Tanguay: Celtics still don't have chips for a major deal

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    Tanguay: Celtics still don't have chips for a major deal

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    Boston is only one year into a rebuild after shipping out Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett. When the Celtics traded for Ray Allen and KG in the summer of 2007, they did so by moving players who had been drafted over a THREE-YEAR PERIOD. One year is just not enough time.


    In the Ray Allen deal, the Celtics sent Jeff Green, Wally Szczerbiak and Delonte West to Seattle. Green was drafted in 2007, West in 2004.


    In the KG deal, Boston sent Al Jefferson, Sebastian Telfair, Ryan Gomes and Gerald Green to the Minnesota T-Wolves. Jefferson was drafted in 2004, Gomes and Green in 2005.


    Five players drafted over a three-year period brought in the stars who delivered a 17th NBA championship.


    The current Celtics don't have those chips, not yet. Green -- back with the team after the 2011 Kendrick Perkins deal -- has seen his stock drop substantially. Avery Bradley has a bad contract. Plus, Celtic fans overrate his abilities and his value on the trade market.


    In other words, these players are not chips.

     
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    Ha, Tanguay is a joke, but in this case he is right.

     
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    Neither green nor Bradley is overpaid based on the contracts Hayward and parsons have been offered. 

     
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    Re: Tanguay: Celtics still don't have chips for a major deal

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    Boston is only one year into a rebuild after shipping out Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett. When the Celtics traded for Ray Allen and KG in the summer of 2007, they did so by moving players who had been drafted over a THREE-YEAR PERIOD. One year is just not enough time.

     

    In the Ray Allen deal, the Celtics sent Jeff Green, Wally Szczerbiak and Delonte West to Seattle. Green was drafted in 2007, West in 2004.

     

    In the KG deal, Boston sent Al Jefferson, Sebastian Telfair, Ryan Gomes and Gerald Green to the Minnesota T-Wolves. Jefferson was drafted in 2004, Gomes and Green in 2005.

     

    Five players drafted over a three-year period brought in the stars who delivered a 17th NBA championship.

     

    The current Celtics don't have those chips, not yet. Green -- back with the team after the 2011 Kendrick Perkins deal -- has seen his stock drop substantially. Avery Bradley has a bad contract. Plus, Celtic fans overrate his abilities and his value on the trade market.

     

    In other words, these players are not chips.



    who gives a fluck what time period they were drafted over, it is the quality of the players that matters.  Sczerbiak and west sucked, green was a rookie at the time.  You cant tell me that KO,Young, Bass, and 2 or 3 first round picks aren't as good as the Allen trade.  Granted we don't have anyone of big al's caliber to trade, but minni has very little leverage.  they deal him in the next 7 months or he walks...

     
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    Boston is only one year into a rebuild after shipping out Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett. When the Celtics traded for Ray Allen and KG in the summer of 2007, they did so by moving players who had been drafted over a THREE-YEAR PERIOD. One year is just not enough time.

     

    In the Ray Allen deal, the Celtics sent Jeff Green, Wally Szczerbiak and Delonte West to Seattle. Green was drafted in 2007, West in 2004.

     

    In the KG deal, Boston sent Al Jefferson, Sebastian Telfair, Ryan Gomes and Gerald Green to the Minnesota T-Wolves. Jefferson was drafted in 2004, Gomes and Green in 2005.

     

    Five players drafted over a three-year period brought in the stars who delivered a 17th NBA championship.

     

    The current Celtics don't have those chips, not yet. Green -- back with the team after the 2011 Kendrick Perkins deal -- has seen his stock drop substantially. Avery Bradley has a bad contract. Plus, Celtic fans overrate his abilities and his value on the trade market.

     

    In other words, these players are not chips.



    You realize this is counter of what you have been posting. He is saying that you need to wait another year to make a trade and you are saying just build through the draft and you are bound to get lucky.

    (Also he is not a fan of the Bradley deal)

     
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    who gives a fluck what time period they were drafted over, it is the quality of the players that matters.  Sczerbiak and west sucked, green was a rookie at the time.  You cant tell me that KO,Young, Bass, and 2 or 3 first round picks aren't as good as the Allen trade.  Granted we don't have anyone of big al's caliber to trade, but minni has very little leverage.  they deal him in the next 7 months or he walks...




    The time period is critical because you don't know what you're getting if you take Oly and James Young now.


    Young could end up being a bust.


    There's a chance Oly doesn't become a 16ppg and 8 rpg guy.


     


    When a player is already a 3-year veteran, more or less you know what caliber of player you're getting.


     


    Here's the thing, the Celts had a better offer before the draft.


    Why?


    Because the Wolves could have used the #6 pick on Randle or Vonleh to replace Love.


     


    Right now the Celts are basically offering the #17 pick, Oly, Green, and Bass.


    I don't that package is exciting to Minny fans.

     
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    You realize this is counter of what you have been posting. He is saying that you need to wait another year to make a trade and you are saying just build through the draft and you are bound to get lucky.


    (Also he is not a fan of the Bradley deal)




    Parsons and Hayward got close to 16m per year.


    AB only got 8m per year.


    That's half the price!


     


    Don't be a tool.


    Yes, I want to build through the draft because sooner or later the Celts will get lucky and end up with a star player, regardless of draft position.


    Celts got Pierce with the #10 pick, remember?


     


    Accumulating assets like picks and using it on trades is also an option.


    So how can you trade for star players if you don't have assets?


     


    Building through the draft gives you 2 options.


    1. The OKC way.


    2. Accumulate assets then use it to trade for a star player.


     


    It's totally idiotic if the Celts invest in players like Spencer Hawes, Anthony Morrow, or Emeka Okafor.


    We don't want to be a middle of the pack team like in 1994 and 1995.

     
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    well said...

    You realize this is counter of what you have been posting. He is saying that you need to wait another year to make a trade and you are saying just build through the draft and you are bound to get lucky.

     

    (Also he is not a fan of the Bradley deal)

     

     



    Parsons and Hayward got close to 16m per year.

     

     

    AB only got 8m per year.

     

    That's half the price!

     

     

     

    Don't be a tool.

     

    Yes, I want to build through the draft because sooner or later the Celts will get lucky and end up with a star player, regardless of draft position.

     

    Celts got Pierce with the #10 pick, remember?

     

     

     

    Accumulating assets like picks and using it on trades is also an option.

     

    So how can you trade for star players if you don't have assets?

     

     

     

    Building through the draft gives you 2 options.

     

    1. The OKC way.

     

    2. Accumulate assets then use it to trade for a star player.

     

     

     

    It's totally idiotic if the Celts invest in players like Spencer Hawes, Anthony Morrow, or Emeka Okafor.

     

    We don't want to be a middle of the pack team like in 1994 and 1995.




     
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    Re: Tanguay: Celtics still don't have chips for a major deal

    I don't believe Tanquay is right here. The way money is being thrown around the Celtics have players with movable and manageable contracts.  The Wolves aren't working from the same position as they were with KG. Love will leave KG didn't have to leave. The Celtics got Allen from a high draft pick.

    There are just different circumstances from the 2007 deal...mainly Love becoming a FA.

     

     

     
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    Re: Tanguay: Celtics still don't have chips for a major deal

    In response to FierceBrand's comment:

    In response to myurkus' comment:

     

     

    who gives a fluck what time period they were drafted over, it is the quality of the players that matters.  Sczerbiak and west sucked, green was a rookie at the time.  You cant tell me that KO,Young, Bass, and 2 or 3 first round picks aren't as good as the Allen trade.  Granted we don't have anyone of big al's caliber to trade, but minni has very little leverage.  they deal him in the next 7 months or he walks...

     

     



    The time period is critical because you don't know what you're getting if you take Oly and James Young now.

     

     

    Young could end up being a bust.

     

    There's a chance Oly doesn't become a 16ppg and 8 rpg guy.

     

     

     

    When a player is already a 3-year veteran, more or less you know what caliber of player you're getting.

     

     

     

    Here's the thing, the Celts had a better offer before the draft.

     

    Why?

     

    Because the Wolves could have used the #6 pick on Randle or Vonleh to replace Love.

     

     

     

    Right now the Celts are basically offering the #17 pick, Oly, Green, and Bass.

     

    I don't that package is exciting to Minny fans.



    Fierce.

    I can't believe you would quote Tanguay.  He is a great outlier. Whatever he says the opposite is happening, the trade may have a chance. Joking. but the package of 17, Oly, Green, and Bass is absurd.  They will have to sweeten it quite a bit.  And they will. Doesn't mean it will happen. But, the comment someone made Love for Wiggins sounds even more far fetched.

     
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    Re: Tanguay: Celtics still don't have chips for a major deal

    Those players (Okafor, Hawes & Morrow) are assets that playoff teams would all like to add to their rosters and hence have plenty of trade value.

    In fact they have much more trade value than the bag of balls we sent to Minny for KG. After your so called "years of development" Telfair & Green failed to show any progress and Minny knew what they were getting. Gomes had some value but was an undersized forward. They got two things from that trade that they wanted. Jefferson and a huge expiring contract in Ratliff.

    Saunders says the C's sent Minny draft picks that weren't a sure thing (they picked them so why would they have done any better picking #6 and #17 in this draft as you think they would have preferred?) and young players that didn't add value other than Jefferson for KG so this time he wants developed players that are a given rather than prayers.

    Using Tanguay to make your point is a huge fail by you.

     
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    Those players (Okafor, Hawes & Morrow) are assets that playoff teams would all like to add to their rosters and hence have plenty of trade value.


    In fact they have much more trade value than the bag of balls we sent to Minny for KG. After your so called "years of development" Telfair & Green failed to show any progress and Minny knew what they were getting. Gomes had some value but was an undersized forward. They got two things from that trade that they wanted. Jefferson and a huge expiring contract in Ratliff.


    Saunders says the C's sent Minny draft picks that weren't a sure thing (they picked them so why would they have done any better picking #6 and #17 in this draft as you think they would have preferred?) and young players that didn't add value other than Jefferson for KG so this time he wants developed players that are a given rather than prayers.


    Using Tanguay to make your point is a huge fail by you.






     



    Lol, good post, and I even have the original poser in question on ignore.


    #1 draft picks are bad chips?


    Maybe Ainge wants to keep some of these young guys unless he gets the same player advanced in years or a similar quality need player in return.


    You don't buy high and sell low when you could just wait another season, these young guys are going to look pretty good when they develop some more and packaged with expiring contracts later in the season.

     
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    Fierce.


    I can't believe you would quote Tanguay.  He is a great outlier. Whatever he says the opposite is happening, the trade may have a chance. Joking. but the package of 17, Oly, Green, and Bass is absurd.  They will have to sweeten it quite a bit.  And they will. Doesn't mean it will happen. But, the comment someone made Love for Wiggins sounds even more far fetched.




    That's why I said the Celts had a better offer before the draft.


     


    I also asked, in another thread, if Celtic fans were willing to give up both Oly and Sully, James Young, and 3 1st round picks.


    Only way Celts get Love is if the Celts overpay for Love.

     
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    Lol, good post, and I even have the poser in question on ignore.


    #1 draft picks are bad chips?


    Maybe Ainge wants to keep some of these young guys unless he gets the same player advanced in years or a similar quality need player in return.


    You don't buy high and sell low when you could just wait another season, these young guys are going to look pretty good when they develop some more and packaged with expiring contracts later in the season.




    wozzy


    The Celts had a lot of picks to offer Minny before the draft.


    But Minny insisted they want a player like Klay Thompson.


    The Celts don't have that kind of a player.


     


    If Minny just wanted picks then no other team can offer more picks than the Celtics.

     
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    Re: Tanguay: Celtics still don't have chips for a major deal

    I don't agree with everything Tanguay says.

    But it's true that among the young players the Celts have to offer, the only one who has a shot to become a legit starter is Sully.

     

    We need to see more from Oly.

    I believe he's going to be very good.

    But that's me, not Flip Saunders.

    So Oly's value is not as high when compared to the Al Jefferson of 2007.

     

    James Young is not even 19 years old.

    There's no way to know if he's a bust or not.

    We need to see him play first.

     

    Maybe the Celts have the chips, but right now they're not ripe yet.

     
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    Boston is only one year into a rebuild after shipping out Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett. When the Celtics traded for Ray Allen and KG in the summer of 2007, they did so by moving players who had been drafted over a THREE-YEAR PERIOD. One year is just not enough time.

     

    In the Ray Allen deal, the Celtics sent Jeff Green, Wally Szczerbiak and Delonte West to Seattle. Green was drafted in 2007, West in 2004.

     

    In the KG deal, Boston sent Al Jefferson, Sebastian Telfair, Ryan Gomes and Gerald Green to the Minnesota T-Wolves. Jefferson was drafted in 2004, Gomes and Green in 2005.

     

    Five players drafted over a three-year period brought in the stars who delivered a 17th NBA championship.

     

    The current Celtics don't have those chips, not yet. Green -- back with the team after the 2011 Kendrick Perkins deal -- has seen his stock drop substantially. Avery Bradley has a bad contract. Plus, Celtic fans overrate his abilities and his value on the trade market.

     

    In other words, these players are not chips.



    The chips the Celtics have now are as good if not better than what Love can be offered elsewhere. Here is why. Danny has 10 1st round draft picks in the next 4 years. Those are his Golden chips. He will just need to send 2 maybe 3 NBA ready players. Just waiting on the bigger chips to fall (Lebron, Melo, and Bosh). If Cleveland doesnt get Lebron, they might go all in for KLove. Should be interesting in the next few days.

     
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    Re: Tanguay: Celtics still don't have chips for a major deal

    I don't know who actually believes Tanguay's ignorant comments, but look at the treasure chest then and now:

    2007

    Lotto pick #5 

    Al Jefferson (16p/11r 19.4 PER age 22 season)

    Gerald Green

    Delonte West

    Bassy Telfair

    Ryan Gomes

    Theo Ratliff's expiring

    Wally Z's 2 years 25 million (as bad as Wallace's 2/20 is now)

    A future protected pick MN owed us

    A 2009 1st rd pick that was known would be in the late 20's

    Those were just the assets used to get KG and Ray. Not Perk, Gomes, Rondo and 2nd rd picks #32 and 35 (Gabe Pruitt and Glen Davis). 

    2014

    Lotto pick 6 (Smart)

    Jared Sullinger (13p/8r 16.4 PER age 21 season)

    James Young

    Tyler Zeller

    Kelly Olynyk

    Phil Pressey

    The expirings of Bass, Anthony and Thoronton (more than Ratliff's)

    Bogans non-guaranteed

    Two future Nets picks

    All our own future picks

    The Clippers 2015 pick

    The Cavs 2015 pick

    Our own 2nd rd picks plus likely TWO Sixers 2nd rd picks

    The Celtics have WAY more in the cupboard right now than they did in 2007. Even if Big Al is the most valuable asset between both teams, Smart and the Jeff Green pick #5 probably equal out (at the time) but then Olynyk, Sullinger, Zeller and most of our future picks have to ALL be worth more than anything else we had in 2007. James Young probably has more value than Gerald Green since Gerald had two uninspiring years under his belt. Delonte was known to be a locker room/mental health issue.

    Tanguay what are you smoking?

     
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    Tanguay has zero credibility and NEVER makes sense, imo.

     
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    Re: Tanguay: Celtics still don't have chips for a major deal

    And FierceBrand used him to make his point?

     

     

     
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    Re: Tanguay: Celtics still don't have chips for a major deal

    In response to FierceBrand's comment:

    In response to BosoxJoe5's comment:

     

     

    You realize this is counter of what you have been posting. He is saying that you need to wait another year to make a trade and you are saying just build through the draft and you are bound to get lucky.

     

    (Also he is not a fan of the Bradley deal)

     

     



    Parsons and Hayward got close to 16m per year.

     

     

    AB only got 8m per year.

     

    That's half the price!

     

     

     

    Don't be a tool.

     

    Yes, I want to build through the draft because sooner or later the Celts will get lucky and end up with a star player, regardless of draft position.

     

    Celts got Pierce with the #10 pick, remember?

     

     

     

    Accumulating assets like picks and using it on trades is also an option.

     

    So how can you trade for star players if you don't have assets?

     

     

     

    Building through the draft gives you 2 options.

     

    1. The OKC way.

     

    2. Accumulate assets then use it to trade for a star player.

     

     

     

    It's totally idiotic if the Celts invest in players like Spencer Hawes, Anthony Morrow, or Emeka Okafor.

     

    We don't want to be a middle of the pack team like in 1994 and 1995.




    Tanguay needs to just kill hisself. Look at what Parsons and Hayward are being offered. Tanguay is either jealous of Bradley or flunked Mathnasium. One 16 ounce glass of bleach should do it!

     
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    Re: Tanguay: Celtics still don't have chips for a major deal

    In response to BrandBreaker8's comment:

    Those players (Okafor, Hawes & Morrow) are assets that playoff teams would all like to add to their rosters and hence have plenty of trade value.

    In fact they have much more trade value than the bag of balls we sent to Minny for KG. After your so called "years of development" Telfair & Green failed to show any progress and Minny knew what they were getting. Gomes had some value but was an undersized forward. They got two things from that trade that they wanted. Jefferson and a huge expiring contract in Ratliff.

    Saunders says the C's sent Minny draft picks that weren't a sure thing (they picked them so why would they have done any better picking #6 and #17 in this draft as you think they would have preferred?) and young players that didn't add value other than Jefferson for KG so this time he wants developed players that are a given rather than prayers.

    Using Tanguay to make your point is a huge fail by you.



    Looks like this is one of times where Tanguay was right.

    Since July, Celts have not been able to do a major deal.

     
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    In response to FierceBrand's comment:

    In response to BrandBreaker8's comment:

    Those players (Okafor, Hawes & Morrow) are assets that playoff teams would all like to add to their rosters and hence have plenty of trade value.

    In fact they have much more trade value than the bag of balls we sent to Minny for KG. After your so called "years of development" Telfair & Green failed to show any progress and Minny knew what they were getting. Gomes had some value but was an undersized forward. They got two things from that trade that they wanted. Jefferson and a huge expiring contract in Ratliff.

    Saunders says the C's sent Minny draft picks that weren't a sure thing (they picked them so why would they have done any better picking #6 and #17 in this draft as you think they would have preferred?) and young players that didn't add value other than Jefferson for KG so this time he wants developed players that are a given rather than prayers.

    Using Tanguay to make your point is a huge fail by you.



    Looks like this is one of times where Tanguay was right.

    Since July, Celts have not been able to do a major deal.



    What makes you think Danny is looking for one?

    After LeBron, Anthony & Love were there any superstar players available?

    And, btw ... so much for Saunders BS about wanting proven vets over unproven youth and picks. Wiggins might be a top pick and a lock as a future player but hardly qualifies as a proven vet. Bennett has been a failure as the #1 pick last year though improving but again, hardly qualifies as a proven vet or a pick in Wiggins category. And Saunders "flipped" the Cav pick along with Shved and Moute into Young. But he doesn't value picks and "unproven" players .... put that in your pipe and smoke it!

     

     
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    What makes you think Danny is looking for one?

    After LeBron, Anthony & Love were there any superstar players available?

    And, btw ... so much for Saunders BS about wanting proven vets over unproven youth and picks. Wiggins might be a top pick and a lock as a future player but hardly qualifies as a proven vet. Bennett has been a failure as the #1 pick last year though improving but again, hardly qualifies as a proven vet or a pick in Wiggins category. And Saunders "flipped" the Cav pick along with Shved and Moute into Young. But he doesn't value picks and "unproven" players .... put that in your pipe and smoke it!

    Like I said, you were one of those expecting Ainge to do "horse trading"!

    Everybody here knows you kept saying that.

    But how can Ainge horse trade if he doesn't have the chips?

     

    Also, are you forgetting that the Wolves got Thad Young?

    Young is a quality young veteran, duh!

     

    It's simple.

    You said using Tanguay to prove my point is a huge fail.

    After more than a month, Tanguay was right in saying Celts won't be able to make a major deal because the Celts don't have the chips.

    And you're going to tell us Danny is not looking for a deal?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

     
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    Re: Tanguay: Celtics still don't have chips for a major deal

    Yahoo! Sports’ Adrian Wojnarowski has more on the deal, including a deeper reason for them making the trade:
    The Minnesota Timberwolves will acquire Philadelphia 76ers forward Thaddeus Young for a 2015 first-round draft pick and two role players, league sources told Yahoo Sports.
    The Timberwolves will send Philadelphia the Miami Heat’s 2015 first-round pick Minnesota will acquire as part of the Kevin Love deal with Cleveland, sources said. The T-Wolves will send forward Luc Mbah a Moute and guard Alexey Shved to the Sixers.
    Mbah a Moute has a long-standing relationship with Sixers rookie Joel Embiid, and Philadelphia considers him an important part of the mentoring process for the third pick in the 2014 NBA draft.
    This three-team deal cannot be completed until Saturday, August 23, 30 days after Andrew Wiggins signed his rookie contract.

    http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2014/08/22/report-twolves-to-trade-for-thaddeus-young/

     
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