Proud Of You Danny

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    are there any other real options for trading Rivers and KG? maybe Danny should just suck it up and take Jordan + the 1st rounder. 2013 is a great draft class and having a lotto pick + LA's pick would be a great start to the rebuilding process.

     
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    Once Bledsoe was not included, the so termed "Mega Deal" wasn't. Jordan, Bledoe, one or two first rounders for Doc, Garnett, and wink wink -Pierce wuld have been a mega deal.  The oft discussed potential trade would have given more ligitimacy to the Clippers.  Doc, whatever one thinks of his in game coaching -is star quality.  Garnett brings Doc's defensive knowledge and his edge.

    Garnett straight across if Doc was going to LA, was okay.  The refusal to include a second first rounder by the Clippers, coupled with not taking on a contract, either reveals a lack of interest in trading, or a willingness to try to run their same squad out there and plan to do better, or shows that Mr. Sterling counts his pennies quite closely for an owner of a major franchise.

    I recognize the need to rebuild, actually remember Danny telling the story (once traded to Sacramento) of his conversation with Red Auerback about the need to trade Bird/Parish/McHale, and he ended up being traded.  I would rather go into the new season with the old guys, reunited with hopefully a healthy Rondo, and do the best the team can, then to just concede on every refusal put forth by the L.A. Clippers.  personally, I would be quite disappointed if a Clipper Fan on not getting Doc, Garnett, and possibly Pierce.


    Yeah. i'm really proud of Danny too. Heck of a job Danny, turning a once proud franchise into an irrelevant one.

     
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    Until DA gets a better deal, Id reserve judgment.

    Now its being said DA wants Doc back coaching again. I assume he needs to say that to improve his hand if another Doc trade is in the works. however, if we start next season with Doc and KG still Celtics well.....

     
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    In response to Karllost's comment:

    Until DA gets a better deal, Id reserve judgment.

    Now its being said DA wants Doc back coaching again. I assume he needs to say that to improve his hand if another Doc trade is in the works. however, if we start next season with Doc and KG still Celtics well.....



    I also heard this about Doc still coaching the Celtics.  If Doc really wants to leave I don't understand how he will be an effective coach although I wouldn't be surprised if he is still coaching the Celtics next season.  I am surprised that the Clippers deal didn't happen. 

     
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    We can't force doc to coach this team. He can walk away any time he wants to. All we can do is keep him from coaching another team. I don't see how he can coach the Cs this year. Seems like that bridge may nave been burned. Not sure what will happen, but I'm not expecting doc back. Not sure about KG or PP either at this point. 

     
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    If DA wants an even stronger hand negotiating with weak-azz teams like the Clips, he doesn't stand pat.

    Not this proud riverboat gambler with the strong, strong, strong hands!

    He tears up the old contract and gives doc a new 5yr/50mil contract with even tougher non-compete clause, hires 24/7 bodyguards for management and team owners alike,  beefs up security at the Garden, beefs up his life insurance coverage and sits back waiting for the season to start with essentially the same proud, underperforming, over-paid geriatric/crippled, can't shoot/run/rebound crew as last season.

    That'll show the PO-bound clips (and everyone else) that our own fearless, riverboat gambler still has it going on.

    Pud

     
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    Once Bledsoe was not included, the so termed "Mega Deal" wasn't. Jordan, Bledoe, one or two first rounders for Doc, Garnett, and wink wink -Pierce wuld have been a mega deal.  The oft discussed potential trade would have given more ligitimacy to the Clippers.  Doc, whatever one thinks of his in game coaching -is star quality.  Garnett brings Doc's defensive knowledge and his edge.

    Garnett straight across if Doc was going to LA, was okay.  The refusal to include a second first rounder by the Clippers, coupled with not taking on a contract, either reveals a lack of interest in trading, or a willingness to try to run their same squad out there and plan to do better, or shows that Mr. Sterling counts his pennies quite closely for an owner of a major franchise.

    I recognize the need to rebuild, actually remember Danny telling the story (once traded to Sacramento) of his conversation with Red Auerback about the need to trade Bird/Parish/McHale, and he ended up being traded.  I would rather go into the new season with the old guys, reunited with hopefully a healthy Rondo, and do the best the team can, then to just concede on every refusal put forth by the L.A. Clippers.  personally, I would be quite disappointed if a Clipper Fan on not getting Doc, Garnett, and possibly Pierce.

     


    Yeah. i'm really proud of Danny too. Heck of a job Danny, turning a once proud franchise into an irrelevant one.

     

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    How is getting to the ECF 3 times, the Finals twice and winning a championship in the last 6 years equal to irrelevancy?  That's better than they had done for 20 years prior. Most teams never even sniff that type of run.

    I'm not a huge fan of DA, I think he has missed out on A LOT of free agents over the years that would have helped the Celts immensly,  (Posey, JR Smith, Kmart, Birdman, Dalembert, the list goes on), but to say that he has made them "Irrelevant" isn't a reality.

     
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    In response to MrCricket's comment:

    are there any other real options for trading Rivers and KG? maybe Danny should just suck it up and take Jordan + the 1st rounder. 2013 is a great draft class and having a lotto pick + LA's pick would be a great start to the rebuilding process.



      Brooklyn is interested in KG for example.  You don't have to package Doc and KG. 

    Once  Dwight Howard decides where he wants to play, the other teams with cap space will call Danny. 

     
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    How is getting to the ECF 3 times, the Finals twice and winning a championship in the last 6 years equal to irrelevancy?  That's better than they had done for 20 years prior. Most teams never even sniff that type of run.

     

    I'm not a huge fan of DA, I think he has missed out on A LOT of free agents over the years that would have helped the Celts immensly,  (Posey, JR Smith, Kmart, Birdman, Dalembert, the list goes on), but to say that he has made them "Irrelevant" isn't a reality.

     



    The owners were responsible for Posey leaving.

     

    Not sure if JR Smith wanted to come to Boston in Feb. 2012. Avery Bradley and Ray Allen were the SGs, that meant JR Smith would just be 3rd string.

    Birdman was amnestied by the Nuggets because he investigated for child porn.

    It wasn't possible to sign Dalembert because the Celts didn't have the cap space.

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    Fierce - Wow!  Great knowledge.  I write in generalities, heart felt ones for the team, but still generalities, as I don't have this type of knowledge, or am too lazy to look it up.  I am a Yankee Fan, but have been a Celt Fan since the mid 60's.  I always enjoy the forum for the informed fans like yourself.  Thanks.

     Pertaining to Hops and making the team irrelevant.  I also enjoy people willing to state a different opinion than mine.  Causes refelction.  I don't agree with the team being irrelevant, I do agree that help is needed.  I didn't LOL, but I certainly chuckled in reading your response.  Not asking you to agree, but I think that if several of us were in the same place physically as compared to just leaving messages, the passion for the Celts, and some g rated trash talking would be fun for everyone to engage in. 

     
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    Miami didn't seem to have a problem with Birdman, and look how he is playing for them now.  Celts picked up Terry while still believing that they could get Ray back.  So how is that different than picking up the same type of player (only much better) in Smith.  

    I absolutely agree that it is really up to the owners how much is spent, and that still seems like a problem here considering how much more the Lakers, Knicks, Nets, and Heat are willing to spend to stay relevent.  If the Fakers can spend roughly 100 mil a year on players, the Celts should be able to inch a little closer to that 80mil mark IMO. So any argument toward "we couldn't because of the cap" falls on deaf ears with me.  

    Also who's to say that picking up and paying a useful veteran Center in Dalembert, which has been a GLARING hole since Perk left, isn't as important as say giving Terry, Lee, Bass, Green all very good multi year contracts.  That's all a matter of opinion.  I would rather have a team that has a solid presence in the middle, maybe some people, (celtics brass) like a smaller line-up.  

    But I was just illustrating that I am not a DA homer, far from it. I just thought it ludicrous to say that he has made the team irrelevent.  

    I however don't think it ludicrous to mention that I have wanted the Celts to get a couple players that I like, and for one reason or another it didn't happen. I think everyone has a list of guys they would have loved to see in green over the past few years.  

     

     
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    You are definately right about the Celtics wanting to stay away from problem children like Anderson.  I haven't put that instance with Dwest together with that stance.  But it makes sense. 

    I think Smith and Kmart would also fall into that catagory as well.  It's a shame when guys that are given the gifts that these men are think that they are above morality.  It is inspiring however when those guys make ammends and reward the people that didn't write them off.  Like Birdman, Rasheed, and my favorite example: Corey Dillon.

     
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    (included in another thread, put here in case people don't read the other thread)
    Talks are now back on. 

    It would be poor form perhaps, I would introduce the name of Bledsoe again. Others say that the February trade included Bledsoe, but during this round of negotiations his name was not included. If the Clippers came back, try it again.

    Minimally it should be two first round draft picks, and Lee's contract, just for being jerked around. I would guess one or the other.

    They say in baseball trades it takes a few years to know who got the better end, if young players are included. In basketball, whoever gets the top player, is usually the winner. Garnett- if healthy, is the better player next year for the Clips. We respect Garnett while knowing he is likely for an injury, or to be mnimally beat up by playoffs. The Clips (to me), will have a disappointed fan base if the trade is not made. Time to ante up Mr. Sterling

      I guess we will see fairly soon.  Sure seems as if the Celtics should be in a better negotiating sssssstate than a day ago.

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    How is getting to the ECF 3 times, the Finals twice and winning a championship in the last 6 years equal to irrelevancy?  That's better than they had done for 20 years prior. Most teams never even sniff that type of run.

     

    I'm not a huge fan of DA, I think he has missed out on A LOT of free agents over the years that would have helped the Celts immensly,  (Posey, JR Smith, Kmart, Birdman, Dalembert, the list goes on), but to say that he has made them "Irrelevant" isn't a reality.



    If you go through this thread it becomes obvious that the negative nannies are out in full force.  DA has made the franchise irrelevent.  The Celts are in a bad position.  These guys will be hard pressed to list three franchises that have done better in this period.

    This is an inevitable rebuild time and, unfortunately, this forum will be dominated by these folks for a while.

     
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    That was  much more difficult and convoluted than I imagined.  I don't know if this trade for a 2015 First is as good as could be obtained, but it is certainly more than the Clippers wanted to provide.

      Severall hopes:

    1. That Doc has every private assurance in writing. 

    2. That Doc does have some gm authority and that the transaction for Garnett can avoid the misspeaks and Donald Sterling as much as possible.

     
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    In response to REW's comment:

    Once Bledsoe was not included, the so termed "Mega Deal" wasn't. Jordan, Bledoe, one or two first rounders for Doc, Garnett, and wink wink -Pierce wuld have been a mega deal.  The oft discussed potential trade would have given more ligitimacy to the Clippers.  Doc, whatever one thinks of his in game coaching -is star quality.  Garnett brings Doc's defensive knowledge and his edge.

    Garnett straight across if Doc was going to LA, was okay.  The refusal to include a second first rounder by the Clippers, coupled with not taking on a contract, either reveals a lack of interest in trading, or a willingness to try to run their same squad out there and plan to do better, or shows that Mr. Sterling counts his pennies quite closely for an owner of a major franchise.

    I recognize the need to rebuild, actually remember Danny telling the story (once traded to Sacramento) of his conversation with Red Auerback about the need to trade Bird/Parish/McHale, and he ended up being traded.  I would rather go into the new season with the old guys, reunited with hopefully a healthy Rondo, and do the best the team can, then to just concede on every refusal put forth by the L.A. Clippers.  personally, I would be quite disappointed if a Clipper Fan on not getting Doc, Garnett, and possibly Pierce.



    Danny failed the Bird - McHale challenge. He also failed the Doc - KG test. Maybe he can get something for Rondo, and move forward. At least, he should be required to stay on until Rondo is moved and the team starts over again. When they fire him, I hope that he moves back to Utah and joins the Jazz.

     
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    In response to Jump-ball-overtime's comment:

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    Once Bledsoe was not included, the so termed "Mega Deal" wasn't. Jordan, Bledoe, one or two first rounders for Doc, Garnett, and wink wink -Pierce wuld have been a mega deal.  The oft discussed potential trade would have given more ligitimacy to the Clippers.  Doc, whatever one thinks of his in game coaching -is star quality.  Garnett brings Doc's defensive knowledge and his edge.

    Garnett straight across if Doc was going to LA, was okay.  The refusal to include a second first rounder by the Clippers, coupled with not taking on a contract, either reveals a lack of interest in trading, or a willingness to try to run their same squad out there and plan to do better, or shows that Mr. Sterling counts his pennies quite closely for an owner of a major franchise.

    I recognize the need to rebuild, actually remember Danny telling the story (once traded to Sacramento) of his conversation with Red Auerback about the need to trade Bird/Parish/McHale, and he ended up being traded.  I would rather go into the new season with the old guys, reunited with hopefully a healthy Rondo, and do the best the team can, then to just concede on every refusal put forth by the L.A. Clippers.  personally, I would be quite disappointed if a Clipper Fan on not getting Doc, Garnett, and possibly Pierce.

     



    Danny failed the Bird - McHale challenge. He also failed the Doc - KG test. Maybe he can get something for Rondo, and move forward. At least, he should be required to stay on until Rondo is moved and the team starts over again. When they fire him, I hope that he moves back to Utah and joins the Jazz.

     

     

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    What did you want him to get for Doc? Getting a first round pick is something. Why are blaming Rondo for this? Would trading Rondo make KG and Pierce younger.

     
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