subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo

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    Few would argue that Rondo is a better PG than D Rose.  But replacing Rondo with Rose could actually make the Celtics worse.      Not possible to make a team worse by adding better players you say?       Hmmm    How about if you take last year's Cleveland Cavaliers and add D Wade and Bosh.     Subtraction by addition is much easier than you might think.              
     
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    It's pure speculation to be honest. We really don't know how Rose would impact the team if he played for the Celtics.

    In my opinion though, the Celtics would be a better team because we'd play 5 on 5 on offense instead of 3 on 5, or 4 on 5, because defenses respect Rose.

    Derrick Rose is an underrated passer in my opinion, and he's willing to distribute the ball, contrary to what some might believe.
     
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    Few would argue that Rondo is a better PG than D Rose.  But replacing Rondo with Rose could actually make the Celtics worse.      Not possible to make a team worse by adding better players you say?       Hmmm    How about if you take last year's Cleveland Cavaliers and add D Wade and Bosh.     Subtraction by addition is much easier than you might think.              
    Posted by videoburns


    It clearly didn't make TEAM USA that much worse. They struggled along okay as I remember.

    And where would Rondo go in return? And what would be his own  fate?

    He would likely suffer.

    Pud
     
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    He's on the Celtics and your stuck with him Pud!
     
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    He's on the Celtics and your stuck with him Pud!
    Posted by concord27


    So no more thoughtful hypotheticals?

    The only subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo would be if the C's fielded a team for  the GE College Bowl. (google it, younguns)

    Pud
     
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    In Response to Re: subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo:
    In Response to Re: subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo : So no more thoughtful hypotheticals? The only subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo would be if the C's fielded a team for  the GE College Bowl. (google it, younguns) Pud
    Posted by puddinpuddin


    Do you smoke, shoot, or snort what these guys are on?

    Let's see would I rather have the MVP who has actually improved his shooting since he cam into the league and has carried the Bulls on his back (without Boozer and Noah for about 50 games) to a record that is not much worse than the Cs or a guy who almost appears to have something to prove re. his inability to shoot or lack of desire to learn how to shoot?

    I think there is part of Rondo's psyche that says "I will show them, I will be considered one of the best point guards in the league even with my defiance to learn how to shoot".
     
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    In Response to Re: subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo:
    In Response to Re: subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo : Do you smoke, shoot, or snort what these guys are on? Let's see would I rather have the MVP who has actually improved his shooting since he cam into the league and has carried the Bulls on his back (without Boozer and Noah for about 50 games) to a record that is not much worse than the Cs or a guy who almost appears to have something to prove re. his inability to shoot or lack of desire to learn how to shoot? I think there is part of Rondo's psyche that says "I will show them, I will be considered one of the best point guards in the league even with my defiance to learn how to shoot".
    Posted by TheDUDDER


    Look up the General Electric College Bowl TV series from the '60's... with host Alan Ludden... and get back to me. 

    Try googling it.

    Pud
     
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    In Response to Re: subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo : Look up the General Electric College Bowl TV series from the '60's... with host Alan Ludden... and get back to me.  Try googling it. Pud
    Posted by puddinpuddin

    pud, I got you.  It's a game show.  They don't know.  Like you said, maybe they ought to google it.

    The Cs could win the GE College Bowl with Rose, don't you think.
     
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    In Response to Re: subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo : pud, I got you.  It's a game show.  They don't know.  Like you said, maybe they ought to google it. The Cs could win the GE College Bowl with Rose, don't you think.
    Posted by Petey62


    Its teams of brainiacs representing colleges or organizations. Know it alls. Tweebs. Pencil neck geeks. Phi Beta Kappas. Chess club. Geometry nerds.

    Listening to DRose talk, one gets the feeling that he is one helluva b-ball player but is not Phi Beta Kappa material. He is never, ever the smartest player on the floor.

    But he doesn't get paid big bucks to know the capital of Turkmenistan or what year the Magna Carta was signed.

    Or even the square root of 4!

    Pud
     
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    Rose has the proven ability to be THE go to guy at the end of games to win.  As Garnett, Pierce and Allen age yet another year, we can't count on them next year to adequately and consistenly perform that role.  Wishful fantacy having Rose as our PG.  Might as well include Dwight Howard in the same dream. 
     
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    Re: subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo

    what?
     
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    Let's face it if the white audience walked away they would all be asking do you want fries with that shake. 
    Posted by TheDUDDER


    ??? yes like Doc Rivers is dumb, right?     This statement says far more about Dud  than it does about anyone in the NBA.  

    The fact is  you can't be a great athelete in a team sport without substantial brain power.    It might not be focused in language based activities, but complex, rapid fire, on the fly, spacial analysis, risk reward assessment,  strategic considerations and a host of other high level brain functions are all required in elite level team sports - and more so in basketball (with its continuous play and high speed, than other team sports.    That Dud doesn't know this, doesn't suprise me.  We know from his posts that he thinks he's smarter than Danny and Doc -  who apparantly don't have the good sense to take his advise and trade Rondo for Brooks....      But that he would classify all NBA players as too dumb to be anything but fast food servers...     AND couch it in terms of the race of the audience...     is almost beyond belief.  
     
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    In Response to Re: subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo : ??? yes like Doc Rivers is dumb, right?     This statement says far more about Dud  than it does about anyone in the NBA.   The fact is  you can't be a great athelete in a team sport without substantial brain power.    It might not be focused in language based activities, but complex, rapid fire, on the fly, spacial analysis, risk reward assessment,  strategic considerations and a host of other high level brain functions are all required in elite level team sports - and more so in basketball (with its continuous play and high speed, than other team sports.    That Dud doesn't know this, doesn't suprise me.  We know from his posts that he thinks he's smarter than Danny and Doc -  who apparantly don't have the good sense to take his advise and trade Rondo for Brooks....      But that he would classify all NBA players as too dumb to be anything but fast food servers...     AND couch it in terms of the race of the audience...     is almost beyond belief.  
    Posted by videoburns


    What?

    Pud
     
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    question 1. is dudder racist? havent been on the board long enough to know 2. and im simply just curious, no disrespect, how old are you puddin? how bout dudder? i feel like i can connect with wat the people are saying if i have an idea of their age.
     
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    question 1. is dudder racist? havent been on the board long enough to know 2. and im simply just curious, no disrespect, how old are you puddin? how bout dudder? i feel like i can connect with wat the people are saying if i have an idea of their age.
    Posted by JamezHill24


    What's your age and what would you guess mine is?

    Pud
     
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    In Response to Re: subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo : What's your age and what would you guess mine is? Pud
    Posted by puddinpuddin

    lol..i just turned 21. and originally i thought you were young like me but lately i have been getting the impression your more my fathers age, perhaps even older.

     
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    In Response to Re: subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo : lol..i just turned 21. and originally i thought you were young like me but lately i have been getting the impression your more my fathers age, perhaps even older.
    Posted by JamezHill24


    How about grandfather.

    I would have guess that you were late teens maybe.

    Pud
     
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    In Response to Re: subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo : Please, please, please...... about 2% of the guys in the NBA could have ever gotten into college without their scholarship, when you are so lazy that you name people with the initial of their first name and the first syllable of their last name, when you think the phrase "yaimean" is punctuation, when you think "noimsain" is punctuation" and your interviews include and endless list of cliches spoken in ebonics......  please alert some of them that the word game does not end in the letter n, please alert them that me and you cannot start a sentence.... The way to knock down Rose as the MVP candidate is to somehow suggest that he is not too bright, these are the same people that would have you believe Rondo is some sort of genius because he passes algebra or something like that. Let's face it if the white audience walked away they would all be asking do you want fries with that shake. At least Semih was one guy that got a jersey number somewhere near his IQ, oh wait, they all do........
    Posted by TheDUDDER


    I guess this guy just can't help himself from posting racist trash. He should be banned for good. This isn't the first time.
     
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    In Response to Re: subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo : What? Pud
    Posted by puddinpuddin



    Which sentance don't you understand?
     
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    In Response to Re: subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo : How about grandfather. I would have guess that you were late teens maybe. Pud
    Posted by puddinpuddin


    thats fantastic. like i said, wen i first got on the board i guess your mind just tells you everyone is around the same age as you. 

    back to the discussion, altho rose is quite a player on the court, im just not sure that he would fit very well with THIS celtics team. when the big 3 are done or diminished (not at elite level), then perhaps rose would be good for the team, altho noone is really sure wat rondo's progressions will have been by then.
     
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    In Response to Re: subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo : I guess this guy just can't help himself from posting racist trash. He should be banned for good. This isn't the first time.
    Posted by NickFaldo


    You know, I've read numerous postings about him typing up racist comments. I've never seen them until I read the nonsense he posted earlier.

    I got it now. Some people are just born ignorant. Comments like that shouldn't be allowed to remain.
     
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    In Response to Re: subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo:, please alert them that me and you cannot start a sentence.... 
    Posted by TheDUDDER[/QUOTE]



    sentence
    Me and you are both words in the english language.  

    Language is flexible and always evolving.    

    Writers know and embrace that. 


     
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    In Response to Re: subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo : thats fantastic. like i said, wen i first got on the board i guess your mind just tells you everyone is around the same age as you.  back to the discussion, altho rose is quite a player on the court, im just not sure that he would fit very well with THIS celtics team. when the big 3 are done or diminished (not at elite level), then perhaps rose would be good for the team, altho noone is really sure wat rondo's progressions will have been by then.
    Posted by JamezHill24


    Rose is not coming.. so no worries there. My guess is that Rondo has peaked as aciemvp says... two coats of paint short of being truly great.

    It will be interesting to see what DA does in terms of wheeling and dealing.

    Pud
     
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    In Response to Re: subtraction by addition Rose for Rondo : You know, I've read numerous postings about him typing up racist comments. I've never seen them until I read the nonsense he posted earlier. I got it now. Some people are just born ignorant. Comments like that shouldn't be allowed to remain.
    Posted by Waynestarr


    He had another one very similar which the moderators deleted. He called Perk a thug who needs ebonics. KY and Che backed him up saying people were playing the race card. They probably think Rick Barry said nothing wrong when he spoke of Bill Russell having a watermelon smile.

    I flagged this one after making my post and am surprised it's still there. I'm surprised KY Pudder still has posting privileges.
     
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    I think there is part of Rondo's psyche that says "I will show them, I will be considered one of the best point guards in the league even with my defiance to learn how to shoot".
    Posted by TheDUDDER


    I just don't get this mentality. Could you "learn" how to dunk a basketball over a car like Griffin? Look at Shaq. He's almost 40 and he still can't post respectable free throw numbers.

    People just assume that because Rondo is a professional athlete he can learn to shoot. That makes no sense! Sure, players can hone skills. But only to a certain point. Rondo can't shoot. He doesn't have that skill. He can practice until the end of time. It's not going to get that much better.

    The idea that he's not trying to improve because he doesn't care seems ridiculous to me. Or that he's going to get markedly better. He's been in the league long enough that he is what he is. I think he's about as good as he's ever going to be.

    If I could just practice my way to greatness, I would be an All Pro running back in the NFL right now.

    Just enjoy him for what he is. He fits this team perfectly right now. Hopefully we can get something good for him when we start rebuilding because I don't think he's a player you can build a franchise around. But for now, I'm perfectly happy with him as the starting PG.
     
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