Tank trades

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    Tank trades

    First Trade -

    To Detroit: Rondo (1 year remaining), Bass (2 years remaining), Wallace (2 years remaining).

    To Boston: Villanueva (free agent), Stuckey (free agent), Miller (1 year remaining), Arthur (1 year remaining), 2015 first round draft pick from Detroit, 2015 round draft pick from Denver.

    To Denver: Jennings (2 years remaining).

    Second Trade -

    To Charlotte: Green (2 years remaining), Bogans (2 years remaining).

    To Boston: Gordon (free agent), earlier 2014 first round draft pick. Waive Gordon.

    Third Trade -

    To Oklahoma City: Humphries (free agent)

    To Boston: Perkins (1 year remaining), Thabeet (1 year remaining), earlier 2014 first round draft pick.

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    Celtics roster heading into the draft (excluding free agents):

    1. C Joel Anthony (1 year player option)

    2. C Vitor Faverani (2 years remaining)

    3. C Kelly Olynyk (3 years remaining)

    4. C Kendrick Perkins (1 year remaining)

    5. C Hasheem Thabeet (1 year remaining)

    6. PF Jared Sullinger (2 years remaining)

    7. PF Darrell Arthur (1 year remaining)

    8. PG Andre Miller (1 year remaining)

    9. PG Phil Pressey (2 years remaining)


    2014 draft picks (by current mock projection):

    No. 8: Boston.

    No. 15: Charlotte (via Detroit).

    No. 20: Brooklyn (via Atlanta).

    No. 21: Oklahoma City (via Dallas).

     

    2015 draft picks (by current mock projection):

    No. 8: Boston.

    No. 14: Denver.

    No. 15: Detroit.

     

    Also note the massive payroll flexibility for a major free agent spending spree.

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Re: Tank trades

    In response to davidap's comment:

    First Trade -

    To Detroit: Rondo (1 year remaining), Bass (2 years remaining), Wallace (2 years remaining).

    To Boston: Villanueva (free agent), Stuckey (free agent), Miller (1 year remaining), Arthur (1 year remaining), 2015 first round draft pick from Detroit, 2015 round draft pick from Denver.

    To Denver: Jennings (2 years remaining).

     

     

     

    Rondo turns 28 and his no-shot skill set declines with age. That's without mentioning his recovery from knee surgery from which the track record is poor after the 1st year.

    Why would the Pistons take on ~$6mil in salary for this year and additional salary over the next two years (and give up a #1 next year!!!) for Rondo?

    In response to davidap's comment:
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    Second Trade -

    To Charlotte: Green (2 years remaining), Bogans (2 years remaining).

    To Boston: Gordon (free agent), earlier 2014 first round draft pick. Waive Gordon.

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    I like this trade. The Cs unload 2 toxic contracts for a 1st rounder and cap relief. Caveat: I like this trade because I'm a Cs fan. The reality is that if Ainge approached Charlotte with this trade, their GM would be insulted and would take it personally.

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    Third Trade -

    To Oklahoma City: Humphries (free agent)

    To Boston: Perkins (1 year remaining), Thabeet (1 year remaining), earlier 2014 first round draft pick.

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    I'm a Cs fan and I hate this deal. Perk's PER is a pathetic 6.1. Thabeet is 5.5. And yet, you want the Cs to take on $10mil in 2014-15 salary for 2 stiffs. That's not going to happen. Ainge would be the one insulted if approached with that deal.

    Psst. Rondo isn't a superstar and Perk sucks.

     
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    Re: Tank trades

    Your "team" has 5 Centers and no wing players!

     
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    Re: Tank trades

    Detroit and Charlotte would never do these trades, and why would you want to do the OKC trade?  Humphries expires at the end of the year, why take on perk and thabeet's contracts, and OKC will have the last or second to last pick, which is not very valuable. 

     
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    Re: Tank trades

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    Detroit and Charlotte would never do these trades, and why would you want to do the OKC trade?  Humphries expires at the end of the year, why take on perk and thabeet's contracts, and OKC will have the last or second to last pick, which is not very valuable. 

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    +1

     
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    Re: Tank trades

    In response to davidap's comment:
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    First Trade -

    To Detroit: Rondo (1 year remaining), Bass (2 years remaining), Wallace (2 years remaining).

    To Boston: Villanueva (free agent), Stuckey (free agent), Miller (1 year remaining), Arthur (1 year remaining), 2015 first round draft pick from Detroit, 2015 round draft pick from Denver.

    To Denver: Jennings (2 years remaining).

    Second Trade -

    To Charlotte: Green (2 years remaining), Bogans (2 years remaining).

    To Boston: Gordon (free agent), earlier 2014 first round draft pick. Waive Gordon.

    Third Trade -

    To Oklahoma City: Humphries (free agent)

    To Boston: Perkins (1 year remaining), Thabeet (1 year remaining), earlier 2014 first round draft pick.

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    Celtics roster heading into the draft (excluding free agents):

    1. C Joel Anthony (1 year player option)

    2. C Vitor Faverani (2 years remaining)

    3. C Kelly Olynyk (3 years remaining)

    4. C Kendrick Perkins (1 year remaining)

    5. C Hasheem Thabeet (1 year remaining)

    6. PF Jared Sullinger (2 years remaining)

    7. PF Darrell Arthur (1 year remaining)

    8. PG Andre Miller (1 year remaining)

    9. PG Phil Pressey (2 years remaining)


    2014 draft picks (by current mock projection):

    No. 8: Boston.

    No. 15: Charlotte (via Detroit).

    No. 20: Brooklyn (via Atlanta).

    No. 21: Oklahoma City (via Dallas).

     

    2015 draft picks (by current mock projection):

    No. 8: Boston.

    No. 14: Denver.

    No. 15: Detroit.

     

    Also note the massive payroll flexibility for a major free agent spending spree.

     

     

     

     

     

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    Wow. Yup. That is a tanking trade. That would absolutely be a complete rebuild scenario and would actually set us up for a pretty good future. I say keep Rondo, but based upon what I've seen, I think Jared and Avery along with (Jabari, Wiggins or Embiid) would be enough with Stevens to build a winning Culture from nothing.

     

    Not a bad idea. Well done!

     
  9. You have chosen to ignore posts from R9R. Show R9R's posts

    Re: Tank trades

    I think Charlotte does the trade. They need to get better. Jeff can help that (shhh)

    Not sure about Denver doing it... maybe

    And I also agree that the OKC trade is a little unnecesary, though I'd love to get a 1st for Hump.

     

     

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