, enough said.


     

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    posted at 1/20/2012 10:19 PM EST

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    Danny can't control guys getting old or guys not wanting to play in Boston.
    Posted by notrade


    Your right, but he can control drafting well and setting up key players to help the core guys and make a good future. Totally missing out on DeAndre Jordan, Marshon Brooks are prime examples.
     

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    posted at 1/20/2012 10:21 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?:
    In Response to Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable? : Your right, but he can control drafting well and setting up key players to help the core guys and make a good future. Totally missing out on DeAndre Jordan, Marshon Brooks are prime examples.
    Posted by CelticFanLA


    Come on, hindsight is always 20-20.
     

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    posted at 1/20/2012 10:24 PM EST

    Sorry guys but you're making too many excuses for Danny. I'm with Ricky. Danny tinkered and traded and brought in worse players every year. Then, he took major risks with draft choices (wouldn't Brooks really be helping tonight?). We have nothing to show for our draft choices. Doc is dealing with a different set of players every year! He tore this team apart ( and had some bad luck with Green's condition). Rebounding is critical and he traded our size in Perk, didn't keep Delonte, drafted horribly, took in some real bums with Arroyo, Sasha, Murphy. Players don't want to come to Boston? Danny and his stupid moves show players that there's no love in Beantown.
     

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    posted at 1/20/2012 10:28 PM EST

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    Sorry guys but you're making too many excuses for Danny. I'm with Ricky. Danny tinkered and traded and brought in worse players every year. Then, he took major risks with draft choices (wouldn't Brooks really be helping tonight?). We have nothing to show for our draft choices. Doc is dealing with a different set of players every year! He tore this team apart ( and had some bad luck with Green's condition). Rebounding is critical and he traded our size in Perk, didn't keep Delonte, drafted horribly, took in some real bums with Arroyo, Sasha, Murphy. Players don't want to come to Boston? Danny and his stupid moves show players that there's no love in Beantown.
    Posted by Celtsfan4life


    Part of it is Ainge's fault. But come on, KG never attempted a single FT in the first 2 games of the Heat-Celts series last May. Our team just got old.
     

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    In Response to Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable? : Come on, hindsight is always 20-20. Posted by Fiercest34
    Yes, it is. But, if we can criticize the players and Doc and second guess them, we can second guess the boss who made all the big decisions. You don't go to the 7th game of the NBA finals and lose because your rebounder was out and then trade away your size without giving that same team a chance. You don't take the team with the best or second best record in the league and blow up the starting center and the bench so that all chemistry and all defensive continuity As fans, we can definitely evaluate Danny's performance.
     

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    posted at 1/20/2012 10:31 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?:
    In response to "Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?": Yes, it is. But, if we can criticize the players and Doc and second guess them, we can second guess the boss who made all the big decisions. You don't go to the 7th game of the NBA finals and lose because your rebounder was out and then trade away your size without giving that same team a chance. You don't take the team with the best or second best record in the league and blow up the starting center and the bench so that all chemistry and all defensive continuity As fans, we can definitely evaluate Danny's performance.
    Posted by Celtsfan4life


    That's why I said part of it is Danny Ainge's fault. 
     

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    Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?

    posted at 1/20/2012 10:32 PM EST

    Thank you all for your posts!
     

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    posted at 1/20/2012 10:33 PM EST

    In response to "Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?":
    In Response to Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable? : Part of it is Ainge's fault. But come on, KG never attempted a single FT in the first 2 games of the Heat-Celts series last May. Our team just got old. Posted by Fiercest34
    If you are the GM, you don't count on an older thin power forward with a reconstructed knee to carry you underneath the basket. Size matters, my friend, and Danny castrated his team.
     

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    posted at 1/20/2012 10:36 PM EST

    Miami KILLED us on the boards so what mistake do you think Danny has made? If your team is small, you don't keep drafting in between guards and try to make them learn to be point guards! The players and Doc deserve the criticism but so does Danny!,
     

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    posted at 1/20/2012 10:39 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?:
    In response to "Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?": If you are the GM, you don't count on an older thin power forward with a reconstructed knee to carry you underneath the basket. Size matters, my friend, and Danny castrated his team.
    Posted by Celtsfan4life


    Agreed. But I will reserve judgement until we actually see who the Celts get with that Clips pick.
     

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    posted at 1/20/2012 10:42 PM EST

    Ok. I hope it works out for us. Maybe Danny will be vindicated.
     

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    Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?

    posted at 1/20/2012 10:50 PM EST

    Most threads don't hold Danny Ainge accountable for the simple reason that he brought a championship to Boston after more than 20 years.
    Having said that, the Perk trade and his choices with the meager draft picks we have had lately have not been good for the team.
    I expect major changes to this team to take place probably sooner than later.
    I think Ainge will wait for Rondo to return and then watch the team for 7-10 days before finalizing his thinking regarding this year's playoff chances vs next year's team.
    Frankly, it's more the age of the big 3 than anything else.
     

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    Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?

    posted at 1/20/2012 11:01 PM EST

    breaktime nailed it. Ainge brought us a ring, buys him some leeway. The Perk trade was horrible though as much as i grill him for it in my heart of hearts I don't think it cost us a ring. It cost us some dignity and some postseason advancement though.
     

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    posted at 1/20/2012 11:09 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?:
    In Response to Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable? : Your right, but he can control drafting well and setting up key players to help the core guys and make a good future. Totally missing out on DeAndre Jordan, Marshon Brooks are prime examples.
    Posted by CelticFanLA


    If DeAndre and Brooks had been drafted by the celtics,Doc. would have them seating at the end of the bench
     

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    Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?

    posted at 1/20/2012 11:34 PM EST

    In Response to Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?:
    In Response to Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable? : If DeAndre and Brooks had been drafted by the celtics,Doc. would have them seating at the end of the bench
    Posted by debrit


    You might be very well right, but when they finally played, it would have been worth the wait.
     

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    Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?

    posted at 1/20/2012 11:42 PM EST

    Well said, breaktime and BTS. Danny gets credit for a bold plan that brought us a Championship (never take this for granted) but his decisions on the inevitable transition have patchy at best. Sink or swim, the ball's with him now because this group is finished.
     

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    posted at 1/21/2012 12:28 AM EST

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    breaktime nailed it. Ainge brought us a ring, buys him some leeway. The Perk trade was horrible though as much as i grill him for it in my heart of hearts I don't think it cost us a ring. It cost us some dignity and some postseason advancement though.
    Posted by BostonTrollSpanker


    it..."COST"...the c's TRUST in danny ..THE TRAITOR


    danny ...BETRAYED UBUNTU ...plain and simple...


    danny forever LOST THE RESPECT of the team...


    danny should...take his talents to the BERMUDA TRIANGLE...



     

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    Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?

    posted at 1/21/2012 12:48 AM EST

    In response to "Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?":
    In Response to Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable? : If DeAndre and Brooks had been drafted by the celtics,Doc. would have them seating at the end of the bench Posted by debrit
    Maybe or maybe not. Given his history with Rondo, Baby, and Powe - I'd guess they'd be playing. But, whenever Danny traded the big 3, we would at least have something to fall back on.
     

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    Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?

    posted at 1/21/2012 1:12 AM EST

    DA, just like any other GM, should be held accountable for the performance of his team. Yes, he brought KG and RA to Boston and a 17th championshiop as well. But that's all in the past now. He has earned and received all the praises and accolades for those accomplishments. DA hasn't done much since then to earn the approval of the crltics and fans. He has drafted poorly and made questionable trades that have raised eyebrows among the Celtics faithful. DA should not be treated as a sacred cow. Theo Epstein brought two championships to the Red Sox after an even much longer drought. After realizing at the end of last season that his tenure in Boston had run its course, he resigned his GM position. Perhaps, DA's time has come as well.
     

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    posted at 1/21/2012 1:18 AM EST

       Fiercest34 you're only one living in hindsight.   DA's poor moves are what I've been saying @ every draft (and many other forum contributors) or free agent pick ups.  No drafts stuck for 5yrs.  JON, old Gary Payton, Scal for 5yrs.   Giddens!!   I still don't know what MDaniels does.   Listen to me now: JGreen is a bust!   He'll never come close to PP or a Reggie Lewis (nor a James Harden).   And, one of the worse of any GM of all time: Vin Baker (who was a scrub even before his alcohol problem came to light).  When you fail once in a while...expected.   When it's everytime...incompetence!
     

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    Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?

    posted at 1/21/2012 1:40 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?:
       Fiercest34 you're only one living in hindsight.   DA's poor moves are what I've been saying @ every draft (and many other forum contributors) or free agent pick ups.  No drafts stuck for 5yrs.  JON, old Gary Payton, Scal for 5yrs.   Giddens!!   I still don't know what MDaniels does.   Listen to me now: JGreen is a bust!   He'll never come close to PP or a Reggie Lewis (nor a James Harden).   And, one of the worse of any GM of all time: Vin Baker (who was a scrub even before his alcohol problem came to light).  When you fail once in a while...expected.   When it's everytime...incompetence!
    Posted by docc


    Danny Ainge was not the one who traded for Vin Baker. Ainge was still a commentator for TNT when Baker became a Celtic.
     

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    Re: Please help me understand why most discussions don't hold Danny Ainge accountable?

    posted at 1/21/2012 10:58 AM EST


     Kevin McHale should get more credit for #17 then Danny. We need someone who knows talent, and someone the players like and respect, because i don't think they like or respect Danny!!  Wonder if Jerry West could be talked out of retirement!!