Re: Rondo being Rondo
posted at 4/19/2011 4:30 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Rondo being Rondo
I agree somewhat with your theory A.C. but I just wanna know, are you a fan of Tony Allen? As he would present the same problem of not being able to shoot and is a worst shooter than Rondo, so although he makes us for it with defense, he doesnt give you 10 assists or 10 rebounds like Rondo does....I could understand your point more if Rondo didnt dominate everywhere else, but he scored 10 pts in the 1st half , grabbed 9 boards and assists...What else is he supposed to do. Out of 5 guys on the court starting, he is filling up the stat sheet more than anyone else...
Posted by JayShizzle45
i was a fan of tony allen. but you are comparing apples to hot air baloons. tony allen was not a starter. he really is not a starter in any notion of the idea on a contending team.
therefore, people like tony allen, glen davis can get away with having holes in their game becuase the produce in unlikely spurts and over-achieve given their ability and level of expectations for what they do. that over-achievment is temporary in nature for both players.
try to extrapolate that into a starting role and the results are likely not going to be good, for a top contender, even many middling teams. tony allen did the same thing rondo did in game 1 in the grizz series. he was terrible one half and only showed up offensively the last 6 minutes of the game, also with intense defense.
allen, davis, rondo share a general guttyness and grit, although i see it evaporate for stretches most often in rondo, particularly this season. all three don't have complete skill sets for their positions but get away with it except for rondo because he is on the floor so much as a starter.
37 clicks a game makes a world of difference. hard to hide warts. it can be done creatively. what i am saying is that tempo-wise we died in game 1. this is going to be a short playoffs if we are digging 13 point holes to climb out of.
these guys have to figure out a way to cloak rondo's warts, and i say it's more tempo, not necessarily run/gun but push push push. and rondo for his part has to get off his @ss and learn to shoot, be consistently aggressive, etc if he ever aspires to achieve greatness. i am beginning to worry that he already has achieved greatness in his own mind. few other things would explain the FT miserableness and timidity this year. he and biedrins had a nearly identical trajectory in falloff of FTA.
lastly, i don't believe the notion that rondo "dominates everywhere else". he CAN
dominate everywhere else because of his physical gifts, but takes too many nights and plays off defensively and gambles too much.
so he's got warts (shooting, not aggressive all the time) and he creates another big one by over-gambling for steals and his pick and roll defense is well below average, often times un-aggressive. i have said on this board that it is my firm belief that if he bent the legs and played avery bradley style pest defense that he would cause infinitely more difficulties for the opposing teams. only sporadically do we actually see this done.
perhaps my largest frustration with rondo is the observation that his actions for portions of the regular season give the appearance that he is coasting, when given his need to get a full skill set in hand, he should be working all the time. sort of the twon walker "i'm a veteran all star" approach, or "bored" with the game, whatever it is, there is no good excuse for it.
it's a question of give and take. rondo gave away too much in game 1 b/t the sloggy first half and then the sloppy plays late, nearly cost us the game. we need much better focus. if avery bradley can torch douglas for 22 points, then rondo can tear the guy to pieces too, probably in every facet of the game. we need that for game 2. we need a decisive win to take the notion out of NY's mind that they can hang with us through 7 games.
so i guess i'm of the school of though that rondo can get a near triple double and there can still be a lot left to improve upon. he sprays some lysol on the act with the extra rebounding. sometimes it's steals. sometimes it's first rate quarterbacking. but it should NEVER be two turnovers late in a game like that or allowing the first half to be played in molasses.