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    Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/30/2011 10:12 PM EST

    He shows he's not done yet.
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 3:25 AM EST

    Good lift, hopefully KG is next to find his legs.
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 5:26 AM EST

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    Good lift, hopefully KG is next to find his legs.
    Posted by futbal

    he's done!  all these players should have been in shape with an extended off season.  Im pessimistic when it comes to KG.
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 8:33 AM EST

    Jermaine needs to be used in this way in say 8 game stretches:

    - 5 games where he averages 18-22 mins, 5-7 points, 4-5 reb's, 1-2 blocks

    - 2 games where he gets 26-32 mins, 13-17 points, 6-9 reb's, 2-3 blocks

    - 1 game off when Steimesma/Wilcox get big mins

    That means in a 66 game season he plays 57-59 games and averages 8-9 points, just under 6 boards and 2 blocks

    Then hopefully he is that 28m-11p-8r-2b guy in EVERY playoff game

    We'd just need another Center to share time with him, gotta upgrade from Wilcox
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 9:20 AM EST

    Hopefully this ends the "start Steimsma" nonsense
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 9:46 AM EST

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    Hopefully this ends the "start Steimsma" nonsense
    Posted by Schumpeters-Ghost


    Ha Ha
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 9:54 AM EST

    he looked great last night. i liked what steimsma brought off the bench as well. kid can play D and block some shots. we need that!
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 10:24 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Props to Jermaine:
    Good lift, hopefully KG is next to find his legs.
    Posted by futbal


    Agreee that Jermaine had a good game last night.  Hopefully this will continue. We can only hope that KG improves as the season goes on.  He definitely appears not to be in great shape and probably didn't keep himself in great shape during the lockout.  I already posted that maybe KG is done and will retire after the season is over. 
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 10:28 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Props to Jermaine:
    In Response to Re: Props to Jermaine : Agreee that Jermaine had a good game last night.  Hopefully this will continue. We can only hope that KG improves as the season goes on.  He definitely appears not to be in great shape and probably didn't keep himself in great shape during the lockout.  I already posted that maybe KG is done and will retire after the season is over. 
    Posted by susan250


    KG looks good, he hasn't gained weight or anything like that. He just got old. It's really not his fault.
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 10:30 AM EST

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    In Response to Re: Props to Jermaine : KG looks good, he hasn't gained weight or anything like that. He just got old. It's really not his fault.
    Posted by Fiercest34


    Do you think it is possible that KG retires after the season ends?  That is usually what happens when a player knows his skills are declining. 
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 10:35 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Props to Jermaine:
    In Response to Re: Props to Jermaine : Do you think it is possible that KG retires after the season ends?  That is usually what happens when a player knows his skills are declining. 
    Posted by susan250


    I'm not sure. But definitelly there will be a lot of teams interested in his services if he decides to leave the Celts. 
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 10:36 AM EST

    All is well. 

    Folks, when looking at KG look over to Mr. Duncan and the Spurs.  Doc and KG are not going to exert themselves.  Paul Pierce, is, has been, always will be the Alpha Dog of the team.  The minutes are not going to be there this year and he is content to bring the team defense, the chemistry, and the teaching of the other guys the Celtics Way.  We need a rested KG for the playoffs, that is all (25-30 minutes).  

    We do not need it as much as we think;  Brandon Bass is going to take this slack up and is the reason why Doc and Danny were looking to David West. 

    If Doc had his way he would slide KG to the five.  

     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 10:41 AM EST

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    All is well.  Folks, when looking at KG look over to Mr. Duncan and the Spurs.  Doc and KG are not going to exert themselves.  Paul Pierce, is, has been, always will be the Alpha Dog of the team.  The minutes are not going to be there this year and he is content to bring the team defense, the chemistry, and the teaching of the other guys the Celtics Way.  We need a rested KG for the playoffs, that is all (25-30 minutes).   We do not need it as much as we think;  Brandon Bass is going to take this slack up and is the reason why Doc and Danny were looking to David West.  If Doc had his way he would slide KG to the five.  
    Posted by ShepherdCall


    All is not well!

    Duncan and the Spurs are averaging 42 rebounds per game while the Celts are only grabbing 34 rebounds per game. There's a big difference.
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 10:55 AM EST

    All is definitely not well. We just played the possibly worst team in the league at home.  JON I give props to but will he ever sustain this against a good team when we need it is a valid question.  People who think he is a answer are going to be very disappointed over this brutal schedule.
    KG as has been mentioned looks hopeless.  He is old and JON is old both with 15 NBA seasons.  This season is going to be interesting for the experiment that is relying in three men at the end of their careers.  It is noble and will present its own kind of drama.  But JON has a lot to prove he has stunk for three years and to rely on him is very dicey.
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 10:58 AM EST

    Duncan is averaging 8 pts and 5 rebounds a game.  The Spurs distribute their minutes pretty well.  Pop's is very good coach. 
    Again the number of rebounds is not as significant as getting the proper percentage of rebounds.  Lowering the offensive rebounds of the other team.  We shoot right at the bottom as far as shots per game.  Pretty sure our opponents numbers are the same, their field goal attempts are probably less against us than against other teams.  There is probably somewhere around 12-15 less rebounds a game to split between us and our opponent.  Now I am not going to try to look up these stats but your more than welcome to.  I just know our games are low scoring, basically from less shots because normally we shoot a high percentage and don't run much.
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 11:01 AM EST

    If you can get Doc to increase our shots about 10 a game, the other team will also increase their shots and I am sure we will be up around 40 something per game.

    Don't get me wrong I am not saying were a good rebounding team by any stretch, I just think your putting too much emphasis on a number.

     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 11:08 AM EST

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    Duncan is averaging 8 pts and 5 rebounds a game.  The Spurs distribute their minutes pretty well.  Pop's is very good coach.  Again the number of rebounds is not as significant as getting the proper percentage of rebounds.  Lowering the offensive rebounds of the other team.  We shoot right at the bottom as far as shots per game.  Pretty sure our opponents numbers are the same, their field goal attempts are probably less against us than against other teams.  There is probably somewhere around 12-15 less rebounds a game to split between us and our opponent.  Now I am not going to try to look up these stats but your more than welcome to.  I just know our games are low scoring, basically from less shots because normally we shoot a high percentage and don't run much.
    Posted by OneOnOne


    If we're shooting at a high % that means less defensive rebounds for the opponents. The Pistons shot 43% last night and ended up with 12 offensive rebounds. That means 12 potential shot attempts. If the Celts only secured the defensive rebound it would have resulted in lesser 2nd chance points for the Pistons.
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 11:12 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Props to Jermaine:
    If you can get Doc to increase our shots about 10 a game, the other team will also increase their shots and I am sure we will be up around 40 something per game. Don't get me wrong I am not saying were a good rebounding team by any stretch, I just think your putting too much emphasis on a number.
    Posted by OneOnOne


    This season the Celts are averaging 34 rpg while the opponents are averaging 38 rpg. That means we're getting outrebounded every game by 4 rebounds.

    In 2010 and 2011 the Celts was just averaging 38 rpg, 2nd to the last in the NBA the last 2 seasons.

    Even the Antoine Walker teams of the early 2000s got 40 rebounds per game.
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 11:19 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Props to Jermaine:
    In Response to Re: Props to Jermaine : If we're shooting at a high % that means less defensive rebounds for the opponents. The Pistons shot 43% last night and ended up with 12 offensive rebounds. That means 12 potential shot attempts. If the Celts only secured the defensive rebound it would have resulted in lesser 2nd chance points for the Pistons.
    Posted by Fiercest34


     Those twelve extra shots  would be twelve extra rebounds and if they shoot 50% with those 12 shots, thats 12 more points they score.   Like I have said,  its getting the biggest percentage of rebounds each game and limiting the offensive rebounds of the other team. I will take getting a higher percentage of rebounds each game to a number of rebounds.   Our totals may not be that high but again we don't play a fast paced game so there are not as many rebounds to be had. Percentage of rebounds = win.
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 11:31 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Props to Jermaine:
    In Response to Re: Props to Jermaine :  Those twelve extra shots  would be twelve extra rebounds and if they shoot 50% with those 12 shots, thats 12 more points they score.   Like I have said,  its getting the biggest percentage of rebounds each game and limiting the offensive rebounds of the other team. I will take getting a higher percentage of rebounds each game to a number of rebounds.   Our totals may not be that high but again we don't play a fast paced game so there are not as many rebounds to be had. Percentage of rebounds = win.
    Posted by OneOnOne


    12 shots is equal to 24 points.

    The Celts are averaging 34 rpg while the opponent is averaging 38 rpg, 9.5 offensive rebounds per game. Allowing our opponents 9.5 offensive rebounds per game is a lot. 

    Last season and the season before the Celts were 2nd to the last in rebounding in the NBA. No rebounds, no rings.

    You also have to consider this, no team in NBA history has won a championship averaging less than 40 rebounds per game.


     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 11:44 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Props to Jermaine:
    In Response to Re: Props to Jermaine : 12 shots is equal to 24 points. The Celts are averaging 34 rpg while the opponent is averaging 38 rpg, 9.5 offensive rebounds per game. Allowing our opponents 9.5 offensive rebounds per game is a lot.  Last season and the season before the Celts were 2nd to the last in rebounding in the NBA. No rebounds, no rings. You also have to consider this, no team in NBA history has won a championship averaging less than 40 rebounds per game.
    Posted by Fiercest34


    12 shots equal 24 pts if you hit 100% of your shots  Now who shoots 100% on shots?   Like I said I agree we need to rebound better.  If you want more rebounds though you better tell Doc to speed up the game.  There are only so many out there during our games.
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 11:50 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Props to Jermaine:
    In Response to Re: Props to Jermaine : 12 shots equal 24 pts if you hit 100% of your shots  Now who shoots 100% on shots?   Like I said I agree we need to rebound better.  If you want more rebounds though you better tell Doc to speed up the game.  There are only so many out there during our games.
    Posted by OneOnOne


    It's not the number of shots, it's limiting the opponent to fewer offensive rebounds. I get your point about less shot attempts equals less rebounds. But we're being outrebounded every game. The Pistons only got 35 rebounds, but we did worse by getting only 30 rebounds. And to think the Pistons are the 2nd worst rebounding team in the NBA right now. 
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 12:27 PM EST

    Fierce,
    What was our shooting percentage and what was Detroit's?  That certainly plays a role in the number of rebounds a team should have.
     

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    Re: Props to Jermaine

    posted at 12/31/2011 12:47 PM EST

    Jerlame earned his pay check against the pitiful and useless Pistons but the guy is still a stiff!

    Trade him Dannnnyyyyy.