Teams That may be looking to move a center

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    Teams That may be looking to move a center

    The Cavaliers are 8-27, the Washington Wizards are 4-27, Minnesota and Utah are .500, The Suns are 12-22, the Kings are 13-21 and the Hornets are 7-25.  All have a big man that would help this roster.

    Cavaliers have Verajo

    Wizards have Haywood

    Minnesota has Love

    Utah has Big Al

    Suns have Gortat

    Kings have Cousins and Thompson

    Hornets have Anderson

    Lakers have Gasol

    There is a deal to be made for a big in this league and we have pieces to do it.  New Orleans is intriguing because Bass is from Baton Rouge.  Anderson can fill the bucket and pull down boards.

     

     
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    In response to red2004sox's comment:

    The Cavaliers are 8-27, the Washington Wizards are 4-27, Minnesota and Utah are .500, The Suns are 12-22, the Kings are 13-21 and the Hornets are 7-25.  All have a big man that would help this roster.

    Cavaliers have Verajo

    Wizards have Haywood

    Minnesota has Love

    Utah has Big Al

    Suns have Gortat

    Kings have Cousins and Thompson

    Hornets have Anderson

    Lakers have Gasol

    There is a deal to be made for a big in this league and we have pieces to do it.  New Orleans is intriguing because Bass is from Baton Rouge.  Anderson can fill the bucket and pull down boards.

     



    Bucks have Dalembert

     
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    Re: Teams That may be looking to move a center

    True dat

     
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    Re: Teams That may be looking to move a center

    hope he stays with them as well.

     
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    The Heat may be looking at Dalembert:

    The Samuel Dalembert Chatter

    LeBron James and the Miami Heat have struggled to rebound and defend the interior this season, and their fanbase has taken note of Samuel Dalembert's spot on the bench with the Bucks. The Heat defense hasn't been up-to-par (they are No. 16 in defensive efficiency) and they rank in the bottom-half of the association in all advanced rebounding-rate categories, so Dalembert would be a good fit. 

    Even LeBron has admitted that they may not have the right mix of players to compete on the boards right now (via the Sun Sentinel):

    "We don't have a dominant rebounder," forward LeBron James said. "Collectively, we've got to try to help rebound with one another. Right now, we don't have the size, the athleticism to go up there and dominate a rebounding game. We're trying to collectively do it together, try not to give them second-chance points. We're getting killed in that, too."

    "Rebounding is not something you work on, it's a knack," James said. "You go up and get rebounds however you do it. You block out, get a rebound. You see it in the air and you kind of read it off the rim. It's not like grade school, where five guys would box out and let the ball hit the ground once and then go get it. It's a knack. Some guys have it, some guys don't. As a collective group, we don't have it right now."

    I think LeBron worked his way into a tricky spot with that quote, because if rebounding is "knack" that comes naturally and that it can't be worked on, then Miami needs to add someone to solve the problem.

    Dalembert has that knack, but he's been buried on the Bucks' bench for the better part of the past two months. Heat fans have recently started asking Sun Sentinel reporter Ira Winderman about a potential trade. Winderman isn't exactly impressed with the option, and it's because the Bucks and Heat match up poorly when it comes to assets. Who would the Bucks want to take back for the veteran center? Here's a look at the Heat roster, via Basketball Reference:

     

      Salary  Player Cap Hit 2012-13 2013-14 2014-15 2015-16 2016-17 Signed Using Guaranteed Chris Bosh* $17,545,000 $17,545,000 $19,067,500 $20,590,000 $22,112,500   Bird Rights $57,202,500 LeBron James* $17,545,000 $17,545,000 $19,067,500 $20,590,000 $22,112,500   Bird Rights $57,202,500 Dwyane Wade* $17,182,000 $17,182,000 $18,673,000 $20,164,000 $21,655,000   Bird Rights $56,019,000 Mike Miller* $5,800,000 $5,800,000 $6,200,000 $6,600,000     Cap Space $12,000,000 Udonis Haslem* $4,060,000 $4,060,000 $4,340,000 $4,620,000     Cap Space $8,400,000 Mario Chalmers* $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000       Bird Rights $4,000,000 Joel Anthony* $3,750,000 $3,750,000 $3,800,000 $3,800,000     Bird Rights $7,550,000 Shane Battier* $3,135,000 $3,135,000 $3,270,000       Mini MLE $6,405,000 Ray Allen* $3,090,000 $3,090,000 $3,229,050       Mini MLE $3,090,000 James Jones* $1,500,000 $1,500,000 $1,500,000       Bird Rights $1,500,000 Rashard Lewis* $1,352,181 $1,352,181 $1,399,507       Minimum Salary $1,352,181 Norris Cole* $1,082,520 $1,082,520 $1,129,200 $2,038,206     1st Round Pick $2,211,720 Dexter Pittman* $854,389 $854,389         Cap Space $854,389 Terrel Harris* $762,195 $762,195         Minimum Salary   Josh Harrellson* $762,195 $762,195         Minimum Salary   James Jones $1,757,161 $1,757,161           $1,757,161 Juwan Howard $854,389               Team Totals $85,032,030 $84,177,641 $85,675,757 $78,402,206 $65,880,000     $219,544,451

    Data courtesy Basketball-Reference.com.

     

     

    The only (reasonable) option that interests me is Norris Cole (he can play some defense, for what I've read) -- although James Jones can hit some threes -- but someone like Joel Anthony or Udonis Haslem would have to go the Bucks to match salaries, and I'm not interested in adding any long-term money when Dalembert's deal could just expire at the end of the season. It would be a nice gesture to a vet like Dalembert to deal him to a team that would use him, but any move would leave Joel Przybilla next in line at center if injuries knocked Larry Sanders or Ekpe Udoh out of the lineup.

    Are you interested in either deal? Pass along your thoughts in the comments.

     

     
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    Re: Teams That may be looking to move a center

    How about Okafur.  His salary is a little high but I don't pay the bills.  He rebounds and blocks shots.  He might could be had.

    I am not picky at this point.  I just want a big guy that can do something.  I only want to see Collins in rare instances.

     
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    Re: Teams That may be looking to move a center

    In response to red2004sox's comment:

    The Cavaliers are 8-27, the Washington Wizards are 4-27, Minnesota and Utah are .500, The Suns are 12-22, the Kings are 13-21 and the Hornets are 7-25.  All have a big man that would help this roster.

    Cavaliers have Verajo

    Wizards have Haywood

    Minnesota has Love

    Utah has Big Al

    Suns have Gortat

    Kings have Cousins and Thompson

    Hornets have Anderson

    Lakers have Gasol

    There is a deal to be made for a big in this league and we have pieces to do it.  New Orleans is intriguing because Bass is from Baton Rouge.  Anderson can fill the bucket and pull down boards.

     



    Now that Kevin Love has refractured his hand, will Minny be looking to move him?  If they might then he is the best fit for Boston.  However, Minny will not be interested in our tradeable players.

     
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    In response to BCSP's comment:

    Bucks have Dalembert



    Who knows.  That may turn out to be the best fit for Boston.  He will fit in well at backup 5.

     
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    Re: Teams That may be looking to move a center

    Also, the Nuggets have Mozgov (definately available)!

     
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    In response to OneOnOne's comment:

    How about Okafur.  His salary is a little high but I don't pay the bills.  He rebounds and blocks shots.  He might could be had.

    I am not picky at this point.  I just want a big guy that can do something.  I only want to see Collins in rare instances.



    The only issue with Okafor is his salary: 13-mil this year and 14-mil next year. 

     
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    Re: Teams That may be looking to move a center

    some move has to be made for a big man, but it's all about what the other teams are willing to take. 

    I'd be willing to move some combination of green, lee, terry, melo, bass, barbosa, and our next years first (if lottery protected).

    I wouldn't move AB or Sullinger as (along with rondo) they represent the only semblance of a future this team has.

    rondo is going nowhere. can't get any value for pierce, garnett, and wilcox.

    if utah is not intent on signing big al he is making 15m and is a ufa after this season. 

    gortat turned down an extension offer and is only making 7.7m per. 

    think the others on the list either make too much, could not be obtained, or wouldn't help the celtics enough to make a deal. thinking about cousins (who comes with huge baggage) and varejao is dreaming. it'd likely take AB, sullinger, next years first, and then some to even get in the conversation. ain't happening. Love? hah. he's the franchise. rondo, sullinger, AB, and the first probably still doesn't get it done. gasol? don't think LA makes a deal with boston, but he makes just under 20 million, has played horribly this year, and it'd probably take rondo to get the deal done. if it was green, lee, and someone like terry why not? if he's got anything left in the tank you potentially make a run at a title for the next two years. that's about the shelf life for this team anyway. gasol, garnett, pierce, rondo, AB isn't a bad starting line-up. still would have sullinger, barbosa, wilcox, bass coming off the bench. pick-up another bench player maybe. you might actually make some noise in the playoffs. 

    dalembert is at best a back-up player and while anything would help at this point he can't move, can't score, and has gotten old quick. he can block shots and rebound, but unless he's one of two bigs they plan to pick-up don't see him changing much. he's also only played in only total 16 games this year and he's so deep in scott skiles' doghouse he has gotten 9 DNPs in a row. could very well be available and it would be an okay pick-up if it was one of two moves. 

    hopefully they find a way to bring in legitimate big man for some combo that doesn't involve sully or AB, het wilcox back, return to playing the hard nose D they have been known for and start clicking again. I'm afraid though that if they don't find a quality big nothing they do will make a difference come playoff time. 

     
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