The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class

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    The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class

    They tried to save other industry via bail outs. Why not save all the midlle class jobs that are lost when these millionares and billionares squabble and lie.

    The middle class loses out, and suffer the most.

    Congress should mediate so that the financial truth comes out and everything is negotiated fairly quickly without damaging the already fragile middle class.

    This should at least be the case for the major sports. Regulating ticket prices to make them more affordable would also be a BIG win for politicians.
     
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    In Response to The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class:
    [QUOTE]They tried to save other industry via bail outs. Why not save all the midlle class jobs that are lost when these millionares and billionares squabble and lie. The middle class loses out, and suffer the most. Congress should mediate so that the financial truth comes out and everything is negotiated fairly quickly without damaging the already fragile middle class. This should at least be the case for the major sports. Regulating ticket prices to make them more affordable would also be a BIG win for politicians.
    Posted by DaCeltics[/QUOTE]

    Let's see:

    60% of the people don't want the president in office

    75% of the people think the congress is doing a bad job

    66% of the people think the country is going in the wrong direction

    he who governs less, governs best.... last time I checked we live in a capitalistic / free market economy.......

    the government is the absolute last thing that either of the league's need.... we already have way too much regulation in business and the last thing we need is to bring the government in any way into the negotiations.....

    the government can do nothing more effectively or more efficiently than just about any business on the planet.......

    Communist China is more capitalistic than the USA at this point but somehow the government would help the negotiations?  

    All set with that, thanks.
     
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    That's really my point. You don't want the government to force their way in, so stop the greedy shenanigans!
     
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    In Response to Re: The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class:
    [QUOTE]In Response to The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class : Let's see: 60% of the people don't want the president in office 75% of the people think the congress is doing a bad job 66% of the people think the country is going in the wrong direction he who governs less, governs best.... last time I checked we live in a capitalistic / free market economy....... the government is the absolute last thing that either of the league's need.... we already have way too much regulation in business and the last thing we need is to bring the government in any way into the negotiations..... the government can do nothing more effectively or more efficiently than just about any business on the planet....... Communist China is more capitalistic than the USA at this point but somehow the government would help the negotiations?   All set with that, thanks.
    Posted by TheDUDDER[/QUOTE]

    All-Around good points.  The stench of entitlements are spoiling the very fabric of this country.  This is one thing Lakers and Celtics fans alike can agree on.
     
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    I really hope you are joking , the fed's cant take care of themselves.

     
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    What a pathetic thread.
    The NBA should regulate NBA ticket prices????
    Should Obama give a Cabinet position to the person in charge of this department?
     
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    In Response to Re: The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class:
    [QUOTE]In Response to The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class : Let's see: 60% of the people don't want the president in office 75% of the people think the congress is doing a bad job 66% of the people think the country is going in the wrong direction he who governs less, governs best.... last time I checked we live in a capitalistic / free market economy....... the government is the absolute last thing that either of the league's need.... we already have way too much regulation in business and the last thing we need is to bring the government in any way into the negotiations..... the government can do nothing more effectively or more efficiently than just about any business on the planet....... Communist China is more capitalistic than the USA at this point but somehow the government would help the negotiations?   All set with that, thanks.
    Posted by TheDUDDER[/QUOTE]

    Excuse me, but where do you get your facts? The lack of regulation of Wall Street and with banks is precisely what got us into this mess in the first place.
     
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    In Response to Re: The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class : All-Around good points.  The stench of entitlements are spoiling the very fabric of this country.  This is one thing Lakers and Celtics fans alike can agree on.
    Posted by icnd[/QUOTE]

    The return of Boston's Archie Bunkers. Welcome back Arch.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class : The return of Boston's Archie Bunker's. Welcome back Arch.
    Posted by lakersavenger[/QUOTE]

    He's a lakers fan, Edith!
     
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    In Response to Re: The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class : He's a lakers fan, Edith!
    Posted by Red-16Russ-11[/QUOTE]

    Well it just goes to show ya', even Lakers fans can be Tea Party buffoons.
     
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    In Response to Re: The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class : Well it just goes to show ya', even Lakers fans can be Tea Party buffoons.
    Posted by lakersavenger[/QUOTE]

    www.thefreedictionary.com/buffoon -

    You mean, like someone who "predicts" the  Bruins will choke, then claim after they win that he was drunk, so I was only kidding?  That kind of buffoon?
     
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    Sports has no place for the govt.  Stay the H E L L out!!!!
     
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    In Response to Re: The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class : www.thefreedictionary.com/ buffoon - You mean, like someone who "predicts" the  Bruins will choke, then claim after they win that he was drunk, so I was only kidding?  That kind of buffoon?
    Posted by Red-16Russ-11[/QUOTE]
    Next time I'll be careful to use words that you don't have to look up in the dictionary. And why do you care what I say about Bostonians, you're from Mayberry and you're a closeted Lakers fan.
     
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    In Response to Re: The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class : Next time I'll be careful to use words that you don't have to look up in the dictionary. And why do you care what I say about Bostonians, you're from Mayberry and you're a closeted Lakers fan.
    Posted by lakersavenger[/QUOTE]

    Drop dead!
     
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    The guys that own the NBA should regulate it , it is their business.
     
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    In Response to The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class:
    [QUOTE]They tried to save other industry via bail outs. Why not save all the midlle class jobs that are lost when these millionares and billionares squabble and lie. The middle class loses out, and suffer the most. Congress should mediate so that the financial truth comes out and everything is negotiated fairly quickly without damaging the already fragile middle class. This should at least be the case for the major sports. Regulating ticket prices to make them more affordable would also be a BIG win for politicians.
    Posted by DaCeltics[/QUOTE] y not? the govt certainly doesnt have enough on its plate to mess up.. are u nuts? y not have the govt get involved in wisconsin and.. we need govt doing less and spending less not getting invoved in the trivialities of sports.. this is how the free market works. they will figure it out. u want al gore running the leagues? bill clinton? obama? newt gingrich? make the nba a political extension as they did with GM? oh please....
     
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    Re: The federal government needs to regulate the Pro sports industry for the sake of the middle class

    First of all, the NBA, just like all pro-sports are partially but significantly funded by the people. Who do you think pays for the stadiums where pro sports occur? These wealthy owners get their palms greased by the people, many of whom can't afford to attend a game and far too often have no say whether they want their taxes increased to support a pro sport.

    Second, the NBA does not function as a "free market system." Teams over the cap are taxed to subsidize smaller markets. It functions as a socialist institution.

    Third, when a NBA team is given a market, no one else is allowed in. This is called collusion, functioning like any monopoly or oligopoly.

    As for Obama "creating the welfare state," it was Bush  who generated more federal debt than the 42 presidents before him combined. There is a party that is corporatist and that's the Republicans. Not that I like Obama because it's more the system that is corrupt.
     
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    The word collusion really reminds me of the Gasols in the NBA. lol
     
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    [QUOTE]Sports has no place for the govt.  Stay the H E L L out!!!!
    Posted by jdm894g[/QUOTE]

    My feelings exactly

    Yes, the banks need to be reigned in and unfortunately they will bribe their way out of the justice they deserve

    but SPORTS ARE DISCRETIONARY EXPENSES.  If people want to blow their money and people want to make money on people who blow their money on sports, let them be

    Get rid of the farm subsidies

    Get rid of the oil subsidies

    Simplify the tax code to get rid of loopholes like the mortgage interest tax writeoff that mostly benefits the rich who own massive and expensive houses

    LOWER the corporate tax to get jobs to return to America - companies no longer want to operate here because our 35% corporate tax is among the highest in the world

    Eliminate the public unions - unions of CIVIL SERVICE workers shouldn't exist to protect them against the government they willingly chose to serve.  They drive up taxpayer expense by expecting private-sector level pay with absurd amounts of job security when their marginal product of labor is much lower.  I support the rights of people to collectively bargain in the private sector, but the need for government workers to unionize is pathetic.  If they want competitive pay and benefits, they should leave their cushy public jobs and compete in the private sector for that pay and those benefits.

    Make education more accountable - teachers shouldn't be judged on CURRENT standardized test scores.  The standardized tests should be replaced to reflect a broader and more difficult curriculum.  Right now, high school students and below aren't universally tested on physics, earth sciences, calculus, philosophy, literature, world history, music, art, and a number of other topics that would expose them to the ideas necessary for them to develop critical thinking and unique perspectives needed to drive future American innovation forward.  And yes, art and music matter almost as much as a list of literatary works that every American student should have to read, or especially physics and calculus in an age where America is no longer producing top science and engineering talent.  More money isn't the answer, though.  America already spends more money per student than almost any other country.  Instead, hold teachers more accountable for the standards that matter, like a broad and difficult standardized test that doesn't exclude important material like physics and calculus.  In the age of databsing, there's no reason that teachers and schools can't also be held accountable for the employment rate, high school graduation rate, college graduation rate, and crime rate of their students.

    Repeal federal healthcare TEMPORARILY.  The reason that top science and engineering and math talent come here from China, South Korea, India, etc is that we offer the best standard of living.  Opportunity isn't just trying to push your way into the exclusive society of multimillionaires and billionaires, but also knowing that you and your family will have access to healthcare and education.  But we shouldn't finance healthcare through debt.  A simplified tax code with fewer loopholes and a lower corporate tax will help get the government budget back on track so we can afford sweeping benefits like this in the future (so top international talent keeps coming here instead of going to other countries who are also offering good benefits to its citizens).  I don't think we should finance public healthcare through debt, though.

    As for the banks, I would like to see "alternative investments" severely limited if not eliminated.  If banks could no longer make money off of m*st*rbating numbers into questionable options, derivatives, and futures, they might have to invest in companies that produce REAL PRODUCTS THAT IMPROVE THE LIVES OF AMERICANS.  Furthermore, top American intellectual talent might be more committed to the types of innovation that we need and that banks would be investing in instead of number m*st*rbation

    On a side note, we need less lawyers and an overhaul of our justice system.  I'm not sure how to go about doing this, but this needs to be explored because justice should not be a capitalist venture, and yet it is.  Money shouldn't alter justice, but yet it does.  And law is draining almost as much of America's academic talent as banking, if not more (more prestigious?).  If top law talent was committed to innovation or other obstaces facing America today, I have to view that as a positive.  The free market seems to be reflecting an oversupply of law talent right now, but the free market is slow to react and I don't think we can afford to wait an entire generation for people to realize that the law field has become overcrowded and convoluted.  If we could steer that talent elsewhere now, I think that would be beneficial.

    As for employment, I no longer believe that the government is capable of spending efficiently.  The academic school of thought suggests that the government can spend money more efficiently than the private citizen who will save it.  But this ignores all of the intangible obstacles, like special interests, pork barrel spending, politicking, etc.  Put money back into the hands of the people, especially the bottom two tax brackets who would instantly spend it on bills or goods rather than giving it to the rich who are NOT investing and NOT spending and would rather stash/hoard/save it.  The bottom two tax brackets would be given cash to spend, and they'd stimulate the economy instantly.  So put money in the hands of the people, especially the people who need it.  Yes, this is a transfer payment, but this is better than any other program in place right now.

    Do something to make Americans more mobile.  I don't think Americans are willing to move for jobs, making the free market more inefficent.  Offer some kind of incentive to companies and/or workers to relocate for jobs.

    That's all for now.  I know this is a sports forum, but I wanted to get some of my thoughts out there for public consumption to see what people think.  I think they're good ideas, if unrealistic.
     
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    For a boston forum, I'm reading a lot of economically sound thinking in this thread.  For example, you're not really much of a communist, are you contrarian?
     
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    Mployee8

    Remember this?

    Re: Can the C's risk losing Baby in a deal for Rudy Fernandez?

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    In Response to Re: Can the C's risk losing Baby in a deal for Rudy Fernandez?:
    A) Shaq (6.3m), Rudy (1.2m) & Tolliver (1.5m) to C's for Sheed (6.3m), BBD (3m) #1 Pick B) Sheed (6.3m), Bayless (2.3m) & Przybilla (7.4m) to Cavs for Shaq (6.3m) & Mo Williams (9.3m) C) Mo Will (9.3m), BBD (3m) & #1 pick to Portland for Przy (7.4m), Tolliver (1.5), Bayless (2.3m) & Rudy (1.2m) Why would the Blazers want Mo Williams when they have Andre Miller. And Tolliver is not the property of the Blazers so there's no way what you just proposed is a 3-way deal. Before you come up with trade scenarios I think you should also consider if the other teams involved would benefit from the trade. Trades are suppose to help all parties involved, not just the Celtics. 
    Posted by ConnectingRod


    Thought Miller left as a FA ... Tolliver is an UFA and played for them before doing 10 dayers with GS. Think Portland may have non-bird rts.
     

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