Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
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Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/20/2010 7:51 AM EDT
I mentioned this in my report yesterday on the feud/pending divorce between Rudy Fernandez and the Portland Trail Blazers, but it belongs in the lead paragraph for this site: The Knicks are among the teams trying to acquire the Spanish shooting guard, and they have offered Wilson Chandler. Other offers on the table include the Boston Celtics and Chicago Bulls each offering a No. 1 draft pick in 2011, a league source told ESPN.com. ESPN.comIt seems that they still try to get fernandez. I just don't know how we can match the offer from the knicks or the Bulls' pick. -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/20/2010 8:34 AM EDT
If I were Ainge I would throw in Quis and the 2011 #1 pick. The Bulls offer isn't that much better because they will be in the playoffs as well.
We could afford to give up Quis because they both essentially play the same position. -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/20/2010 9:33 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez:If I were Ainge I would throw in Quis and the 2011 #1 pick. The Bulls offer isn't that much better because they will be in the playoffs as well. We could afford to give up Quis because they both essentially play the same position.
Posted by BiasLewis
Nobody wanted Quis as a FA, so I doubt he has any trade value -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/20/2010 10:13 AM EDT
Where did you get the idea Rudy is this good? I want a SG but not by overpaying to a player who is hardly a sure thing. -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/20/2010 11:14 AM EDT
Celtics ain't gonna get this guy!
Knicks & bulls has plenty to offer. -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/20/2010 11:39 AM EDT
The way this team is structured I'm not sure a #1 pick is worth anything. If you figure most of the team will be here for 2 years and DOc doesn't play rookies, the 2011 pick has little value. Rudy may be able to help right now.
He's not the greatest but when you include him with the sum of the parts, he'd do very well. -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/20/2010 11:39 AM EDT
Ainge should do it. He doesn't know what to do with 1st round picks anyway. great pic Super77 -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/20/2010 12:34 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez:The way this team is structured I'm not sure a #1 pick is worth anything. If you figure most of the team will be here for 2 years and DOc doesn't play rookies, the 2011 pick has little value. Rudy may be able to help right now. He's not the greatest but when you include him with the sum of the parts, he'd do very well.
Posted by BiasLewis
Great point. We didnt get much value for Bill Walker. -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/20/2010 1:50 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez:In Response to Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez : Great point. We didnt get much value for Bill Walker.
Posted by Drewski5
Who knows how important nate will be for the c's this year. -
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Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/20/2010 4:41 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez:Forget Fernandez we need a wing player and need one badly have enough at his height unless we can unload Quis for him and then get our wing
Posted by damfuno
Why not add another young talented player and have more chips to trade with for that elusive wing? -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/20/2010 6:14 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez:If I were Ainge I would throw in Quis and the 2011 #1 pick. The Bulls offer isn't that much better because they will be in the playoffs as well. We could afford to give up Quis because they both essentially play the same position.
Posted by BiasLewisThe Celtics can't trade Daniels until after Dec. 15. -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/20/2010 6:45 PM EDT
Who's this wing? Michael Finley? There is no available wing who's worth it.
The realistic choices are Fernandez, Hughes or West. Fernadez is BY FAR the one with the most ability and potential. Hughes is a mixed bag of question marks, and always has been. West has ability and character issues.
They'll be lucky to get Rudy. -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/20/2010 11:01 PM EDT
Harangody will be PP's back up! He has the body to play both the SF/PF and that will leave Wafer and Quis too play RA's back up. They don't need Fernandez. Good luck to both the Bulls and the Knicks... -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/21/2010 4:36 AM EDT
Harangody might see action IF he shows he can play D. Let's not be fooled by the Summer League.
The Knicks are pretty much out of it, they have no picks to offer. Portland is said to wants picks. It all depends on what the C's and Bulls are willing to give up besides next years #1. I think it will be Chi.
The guy the C's should not have gone after is Wafer. Rudy is far and away better, Delonte is better, and most nights even Hughes is better. As is, they might as well change his name to DNP. They do have an open roster spot and there is a very good chance that player will see more action than Von. -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/21/2010 10:53 AM EDT
Good point about summer league. I'm not high on Goody solely because of Orlando,he has produced being doubled,tripled and dual zoned. He is not your typical create his own shot player. If memory serves me right the reason PP wasn't drafted higher was because some scouts didn't think he could keep up with atheletic sfs. He reminds me of a taller stronger nastier Alex English,he has a sneaky double double game. Fernandez would be great addition,though I've never been a fan of trading future picks. MD was doing ok before he got hurt. I think was overwhelmed by the multiple roles he was expected to cover. I like Fernandez,but I would like to see GFoody and Q get shots at filling the role the first half of the season and if it doesn't seem to be working then trade at the deadline for a backup. -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/21/2010 4:47 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez:Harangody might see action IF he shows he can play D. Let's not be fooled by the Summer League. The Knicks are pretty much out of it, they have no picks to offer. Portland is said to wants picks. It all depends on what the C's and Bulls are willing to give up besides next years #1. I think it will be Chi. The guy the C's should not have gone after is Wafer. Rudy is far and away better, Delonte is better, and most nights even Hughes is better. As is, they might as well change his name to DNP. They do have an open roster spot and there is a very good chance that player will see more action than Von.
Posted by croc
So why not just trade Wafer for Rudy with a 2nd rounder or the 1st if it comes to that? -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/21/2010 7:02 PM EDT
Wafer can't be traded until midyear. -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/21/2010 7:28 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez:Wafer can't be traded until midyear.
Posted by croc
Midyear? Ya mean 12/15 don't ya? -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/21/2010 7:43 PM EDT
Yupper -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/21/2010 11:17 PM EDT
seriously guys I think that Boston would be better served if Ainge were to somehow make a trade for Iguodala! -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/21/2010 11:26 PM EDT
if we get rudy....we are going to the finals smoking them laker butts and heat and we goin to be 18 time champions againnn -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/22/2010 12:04 AM EDT
Wafer is not an issue, keep him. Harangody is too slow to stay with SFs'. West is too small to play SF.They need to go after someone like a Jarvis Hayes, Tayshaun Prince or Shane Battier. People with alot of defense and some offense off the bench. -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/22/2010 12:05 AM EDT
I wish we can get Iguadola, that is a huge long shot, he is the face of the Sixers and he would want to start. -
Re: Rumor: Celtic's to offer 2011 first round pick for Fernandez
posted at 8/22/2010 2:01 AM EDT
danny has to do what ever it takes to get rudy desprate times call for desprate mesures and if danny does not get rudy fernadez he will destroy the celtics for ever and it will be a heat lakers nba finals just like david stern wants