Re: Rondo Trade Idea
posted at 11/17/2013 12:42 PM EST
In response to RallyC's comment:
In response to R9R's comment:
BOS: Knight, Ridnour, Defino, Giannis, Udoh, Middleton, 2014 Bucks 1st, Asik
MIL: Rondo, Brooks, Wallace, Bass
Bucks Line-up: more likely a playoff team (8th seed)
Rondo / Neal / Wolters
Mayo / Brooks
Butler / Wallace
Bass / Henson
Sanders / Pachulia
Celtics 2014 lineup: (Udoh, Ridnour, Humphries, Bogans expire)
Knight (2.8), Pressey (.5), Crawford, 2014 Bucks pick
Bradley, Delfino (3.3), Lee (5) 2014 Nets pick
Green (9), Giannis (2), 2014 Celtics pick
Sullinger (2), Olynyk(2), Middleton (.8)
Asik (15), Favarani (2)
Thats like a $45M payroll going into 2014, certainly enough to extend bradley and go after an RFA (*cough* hayward *cough*). Our big man rotation is pretty solid. Danny surely loves the potential oozing out of Giannis. Middleton is decent and Knight could make a jump to become a solid shooting backup PG in the league. We dump Wallace and Bass salary, while turning Rondo into another potential lottery pick. Delfino & Udoh are hurt for the season so it helps the Bucks without helping the Celtics much. I don't like giving up Rondo, but a deal like this would certainly be enough for me.
I had to use Sanders for Delfino in the machine because he was a FA, untradable before Dec 15
Well, I never thought I'd see the day when you got serious about ways for trading your namesake young fella. You have obviously moved past saying 'Rondo is a Celtic and he won't be traded.' to this. OK, it also apears that you have evoled from the emotional attachment, and so I will reciprocate and move past picking on you constantly and stick to talking about how BEST to capilaize on Rajon Rondo whether a Celtic or not. As for your trade idea, it sounds pretty attractive. Whether or not the NBA has restrictions for such a massive overhaul and transaction would be a big question. Even if the numbers match, would it too big of a deal to approve?
The bias of your own perspective. I have never, ever said that Rondo would not be traded. I do not share that emotional attachment that supercedes reason. I've always thought, and still do, that the right path is to use this year to build around Rondo, but that doesn't mean there aren't alternative paths. Trading Rondo is a serious option, one that may make sense.
My thinking above is that at the current pace, the Celtics pick will be in the top10, hopefully top 5. The way the Nets have struggled so far make me hopeful that their pick could be as high as 20. Trading Rondo to the perenial "win"-now Bucks would help them sneak into that 8th seed which they are really struggling at right now (2-7) without giving up Sanders, Henson or Mayo. However, they still may slip. I think their pick could easily fall somewhere between 10-20. If we deal Rondo, we absolutely need to look for a replacement PG in this draft. Smart would be an excellent choice, but I'm not sold on using a top5 pick on him, yet. Hopefully we will be in a position to draft Jabari parker with our pick and potentially use the Bucks & Nets picks to move up into that 8-10 range and grab an elite PG.
Either way, we've seen some productivity out of Crawford & Pressey. They can be solid backup PGs. Knight could develop, thats a third option. My opion is that as solid as Rondo is, this league is getting very heavy in PGs, so I'd rather focus on attaining an elite SF who can compete with the Lebrons and Georges of the world. I think the 2014 team above is perfect. All young, good players. Nothing rotting. Noone who is clearly not part of the future. The only lingering veteran salary would be Delfino, Green and Lee. All three can be either movable or productive.
The question is, are the Bucks willing to give so much for Rondo. Thinking back over it, I may not include Middleton in the trade, that may be one piece too many for the Celtics.