Re: RONDO FACTS, NO OPINION ADDED
posted at 3/6/2013 5:21 PM EST
In response to sinus007's comment:
In response to RallyC's comment:
From the 2007-2008 season to today, the Celtics are 34-18 (.654pct) all-time without Rajon Rondo. Thats a pretty legit, 52-game sample size. During this season alone, the Celtics are now 14-7 (.666pct) without RR. So, this season's recent winning trend is only slight higher than what our 52-game all time sample has proven out over the years. With RR playing this season, we were 18-20 (.473), RR missed 5-games due to league mandated suspensions. Based on these historical FACTS/trends, even if the C's play below the normal "without RR"(.654pct), and only play at a winning pct of .652, the C's would still go 15-8 (.652pct) bringing them to a season record of 47-35. I'd say that is good for at least the 4th seed in the E-CONF. If they never had RR this season and as a result played even lower at only .648pct for the year, they would be 53-29. Science is based on fact and probabilities. Based on this historical data, without RR this season, we would have been battling for the #1 seed in the EC. Again, not my opinion, only facts and logical assumptions based on statistical evidence. This is a clear example of what is meant by "adding by subtraction." don't be angry if you don't agree. These are the simple FACTS.
I'm sorry, but you conflate facts with stats.
Fact: Celtics won championship in 2008. Fact: they did it in 6 games against LAL. Fact: Celtics lost to Mia in ECF in 7 games last year. Fact: RR has more triple-doubles than Lebron in playoffs.
As for your stats, as most of real life stats, yours have holes that you can drive semi through. E.g., your 52-games sample doesn't take in consideration such simple things as there were different Celtics players and different opponents.
What you say is BS. We measure the succuss of a player based on their statistical production AND how much influence those individual stats have on the successes and failure of the TEAM. By all stat analysis concerning RR's play with the C's, the C's win games at a higher percentage rate without him than when he plays in any given game. Regardless of what you say about RR's individual stats/triple doubles, they only impact one game each, not the outcomes of the other games he plays in. The effect is demoralizing to the others on the TEAM. You never know what you're gonna get from the guy and he fluctuates as badly as any payer we've seen. Go by wins and losses relevant to his participation or lack there of, and it is crystal clear where the issues are/were.