Re: Re up BBD now!
posted at 12/19/2010 4:49 PM EST
In Response to Re: Re up BBD now!
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Re up BBD now! : I notice you didn't respond to my points about him missing time because he was injured and missed significant time because he was fighting with a friend or that this off season he complained about not knowing what is role was.
Posted by Icon11[/QUOTE]
so sorry. did not mean to cut out the heart of your arguement. if i didn't respond to it then i find it to be a non-issue, but we'll go through it.
YES, davis made a dumb move when he punched back at his friend and broke his thumb. NO, it was by no means worse than having to watch sheed on his MINUTE ENTITLEMENT PROGRAM all of last year. If Davis had loafed or in discriminately bricked for 2 minutes of what Sheed did all of last year, he probably would have been D-leauge bound but definitely BENCHED. Sheed could not seem to achieve the pine splinter though- how odd!! For what we got out of sheed, it wasn't worth it. For what we got out of, and continue to get out of Davis, an off court set back like the thumb is bad but not a reason to give up on the guy.
It is my particular opinion that Doc is a difficult coach for a young player to break in with unless your name is rondo and you have ainge's foot up your back side to hand him the starting role. The Celts haven't always given davis a fair shot, Doc has been quick to criticize and shake his head, and then out of the other side of his mouth he runs sheed non-stop for 28 minutes a game of horrible, lazy, lead evaporating, barfe inducing play.
So I don't really see how that all squares up- I think Davis' 'bad reputation' lives largely in doc's head and was a convenient way for Doc to hold him back. When both Powe and Davis were on the team together, things never made much sense to me. Davis mopped the floor with the Pistons in a crucial game his rookie year and then was promptly buried back onto the bench to prevent any more freak accidents like that from happening- at least it seemed to me.
And all the while the Rondo's and the Sheed's can almost never get benched or criticized no matter how much they loaf, brick or blunder. There ARE two standards at play here- and I think you'd be remiss not to recognize it. It is what it is- and it should be taken into consideration when filtering all of the inconsequential reputation dust that has been kicked up about Davis in the last few years.
And as for "now knowing what his role was"- I'd say that was a stupid thing to say, and beyond that, who cares. I think the best thing about Davis is that his role is amorphous from game to game- sometimes you need him to tick off and push around Nene, Bynum or Howard and other times you need him to be more of a 4 and maybe he is best when he's all of everything, including defensive havoc-maker. He may at his soul-searching-est-most-self-focused moment find that to be a little bit professionally unfulfilling, but I did not see any lasting consequneces of what he said that day.
So, that is the long way of saying (and why) that I don't give any credence to the knocks of Davis' maturity and his 20 second dumb sound bite in front of a microphone this season. I would credit that dumb sound bite probably more to Doc not having said anything to him about how his role was going to change with TWO NEW veteran bigs on the roster than anything else and that would be typical Doc when it comes to Davis- crap on him and then gladly harvest the benefits when they come in, now on a nightly basis.
I mean honestly, if you were Davis and you saw how horrendous it was to play with Sheed last year, wouldn't you be wondering with TWO new vet bigs on the roster? I would be. And no, he still shouldn't have said it into a microphone.
And if you want to go back to "Davis cried because of KG" then i'd also put that down as a non-event. Why? Becuase when the whistle blows and the ball is live, this kid has done NOTHING but try his very hardest and achieve important things for this team to enable winning and his contriubtions are ever growing in breadth and magnitude from year to year. You just don't find players IN THIS DAY AND AGE who are willing to give up their body, role (from night to night) and everything they can for the cause of winning like Davis does.
I think that covers it.