
Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/23/2011 1:41 PM EST

How many regular season games will the Celtics win this season?
 
Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/23/2011 2:44 PM EST
Stein has the C's ranked 11th in his initial Power Rankings at ESPN.
Heat, Bulls and Knicks are all ranked ahead of us in the East.
He sez...
As if Celts fans weren't already worried about their creaky heroes coping with 66 games in such a short span, there's this worrisome omen: Boston is 9414 (.870) before Christmas in the KG Era's four seasons ... and just 14080 (.636) after Christmas.
Pud 
Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/23/2011 3:16 PM EST

At this point, every guess is a wild guess, as the first five votes show. 
Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/23/2011 4:17 PM EST
A trend is starting to show now, though... 
Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/23/2011 6:27 PM EST

Yes a trend is showing.
Too bad there is such a big difference between 39 wins and 45 wins. I'd consider 45 wins a very successful season, while 39 wins would be kind of dissappointing  still enough to make the playoffs, though, I'd guess.
 
Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/23/2011 7:21 PM EST
With this years schedule 10  15 games over .500 will be good for any team. 
Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/23/2011 10:28 PM EST

Again, let me point out a mathematical fact: 10 games over .500 would be a WP% of .657, whereas 15 games over .500 would be a WP% of .727: a huge statistical difference.
 
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Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/23/2011 11:17 PM EST

I say the Celtics win 50, ten of them on Celtic Pride alone.
We be Lethal Green.
      
Slow dance with the Devil,
Snow setting in the bezzle,
Mo' sipping, phantom bumping Aaron Neville,
Polo black scented, eyes squinted,
Air Force One's with my own patent in it
Fresher than a star, glowing up in the galaxy,
Pagan holidays, are way far from my reality,
Far through Evisu jeans, lethal green.
Merry Christmas. Merry Pagan Holidays.
 
Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/24/2011 8:17 AM EST
In Response to Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?:
[QUOTE] Again, let me point out a mathematical fact: 10 games over .500 would be a WP% of .657 , whereas 15 games over .500 would be a WP% of .727 : a huge statistical difference. 
Posted by RajonRondowski[/QUOTE]
Check your math..
10 games over .500 would be a 3828 record, (WP% .575) not .657
15 games over .500 is impossible in an even amount of games played (66). Celts can only be 4125 (WP% .621) or 4026 (WP% .606), nowhere near .727. 
Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/24/2011 4:36 PM EST
In Response to Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins? : Check your math.. 10 games over .500 would be a 3828 record, (WP% .575) not .657 15 games over .500 is impossible in an even amount of games played (66). Celts can only be 4125 (WP% .621) or 4026 (WP% .606), nowhere near .727.
Posted by Karllost[/QUOTE]
Pretty critical here. Was just stating with this season schedule finishing 10 to 14 (correction) games over .500 is going to be tough. Has anyone look at the schedule yet? Some nights are back to back with a plane ride. (Short ride) but non the less. Believe the toughest month is going to be April. Happy Holidays to posters and the Celtics. Go get em' Celtics. 
Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/24/2011 5:25 PM EST
Good post. this will be fun to look at, at the end of the year. I picked 33 to 38 wins. I don't see this team getting the benefits of any calls like they use to. Seems the league is already pushing them out. I think they'll win around 35 games. Hope I'm wrong though. Would love for 1 more push in the finals.
However, if they don't look like they're going to win 3537+ games by trade deadline. Will Danny pull the plug? 
Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/24/2011 5:46 PM EST
In Response to Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins? : Check your math.. 10 games over .500 would be a 3828 record, (WP% .575) not .657 15 games over .500 is impossible in an even amount of games played (66). Celts can only be 4125 (WP% .621) or 4026 (WP% .606), nowhere near .727.
Posted by Karllost[/QUOTE]

I don't understand your math. Please explain.
In a 66 game schedule, 33  33, would be a WP of .500. 10 games over .500 (33 + 10 = 43 wins) would be a record of 43  23 for a WP of .651. Is this correct?
15 wins over .500 (33 + 15 = 48) would be a record of 48  18 for a Wp of .727. Is this also correct?
My math albility has always been suspect.
 
Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/24/2011 5:47 PM EST
i like this year's model celtics. look for stronger bench play than last year. and more running. 4422's my guess. what's that, 200%? ha! 
Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/24/2011 6:21 PM EST
In Response to Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?:
[QUOTE]Stein has the C's ranked 11th in his initial Power Rankings at ESPN. Heat, Bulls and Knicks are all ranked ahead of us in the East. He sez... As if Celts fans weren't already worried about their creaky heroes coping with 66 games in such a short span, there's this worrisome omen: Boston is 9414 (.870) before Christmas in the KG Era's four seasons ... and just 14080 (.636) after Christmas. Pud
Posted by puddinpuddin[/QUOTE]
Stein is a complete moron.Every pre seasson a keep track of his predictions.He is a joke and espn pays him real money.If rhese experts had a job evaluation,they would be fired. 
Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/24/2011 6:32 PM EST
I think we are looking at somewhere between 35 and forty wins. All that will matter is the playoffs. 
Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/24/2011 8:57 PM EST
In Response to Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins? : Stein is a complete moron.Every pre seasson a keep track of his predictions.He is a joke and espn pays him real money.If rhese experts had a job evaluation,they would be fired.
Posted by debrit[/QUOTE]
A complete moron? Don't think so. During the KG era, he has consistently ranked the C's within the top 3 or so every preseason including last year.
This year is clearly different. He senses something.
Pud 
Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/24/2011 9:18 PM EST
In Response to Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins? :  I don't understand your math. Please explain. In a 66 game schedule, 33  33, would be a WP of .500. 10 games over .500 (33 + 10 = 43 wins) would be a record of 43  23 for a WP of .651. Is this correct? 15 wins over .500 (33 + 15 = 48) would be a record of 48  18 for a Wp of .727. Is this also correct? My math albility has always been suspect. 
Posted by RajonRondowski[/QUOTE]
Yes, your math leaves alot to be desired. In your world is a record of 4818 really 15 games over .500?
Ten games over .500 isnt 43 wins... its how many wins more than losses. So, 3828 is 10 games over .500 (3828 = 10) Your example of 4223 is 20 games over .500... 
Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/25/2011 2:19 AM EST
In Response to Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins? : Yes, your math leaves alot to be desired. In your world is a record of 4818 really 15 games over .500? Ten games over .500 isnt 43 wins... its how many wins more than losses. So, 3828 is 10 games over .500 (3828 = 10) Your example of 4223 is 20 games over .500...
Posted by Karllost[/QUOTE]

I'm looking at final records. If 33 wins in a 66 game season equals a .500 WP, exactly, Then why would not a final record of 10 games over .500 equal 43 wins? 
Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/25/2011 10:43 AM EST
In Response to Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?:
[QUOTE]I'm looking at final records. If 33 wins in a 66 game season equals a .500 WP, exactly, Then why would not a final record of 10 games over .500 equal 43 wins?
Posted by RajonRondowski[/QUOTE]
I'm a numbers guy myself and that never made sense to me either. 
Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?
posted at 12/25/2011 10:56 AM EST
In Response to Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins?:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Preseason Poll # One  How Many Wins? :  I'm looking at final records. If 33 wins in a 66 game season equals a .500 WP, exactly, Then why would not a final record of 10 games over .500 equal 43 wins?
Posted by RajonRondowski[/QUOTE]
Take it one game at a time:
3333 is .500
One more win means also one less loss: 3432 2 games over
35  31  4 games over
I leave the rest to you as an exercise!! Hey, man, I'm on vacation  don't make me teach math at Christmas time!!!!