Rajon Rondo to be executed at dawn

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    Rajon Rondo to be executed at dawn

    by ungrateful LOSER fan base
     
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    'Bob Cousy and Magic Johnson burned in effigy...

    ...at Rajon Rondo witch trials.  Justice Acie handed down the decision on behalf of four sports fanatics nationally whom the court termed 'seasoned and informed critics of hoops with large overall brain capacity'.  In a written addendum to the death warrant Acie repeatedly cited Rondo's refusal to develop at the pace preferred by the court.  Elderly amatuer observers Magic Johnson and Bob Cousy offered appeals and affidavits in defense of Rondo in an effort to halt the execution but were dismissed as irrelevant.  Statistical information had previously been ruled inadmissible.  Acie further stressed he gives "no special support or favor toward any team or player" and that his decsion was entirely objective.'
     
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    Rondo was just awarded the NBA's player of the week. Congrats to Rajon.
        I for one am a big Rondo fan. I'm sure happy he's a Celtic. Watching him develop from a rookie low first round pick into an allstar has been enjoyable. The best part about Rondo is he improves every season. Sure he has some weaknesses such as outside shooting and freethrows, but he's still a terrific point guard. His positives by far out weigh his negatives.
     
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    [QUOTE]by ungrateful LOSER fan base
    Posted by shines01[/QUOTE]

    Shine, the stiffs already made up their mind --- execute 'em!! BANG!
    if Rondo first in steal, in rebound, assist, points and so on night after night, does not make any difference, he still no good.
     
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    If he's as poor as what they say he is maybe a team would give up a second round pick for him?

    Seriously I think the guy plays with heart and courage. Love his play. Yes he can improve but so can every other player in the league.
     
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    you guys are really rich.  justice acie.  i have written for two years now how much i love it when rondo is "on".  the question is if he can't consistently be "all there" for the team, then why is he so crucial- just for that naughty word "potential"? 

    we are going to look back at this time period very shortly in the scope of lost chances.  with rondo feeling poorly about his game because he couldn't shoot well vs. LA last year, we lost.  he was not the only reason.  but if he did not disappear it is a surety that we are not grinding out game 7.

    how many other horrible free throw shooting PG's have the C's entertained in the last 65 years?  other than the first few years when everyone average 3.7 points a game.  i can't remember any- not because rondo needs to be executed at dawn but because his position is so important.  the controller of the team must be able to control things ALL the time for the team to do the best.

    if you call that shoot 'em @ dawn then great. 
     
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    [QUOTE]If he's as poor as what they say he is maybe a team would give up a second round pick for him? Seriously I think the guy plays with heart and courage. Love his play. Yes he can improve but so can every other player in the league.
    Posted by RUWorthy[/QUOTE]


    Show me a player that the opposition loves and I will show you a loser.

    Pud
     
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    Rajon Rondo is an excellent basketball player.  But his one significant weakness (shooting) can be exploited by a good team.  I love Rondo but today, the Celts will be a better team with Deron Williams at the helm.

    I am still waiting to see how doc moulds this team together.  And I don't want Rondo to go anywhere.  I believe that will become a better shooter, aka Dennis Johnson, as his career matures.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Rajon Rondo to be executed at dawn : Show me a player that the opposition loves and I will show you a loser. Pud
    Posted by puddinpuddin[/QUOTE]

    teehee, I also love Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen. Not to mention Kevin Durant.

    Not to mention Bill Russell who is my favourite player of all time. What does that make him?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Rajon Rondo to be executed at dawn : teehee, I also love Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen. Not to mention Kevin Durant.
    Posted by RUWorthy[/QUOTE]

    Of course you do.

    Pud
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Rajon Rondo to be executed at dawn : Of course you do. Pud
    Posted by puddinpuddin[/QUOTE]

    Add in Michael Jordan, Drexler, Hakeem, Ralph Sampson for comedy value. McHale, Joe Dumars.
     
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    point production with the players he has to play with is not that great.  Wade and Koby guarding everybody but Rondo is not that great.  His rebounding and passing at times is great, but his giving up good shots to get others worse shots is a question.  But he is the player of the week so I must not be seeing the above things happen over and over.
     
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    and for someone who is has first team all nba defensive qualities, he does not function as such every night.

    the maddening thing about rondo is that if you consider each thing of what he CAN DO, the fact that he hasn't put it all together yet in 5 years is ...... confounding.  his shot stroke has been panned as more than adequate by multiple HOF / shot experts.  so what gives?

    82 games a year plus the playoffs, he should:

    1) shut down the opposing PG with his superior quickness on offense and defense

    2) dictate tempo of a game from start to finish

    3) score at will - he is definitely a good enough scorer to possibly lead the team.  and no matter what everyone says about that not being his role, this team with the aged 3 needs MORE AND MORE from the rest of the roster.  imagine if rondo tossed in 16 or 17 a night EVERY night and shut down his counter part EVERY night, like he easily could. 

    the aged 3 would have to work less and have the best chances of having something left for the playoffs.  if ray and kg played 27 minutes a game because rondo was leading blowouts so many nights this year they didn't HAVE to play any longer we would have the BEST chance of winning it all, against all odds of aging in the nba.

    4) lead the league in steals by a COUNTRY MILE- if rondo utilized his superior quickness and hands with more sound defenisve basics (read: cut down on the gambling) he could probably average 3.5 to 4 steals a game all season long

    5) be a good enought threat for ALL FOUR quarters of the game to keep defenses honest on his outside shot and NEVER put his game to sleep for fear of free throws

    if 1-5 are true then rondo becomes not only the best point guard in the league but i'd say an mvp candidate.  coaches across the nation would be faced wth trying to find extraordinary solutions for one of the biggest pests in an opposing uniform they have likely seen play ever.  and if other teams start making special adjustments to try to stop rondo, the aged 3 are still savvy and able enough to exploit those changes and be presented with easier scoring opportunites than ever after rondo and the team break down the special adjustments for rondo. 

    THAT is how much i think of who you say i think should be executed @ dawn. 

    if rondo simply completes his game and trims his ego down so that his efforts are consistent in all facets of the game, this team gets so much better it's not even funny. 

    however, if rondo is on course to mature when DJ did, at age 28, then he is no good to this team. 

    or, if you're willing to unconditionally wait around that long, you're admitting to yourself that this season is being played for naught.  we have no chance w/o a consistent scoring threat of a point guard.  once rondo began hibernating in the lakers series it was so hard to watch our guys have to struggle through a fast handed kobe sagging and cheating on D.  it sank our team.

    so it's your choice, i want to win now- it's our best chance compared to coming off a rebuild.  and i don't care what rondo becomes later.  i need him all here now.  if he isn't by the trading deadline, i'd seriously entertain a trade for a point guard who might not be as fast or flashy, but could get the all around job done. 
     
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    [QUOTE]and for someone who is has first team all nba defensive qualities, he does not function as such every night. the maddening thing about rondo is that if you consider each thing of what he CAN DO, the fact that he hasn't put it all together yet in 5 years is ...... confounding.  his shot stroke has been panned as more than adequate by multiple HOF / shot experts.  so what gives? 82 games a year plus the playoffs, he should: 1) shut down the opposing PG with his superior quickness on offense and defense 2) dictate tempo of a game from start to finish 3) score at will - he is definitely a good enough scorer to possibly lead the team.  and no matter what everyone says about that not being his role, this team with the aged 3 needs MORE AND MORE from the rest of the roster.  imagine if rondo tossed in 16 or 17 a night EVERY night and shut down his counter part EVERY night, like he easily could.  the aged 3 would have to work less and have the best chances of having something left for the playoffs.  if ray and kg played 27 minutes a game because rondo was leading blowouts so many nights this year they didn't HAVE to play any longer we would have the BEST chance of winning it all, against all odds of aging in the nba. 4) lead the league in steals by a COUNTRY MILE- if rondo utilized his superior quickness and hands with more sound defenisve basics (read: cut down on the gambling) he could probably average 3.5 to 4 steals a game all season long 5) be a good enought threat for ALL FOUR quarters of the game to keep defenses honest on his outside shot and NEVER put his game to sleep for fear of free throws if 1-5 are true then rondo becomes not only the best point guard in the league but i'd say an mvp candidate.  coaches across the nation would be faced wth trying to find extraordinary solutions for one of the biggest pests in an opposing uniform they have likely seen play ever.  and if other teams start making special adjustments to try to stop rondo, the aged 3 are still savvy and able enough to exploit those changes and be presented with easier scoring opportunites than ever after rondo and the team break down the special adjustments for rondo.  THAT is how much i think of who you say i think should be executed @ dawn.  if rondo simply completes his game and trims his ego down so that his efforts are consistent in all facets of the game, this team gets so much better it's not even funny.  however, if rondo is on course to mature when DJ did, at age 28, then he is no good to this team.  or, if you're willing to unconditionally wait around that long, you're admitting to yourself that this season is being played for naught.  we have no chance w/o a consistent scoring threat of a point guard.  once rondo began hibernating in the lakers series it was so hard to watch our guys have to struggle through a fast handed kobe sagging and cheating on D.  it sank our team. so it's your choice, i want to win now- it's our best chance compared to coming off a rebuild.  and i don't care what rondo becomes later.  i need him all here now.  if he isn't by the trading deadline, i'd seriously entertain a trade for a point guard who might not be as fast or flashy, but could get the all around job done. 
    Posted by aciemvp[/QUOTE]

    What Rondo did with Team USA by withdrawing late in the face of getting axed is the perfect metaphor for what he does frequently (against the Lakers in the 2010 finals for example) when he begins to disconnect from the contest or series and shuts down/loses his confidence for fear of having to confront his all-to-obvious (but not to himself, of course) demon.  He can't shoot!

    Acie calls it "hibernate." Its basically quitting the competition to protect his ego from a threat that he simply cannot handle, the threat of being forced to confront his shortcoming... that He can't shoot.

    He turned the Team USA venture (about which he suddenly had deep ambivalence???) over to his teammates for completion and disappeared just like he does when he flips the ball to CPP late in the game and he and his swagger similarly disappear.

    It is the flip side of the strutting, dominating, hotdoggin',tash-talkin', ultra confident, open court magician that we frequently see playing PG in the  first half of ballgames but who inexplicably transforms himself when needed the most, when the game is on the line... into a ghost/spectator... to avoid having to confront the reality that.... He simply cannot shoot.

    Until he screws up the courage to confront his demons, instead of running away, there is little chance that Rondo will grow as a player into his full potential.

    Pud
     
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    Pud,

    Very well said.  Acie good job setting the table.  On Acie's number 3, Rondo scored 18 and we lost.  Something to consider.

    He has to shoot!!!  He can get 50 assists in the next 3 games;  it won't matter.  He has to shoot.  There is no place in history for him if he doesn't shoot.  The evebtuality is last year's Lakers series.  He's our best player, but can't do the Cedric Maxwell thing.

    At very least, he has to make free throws.  If he can do that he can at least get to the line and then he could carry us home.  Until then???

    PA
     
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    another day at the salt mines for the scorned celtics fan.

     
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    He has to shoot?  For a guy whom most agree is a poor shooter, this strategy seems flawed.

    Wilt couldnt shoot  from the field or FT line either. Rondo and Doc can find ways for him to be effective when defenses fade off him... like Barkely says, Rondo takes the space they give him which forces a defender or dbl team... just hes not consistent doing it.

    Defensively, Im from another school. Yea, I like Rondos steals and pestering but I dont like him defensively overall.  He gets steals cause he gambles alot, swiping from behind etc. Wonder what the ratio is of attempted steals vs players getting by him for a bucket or assist?

    Also, and Ive said this many times, Rondo is just too easily picked off. He refuses to fight through most of the time and it kills us. Watch Nate... he almost never gets picked off.. he fights thru and if he gets clipped, he hustles to his player before its too late. Rondo simply cannot or will not do this.

    Dont get me wrong, overall Rondo is the engine to this team..period. Every player has weaknesses and they must learn to compensate for them. Rondo's shooting & weak defense (imo) is his..

    Would I trade him now for D Williams? No way! DW is surely a better all around player but youre rolling the dice he can get to speed with our offense & defense on the fly. Heck, vets cant even do that through an entire training camp.

    Doc knows if ROndo has it in him to be a decent shooter. If he does, he muct insist he take good, open shots. The more he shoots, the less pressure hes gonna feel  when they start droppin. He can hit jumpers, we've seen it.. but the lack of them going up more often puts pressure on his shot. I feel it even when he makes a 3... thinking to myself the other team must be pissed that Rondo got lucky..
     
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    The defense can't take everything away. They have to give you something. When Rondo hits a mid-range jumper or a three, the opposition can easily live with that. Rondo beat the odds. It happens sometimes.

    When the slots payoff, the casino can easily live with the occasional payout. They know that the percentages are still very much on the house side.

    Same with Rondo beating me by making a shot. If I am a defender, I am much more concerned about CPP or RA beating me than a "moot point PG."
     
    So I play Rondo to pass... until he convinces me to do otherwise.

    Pud

     
     
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    Stupid analogy---slot machine can have 50 or more symbols on a reel, giving odds as high as 300 million to 1 against – does not make sense to compare Rondo's woes. 
    Stiff made up his mine and no compromise....right or wrong.
     
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    [QUOTE]Dont get me wrong, overall Rondo is the engine to this team..period. Every player has weaknesses and they must learn to compensate for them. Rondo's shooting & weak defense (imo) is his.. Would I trade him now for D Williams? No way! Posted by Karllost[/QUOTE]

    THIS is the very mind set that i don't understand.  i will concede that perhaps the celts (if they posess a win NOW) approach, are too late in making a change.  i was astonished when the problematic jumper/ft shooting young man was extended 5 years.  perhaps that was when we should have divested from him.

    the simple fact remains that aged "potential" transforms into fool's gold at some point.  IF rondo does not come around in time for this year's playoffs, we have a lump of fool's gold.  his perceived 'value" in a a trade scenario will not remain anything if his FT% hovers @ 60%.  maybe mike d'antonio would give up something to get him for his "system" but who else WANTS a bricker of a PG? 

    i just keep hoping, with ever decreasing emotional investment that "this is the year" for not-so-young rondo.  but my primary hope is that this team finds the best PG for late season success, and our current one is not it in his current form.
     
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    Just curious.

     Do some of you guys who are so down on Rondo enjoy watching Celtic games?  Is every game an agony of what Rondo can't do?

    Yes, Rondo can't shoot but I really enjoy watching him and one of the reasons I get a kick out of it is because he can't shoot and is still so effective.

    Rondo's not going any where--at least this season.  Kick back and enjoy the show.


     
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    [QUOTE]Just curious.  Do some of you guys who are so down on Rondo enjoy watching Celtic games?  Posted by pliu[/QUOTE]

    Interesting question indeed. I thoroughly enjoyed watching Rondo and the Big Three during the 2007-8 season. Since then, the enjoyment for me has declined as the team has come to reflect and accommodate Rondo's personality and skill set  more and more.

    I love watching great Celtic D much more so than what happens at the offensive end... particularly when the offense stagnates in the half court game or Rondo is turning down shots. That sends me right over the edge as I scream at the TV. That's painful.

    I look forward eagerly to DWest running the team at crunch time. That might be very intriguing for me since I really like Delonte.

    Pud
     
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    "That might be very intriguing for me since I really like Delonte."

    Posted by puddinpuddin[/QUOTE]

    I KNEW you were Lebrawwwns momma!  I just knew it!
     
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    [QUOTE]Rondo was just awarded the NBA's player of the week. Congrats to Rajon.     I for one am a big Rondo fan. I'm sure happy he's a Celtic. Watching him develop from a rookie low first round pick into an allstar has been enjoyable. The best part about Rondo is he improves every season. Sure he has some weaknesses such as outside shooting and freethrows, but he's still a terrific point guard. His positives by far out weigh his negatives.
    Posted by mem17[/QUOTE]

    Where has he improved at?
     
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    I look forward eagerly to DWest running the team at crunch time. That might be very intriguing for me since I really like Delonte.

    phew! thank you, puddinpuddin. you crushed that one. more please.


    Where has he improved at?

    mem17, please hurry and get back w/ oldtimer so we can see where he's going w/ such a question.

     
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