Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 11:28 AM EST
- Fiercest34
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Amnesty who? Gasol. Then your team is literally Paul Pierce and nobody. Amnesty Pierce. It's Gasol with nobody making 15+ million a year. If you talking trading KG for Gasol which nobody with a brain would do it makes some sense for now and the future but that isn't happening.
Posted by tompenny
Lakers will not trade Gasol for KG.
F - Gasol
F - KG
SF - Pierce
SG - Ray
PG - Dooling or new acquistion
6th - Bass
That line-up is built to win now.
Try defending 5 guys who can score and shoot. Opposing teams can't double team with a line-up like that.
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 11:42 AM EST
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How does that roster help you going forward? You do realize Ainge already tried to get a much cheaper undersized verios of that with David West right? Nobody want's JO's contract.
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 11:47 AM EST
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In Response to Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either : Even OKC wouldn't do that trade anymore. Unless Westbrook and Scott Brooks will be at odds again.
Posted by Fiercest34
OR:
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/217898/Westbrook_Durant_Have_To_Be_Separated_After_Altercation
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 11:48 AM EST
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How does that roster help you going forward? You do realize Ainge already tried to get a much cheaper undersized verios of that with David West right? Nobody want's JO's contract.
Posted by tompenny
JO has an expiring contract. The Lakers are looking to dump salary, that's why they traded Gasol to Houston.
Pau Gasol is way better than David West. West doesn't block shots and is not a great rebounder like Gasol.
Whether we win a championship this season or not, after this season we will be bad for the next 3-5 years, depending on the draft picks we get. So let's try to win now.
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 11:50 AM EST
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They trade Gasol to Houston to land CP3. In which Stern Nixed that multi team deal. What are you talking about?
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 11:51 AM EST
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That's also a good deal. The question is will OKC do it?
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 11:52 AM EST
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They trade Gasol to Houston to land CP3. In which Stern Nixed that multi team deal. What are you talking about?
Posted by tompenny
What I meant was the Lakers are trying to dump salary, that's why they tried to trade him to Houston.
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 12:00 PM EST
It's a nice idea......................but it's the LAKERS, man, we can't make a trade with them!! Don't trust Mitch anyway!
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 12:03 PM EST
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It's a nice idea......................but it's the LAKERS, man, we can't make a trade with them!! Don't trust Mitch anyway!
Posted by Red-16Russ-11
Maybe in the 80s. But in this decade and with Jimmy calling the shots, I don't think that's necessarily true.
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 12:26 PM EST
0-3
Panic!!! Blame everyone...
But not Rondo. He was out there yanking the cord on an engine that wouldn't start. He could have (and maybe should have) gone Allen Iverson out there and just shot it everytime. But that's not who he is.
Ray can still shoot, Garnett still has the heart of a lion... but, well...you know...Father Time won't be denied. The rest of the team are cast offs.
Travel and back to back? What did you think? Throw this game out.
Quit dumping on number nine. This is our guy!
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 1:03 PM EST
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The question is why didn't we go after Odom when he went on sale. If that trade could have been made we would be in a much better position right now.
If they would trade with the Mavs a team who swept them in May why not us.
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 1:06 PM EST
Over the first three games Rondo, except for the turnovers, has the stats of a superstar. Fg%, 3pt.fg%, ppg., stls., assists, rbs., are all excellant for the pg position. Give the guy a break. If the Celtics need to rebuild, and its still to early to tell, he is the guy to build around. He is still young. In any case, put shooters around him. But so far this year, he is shooting much better anyway.
Dud and Pud, your club, the Rondo haters is growing. Don't push the panic button yet, people. The Celtics may or may not have a problem. But Rondo is not to blame. He is only human. You can't expect him to be perfect. McCale, Bird and the Chief occasionally made mistakes too. If Rondo's turnovers, per 32 min., are a little high, it is because he is trying to do too much. Most everything else is super.
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 1:09 PM EST
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The question is why didn't we go after Odom when he went on sale. If that trade could have been made we would be in a much better position right now. If they would trade with the Mavs a team who swept them in May why not us.
Posted by concord27
We don't have the cap space to accomodate Odom's 8.9m. The Mavs got a trade exception when Chandler signed with NY.
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 1:10 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either : What I meant was the Lakers are trying to dump salary, that's why they tried to trade him to Houston.
Posted by Fiercest34
No, they traded him to Houston for CP3! Not to dump salary.
Ugh!!
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 1:12 PM EST
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Over the first three games Rondo, except for the turnovers, has the stats of a superstar. Fg%, 3pt.fg%, ppg., stls., assists, rbs., are all excellant for the pg position. Give the guy a break. If the Celtics need to rebuild, and its still to early to tell , he is the guy to build around. He is still young. In any case, put shooters around him. But so far this year, he is shooting much better anyway. Dud and Pud, your club, the Rondo haters is growing. Don't push the panic button yet, people. The Celtics may or may not have a problem. But Rondo is not to blame. He is only human. You can't expect him to be perfect. McCale, Bird and the Chief occasionally made mistakes too. If Rondo's turnovers are a little high, it is because he is trying to do too much. Everything else is super.
Posted by cavaliersfan
This is not about blaming or hating on Rondo. This is about saving the season. Rondo is playing great basketball? Then that means we can get a player like Pau Gasol for Rondo. That immediately solves the Celts rebounding and inside scoring threat problem.
The Celts did it in 2008, Cassell, House, and Rondo as PGs resulted in a championship. At that time Rondo would sit a lot late in the 4th qtr.
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 1:16 PM EST
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Let me add by saying if the Lakers got away with it, trading Gasol and Odom for CP3, the Buss family would have saved roughly 22 million dollars. Ugh!
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 1:20 PM EST
Cassell carried Doc's clipboard, House let it fly. It didn't matter because Pierce was at the top of his game and Garnett and Ray were still good.
Rondo sitting at the beginning of the 4th, this year, has been a problem. Dooling may be a 2, but he's not a 1.
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 1:24 PM EST
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Let me add by saying if the Lakers got away with it, trading Gasol and Odom for CP3, the Buss family would have saved roughly 22 million dollars. Ugh!
Posted by Fiercest34
Which is WHY the trade was vetoed, dont' you think? That, and the fact Bynum was not included. I think if either Bynum was included, or the lakers took Okafor in the deal, then Paul would be a laker right now!! But, the small market owners do not want to see a team just make a salary dump like that AND get better at the same time.......those days are over!!
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 1:27 PM EST
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Let me add by saying if the Lakers got away with it, trading Gasol and Odom for CP3, the Buss family would have saved roughly 22 million dollars. Ugh!
Posted by Fiercest34
Did you ever consider that this deal was the going to be tied in with being able to sign DH as well? Duh!
Ugh.
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 1:29 PM EST
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Cassell carried Doc's clipboard, House let it fly. It didn't matter because Pierce was at the top of his game and Garnett and Ray were still good. Rondo sitting at the beginning of the 4th, this year, has been a problem. Dooling may be a 2, but he's not a 1.
Posted by MrJohnnyMost
Like I said, Rondo is not bad, we just need an upgrade. Rondo will not solve the rebounding and inside scoring threat problem. It's embarrasing to average just 35 rebounds per game when you have a 7-foot KG and a 6-11 JO.
Everything is from the outside now, Ray for 3, Dooling for 3, Bass outside jumper, and KG outside jumper all the time.
No rebounds, no rings.
Championships are won in the paint.
If you want to be just a playoff team without home court advantage even in the 1st round then this is your team.
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 1:31 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either : Did you ever consider that this deal was the going to be tied in with being able to sign DH as well? Duh! Ugh.
Posted by null
Every one knew that, genius, and that is ANOTHER reason why it was vetoed. Mitch was really stupid to announce to the world they wanted both, then try to make the trade while all the owners were still in NY!! Really bone-headed moves on his part!!
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 3:20 PM EST
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Can Celtics just pencil in Austin Rivers and get it over with...
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 3:21 PM EST
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In Response to Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either : This is not about blaming or hating on Rondo. This is about saving the season. Rondo is playing great basketball? Then that means we can get a player like Pau Gasol for Rondo. That immediately solves the Celts rebounding and inside scoring threat problem. The Celts did it in 2008, Cassell, House, and Rondo as PGs resulted in a championship. At that time Rondo would sit a lot late in the 4th qtr.
Posted by Fiercest34
you saying a trade of Rondo for Pau Gasol shows just how little you know about basketball. Gasol is a GOOD, not great rebounder, and a great shooter from inside the 3 line. but his defense is not that great. he is soft. he is the opposite of what our defense is about. Rondo, on the other hand, is an IMPROVING shooter, with upside still! not to mention he calls the plays on the court, always has everyone where they are supposed to be, and creates easy jump shots for an AGING big three. u keep thinking we can win with any pg just bc they did it in 08, but wat u are failing to realize is that in 2008 we had paul pierce and ray allen playing at the top of their games, and KG was only the defensive player in the year and finished top 3 for MVP. they arent the same players anymore, therefore we cant expect them to do any better with LESS talent. the Lakers would gladly trade Rondo for Gasol bc it makes them better and us worse.
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 5:28 PM EST
One interesting development is that Westbrook and Durant had a pretty big blowout last night. Expect Ainge to get on the phone about trading Rondo for Westbrook
Re: Rondo is Not the Answer Either
posted at 12/29/2011 5:36 PM EST
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westbrook has served up two premium turkeys in three games. wonder how well that would play for this crowd.
