Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.

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    Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.

    Lakers:                                                         Celtics:


    Games left to tough teams:  (10)                    Games left to tough teams: (3)

    Portland (record 40-18) 2 games                   Miami (record 40-14) - 1 game

    Clippers (record 40-20)  2 games                   Indiana (record 43-13) - 2 games

    OKC       (record 43-15)  2 games                           

    Spurs     (record 41-16)  3 games                       

    Rockets  (record 39-19)  1 game                                                                                                                

                                       

    Games left to mid level teams: (4)                     Games left to mid level team:(6)


    Warriors (record 35-23) 1 game                       Warriors (record 35-23) 1 game

    Dallas     (record 36-23) 1 game                       Dallas     (record 36-23) 1 game

    Phoenix  (record 33-24) 1 game                        Phoenix  (record 33-24) 1 game

    Memphis (record 32-24)  1 game                       Raptors  (record 32-25) 1 game

                                                                               Bulls      (record 31-26) 2 games

    Games left to bottom teams(6)                        Games left to bottom teams: (11)

    N.Orleans (record 23-34) 1 game                       N.Orleans (record 23-34) 1 game

    Wizzards  (record 29-28) 1 game                       Wizzards  (record 29-28) 2 games

    Denver     (record 25-31) 1 game                        Cav's       (record 23-36) 1 game

    Knicks       (record 21-36) 1 game                        Knicks      (record 21-36) 1 game

    Utah         (record 21-36) 1 game                         Nets         (record 26-29) 2 games

    Minesotta (record 28-29) 1 game                         Pistons     (record 23-35) 3 games

                                                                                  Bobcats    (record 27-30) 1 game

    Games left to D league teams: (4)                  Games left to D to D teams:(2)

     

    Magic        (record 18-42) 1 game                 76ers        (record 15-43) (2games)

    Bucks        (record 11-45) 1 game

    Kings        (record 20-37) 2 games

     

     

    *Race to worst is on   Wink

     
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    Re: Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.

    I guess Kobe is not coming back this season?  For eastern conference, 5-10 games below .500 mean they are good teams.  We have the same bad record as the Lakers despite playing similar kind of schedule against mostly bad eastern conference teams all year.  So your classification of difference in strength of schedule might not be a good one here.

     
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    Re: Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.

    Celtics have 9 firsts over the next 5 years.

    If the Lakers get a higher pick this year it wont mean much.

     
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    Re: Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.

    Kobe??? I don't know. But the fact is Lakers have 10games vs teams very difficult to beat and title contenders. Celtics only have 3 a difference of 7 games. Winnable games vs D league teams like the Celtics and the Lakers, Celtics have 2 Lakers 4 Difference of only 2 games. Anyway you look at it Lakers have by far the most difficult schedule.

     

     
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    Re: Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.

    In response to 37stories' comment:

    Celtics have 9 firsts over the next 5 years.

    If the Lakers get a higher pick this year it wont mean much.




    Not every year is a good draft year like this one. Remember last season's draft??? Who was the first player drafted last season by the Cav's???  Lakers have never built through the draft never and according to Kupchak we are not doing it now. Teams like the Cav's, Wizards, Bobcats, Milwaukee have tried building through the draft for many years with negative results.

     
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    Re: Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.

    I am just saying if the Lakers pick 5th and the Celtics 6th I could care less.  I imagine you feel the same.  I know its a slow time of year for both teams and there isn't much else to think about but...

     
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    Re: Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.

    In response to 37stories' comment:
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    I am just saying if the Lakers pick 5th and the Celtics 6th I could care less.  I imagine you feel the same.  I know its a slow time of year for both teams and there isn't much else to think about but...

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    Agree. Wink It's just for reference.

     
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    Re: Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.

    In response to TheNewGKDynasty's comment:
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    In response to 37stories' comment:

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    Celtics have 9 firsts over the next 5 years.

    If the Lakers get a higher pick this year it wont mean much.

     

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    Not every year is a good draft year like this one. Remember last season's draft??? Who was the first player drafted last season by the Cav's???  Lakers have never built through the draft never and according to Kupchak we are not doing it now. Teams like the Cav's, Wizards, Bobcats, Milwaukee have tried building through the draft for many years with negative results.

     

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    I think that is a very disgenuous statement by your GM.  Even the Lakers need draft picks to make deals if they don't plan on making the picks themselves.  Good unrestricted free-agent does not come very often even for the Lakers.  Lakers fans are tone deaf to think that good time is imminent and right around the corner.  I think there are plenty there that understand the current reality whether they want to admit it or not.

     
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    Re: Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.


    As each week goes by it's becoming more clear that the early euphoria of a talent rich draft is starting to fade by the opinion of "experts" in the media...guys not playing well, guys not old enough or mature enough, guys possibly deciding to stay in school...it's becoming a growing cluster F...what happens is what will happen...the long run  will dictate succesws....glad we got picks over a number of years...hopefully the law of averages will be on our side...finally!

     
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    Re: Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.

    No Fungy you got it all twisted as always. You wanted to tank before the season started and I on the other hand didn't want to tank. It is not in my mentality. Now with 25 games left I already know Lakers won't make the playoffs and with all the injuries the Lakers have had and have we will lose a lot of games. Not because we are tanking but because of injuries and a bunch of scrubs in one year contract. Maybe it was Jimmy's plan all along. So we might say Thaaaaks Jiiimmyyyyy!!!!! You are just mad because of your predictions being wrong 99.9% of the time. Do you still believe the Celtics will have the # pick and pick Andrew Wiggins and the Lakers with the 18 pick will pick SELECT WHO CARES????? SORRY FUNGY DEAD WRONG YET AGAIN...

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

     

    You are a slave of your own words:

    In response to Fierce34's comment:
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    Adam Silver: With the 1st pick of the 2014 Draft, the Boston Celtics select Andrew Wiggins from Kansas.

     

    In response to Fierce34's comment:
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    Adam Silver: With the 18th pick of the 2014 NBA Draft, the Los Angeles Lakers select WHO CARES!

    HAHAHA

    Don't be mad because you got it all wrong again. I thought you would be used to it by now after being dead wrong 99.9% of the time...

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

    jack nicholson

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    Re: Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.

    Define hypocrisy -

     

    A team that for YEARS has scoffed at the draft, and traded first round picks for the future now refuses to make trades unless they "acquire picks."

     

    Geesh -make up your mind, lakers!  You CANNOT have it both ways!!  And no GM is going to trade with ole Mitchy boy.....................probably the most untrustworthy GM in all of sports.

     
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    Re: Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.

    Vying for being in the top 5 we are competing with the Bucks, Philly and Magic who have 2-3 more losses than we do and then about equal to us in losses are the Lakers, Kings & Jazz.

    It has been a weird season for many teams that were picked to be strong contenders.   Nets with KG & PP were picked by many as team to be in finals. I think they don't go beyond 1st round. Doc has Clippers poised with Paul & Griffin playing well but still lacking another superstar. For OKC Durant is a one man show, Ibaka helps & Westbrook return from injury but they will still be bridemaids. McHale, and I always liked him, has 2 good players, Harden & Howard but rest are average. I always liked Tom Thibodeou but it's their defense that wins & w/o Rose can't go beyond 1st round. Spurs are too old to contend. GS is too erratic as Curry can score 35-40 and team can lose. Knicks with CarmelNO will probably not make the playoffs.

    Portland & Suns are 2 good upstart teams but not contenders.

    Indiana & the Heat have the best records and rightfully so as I feel they'll be in the finals and, unfortunately, Heat may go for #3 in a row.

     
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    Re: Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.

    It is pretty sickening and obvious what is going to happen in LA over the next two years.

    Wade, Bosh and LBJ are not going to opt out of 2 years and 42 million to go to LA, so that pipe dream is out thew window.

    Sooo, it will be shady of course, the league wouldn't dare give LA pick #1, but the Lakers to be tossed pick 2 or 3 in the draft and take Wiggins or Parker. They will be slotted at 5-7 and bump some poor team like the Bucks or Magic out of the top 3.

    The next moves for LA:

    1. Gasol reuiniting with his brother in Memphis makes too much sense. After Zach Randolph opts into his 1 year 16.5m contract the Lakers do a sign and trade of Gasol for Randolph. Not sure if it will be 2, 3 or 4 years, but the contract will be in the 13-15m a year range.

    2. They work on getting a C to go alongside Randolph. They still have 8 million left under the cap. I say the Lakers will sign Gortat for like 4/34. Even though the big man gets offered like the Sanders 4/44 from several teams or maybe even the Noah 4/48 from the Wiz who are desperate to keep him, big Gortat goes to LA for less.


    LA only get their 2015 1st rd pick if it is top 5. Gortat-Randolph-Wiggins/Parker-Kobe-Nash and a REALLY bad bench gets them into the playoffs but no further than round 1. But the battle is good for Wiggins/Parker to be a part of.

    Summer 2015, the cap has gone up to 65 million, the Lakers lose 26 million of Randolph/Nash and have 38 million devoted to 3 players: Kobe, Gortat and Wiggins/Parker.

    1. They sign Love (4/80) deal starts around 18.5

    2. They have 7-9 million in space left and don't want to burn any 2016 cap space, so maybe a 1 year deal for a guy like Barea or Lin or they have Kendall Marshall cheap over a couple of years.

    The 2016 Lakers again make the playoffs, maybe round 2 this time if Kobe is a 15ppg 3rd option and Wiggins/Parker make the sophmore jump to 20ppg scorer. They actually have a 1st rd pick in 2016. They'll only have 36 million to Gortat, Love, a PG/'16 pick and Wiggins/Parker. The cap will be at like 68 million.

    Kyrie Irving hates Cleveland and has played out his deal on a QO. He probably was traded, but wants to test free agency anyhow. LA gives him a max deal. Hibbert is unrestricted, so the Lakers trade Gortat and his reasonable 2/18 left on his deal for a SG who wants to leave his team, might have just gotten hit with the QO, someone like Terrance Ross for Gortat and a future pick. They sign Hibbert for like 4/72.

    Kobe, age 38, is renounced so there is no cap hold, after all the dust settles he signs some 2 year deal for the MLE to be the 6th man, play until age 40, and get Kareem's scoring title. Hibbert-Love-Wiggins/Parker-Ross-Irving starting 5.

    Lakers become title contenders again for the 2017 playoffs.

    The same year the Celtics will probably become title contenders even if they don't land Love.

     
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    Re: Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.

    In response to rameakap's comment:
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    It is pretty sickening and obvious what is going to happen in LA over the next two years.

    Wade, Bosh and LBJ are not going to opt out of 2 years and 42 million to go to LA, so that pipe dream is out thew window.

    Sooo, it will be shady of course, the league wouldn't dare give LA pick #1, but the Lakers to be tossed pick 2 or 3 in the draft and take Wiggins or Parker. They will be slotted at 5-7 and bump some poor team like the Bucks or Magic out of the top 3.

    The next moves for LA:

    1. Gasol reuiniting with his brother in Memphis makes too much sense. After Zach Randolph opts into his 1 year 16.5m contract the Lakers do a sign and trade of Gasol for Randolph. Not sure if it will be 2, 3 or 4 years, but the contract will be in the 13-15m a year range.

    2. They work on getting a C to go alongside Randolph. They still have 8 million left under the cap. I say the Lakers will sign Gortat for like 4/34. Even though the big man gets offered like the Sanders 4/44 from several teams or maybe even the Noah 4/48 from the Wiz who are desperate to keep him, big Gortat goes to LA for less.


    LA only get their 2015 1st rd pick if it is top 5. Gortat-Randolph-Wiggins/Parker-Kobe-Nash and a REALLY bad bench gets them into the playoffs but no further than round 1. But the battle is good for Wiggins/Parker to be a part of.

    Summer 2015, the cap has gone up to 65 million, the Lakers lose 26 million of Randolph/Nash and have 38 million devoted to 3 players: Kobe, Gortat and Wiggins/Parker.

    1. They sign Love (4/80) deal starts around 18.5

    2. They have 7-9 million in space left and don't want to burn any 2016 cap space, so maybe a 1 year deal for a guy like Barea or Lin or they have Kendall Marshall cheap over a couple of years.

    The 2016 Lakers again make the playoffs, maybe round 2 this time if Kobe is a 15ppg 3rd option and Wiggins/Parker make the sophmore jump to 20ppg scorer. They actually have a 1st rd pick in 2016. They'll only have 36 million to Gortat, Love, a PG/'16 pick and Wiggins/Parker. The cap will be at like 68 million.

    Kyrie Irving hates Cleveland and has played out his deal on a QO. He probably was traded, but wants to test free agency anyhow. LA gives him a max deal. Hibbert is unrestricted, so the Lakers trade Gortat and his reasonable 2/18 left on his deal for a SG who wants to leave his team, might have just gotten hit with the QO, someone like Terrance Ross for Gortat and a future pick. They sign Hibbert for like 4/72.

    Kobe, age 38, is renounced so there is no cap hold, after all the dust settles he signs some 2 year deal for the MLE to be the 6th man, play until age 40, and get Kareem's scoring title. Hibbert-Love-Wiggins/Parker-Ross-Irving starting 5.

    Lakers become title contenders again for the 2017 playoffs.

    The same year the Celtics will probably become title contenders even if they don't land Love.

    [/QUOTE]


    Rumors circulating that Exum is pulling a "Danny Ferry", and only wants to play for the lakers.  If they don't draft him, then he will play overseas. 

     
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    Re: Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.

    The fair thing is LA getting pick 5-7 and selecting Exum, maybe the next Penny Hardaway, over being gifted pick 2 or 3.

    Then we can watch Melo spurn their 4/88 offer (what Rockets gave Dwight) to stay in NY for 5/125.

    So they make the Gasol-Randolph swap and sign Gortat for 4/36.

    Gortat- Randolph - Kobe - Exum - Nash - Marshall that is their 2015 1st rd losing team. They desperately need a SF.

    Love comes in 2015 to replace Randolph/Nash $.

    Durant comes in 2016 to replace Kobe $.

     
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    Re: Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.

    In response to scubber's comment:
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    I guess Kobe is not coming back this season?  For eastern conference, 5-10 games below .500 mean they are good teams.  We have the same bad record as the Lakers despite playing similar kind of schedule against mostly bad eastern conference teams all year.  So your classification of difference in strength of schedule might not be a good one here.

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    LMAO, like you know anything about sos.  Look son, give it up the Lake Show is getting a damn good pick and put that in your pipe. 

     
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    Re: Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.

    Some people should lay off the pipe

     
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    Re: Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.

    Lakers pulled out a win over the Kings. GK, did you have this one as a win or loss going into the game? 

     
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    Re: Strength of remaining Schedule Lakers/ Celtics Draft pick order implications.

    It doesn't matter the records... Lakers and Celtics are not getting into the top 3 record wise, Bucks, Sixers, Magic are all tanking worse/

    Both teams will need some ping pong ball luck. We all know who will get it too.... Fakers will be gifted a top 3 pick, it's going to happen;-)

     
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