The MAIN reason we lost!!!

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    The MAIN reason we lost!!!

    Reading various discussions, most said we came out flat, we couldn’t hit 3s, we didn’t defend well & gave them too many open shots and that for the most part, stats were relatively even, foul shots, turnovers, shooting %s etc.  All of the aforementioned is true. And we won the 2nd half & were within 4 pts, I think, when the Rondo incident happened.  Some refs are complete Turkeys and many are former athletes & should realize players get emotional & not easy when one feels wronged on a play to bite your tongue but it would be egregious for Rondo to be suspended another game as the video shows he followed the ref talking to him & stepped on the ref’s foot & fell forward.

    Here's the MAIN reason & the reason we lose most games…we got outrebounded 50 to 41 !!!  With 9 extra chances they can get 18 extra points and more if some are 3s. We need shoot 5-10% more than our opponents not just be equal. Don’t need to be Sherlock Holmes here but the Lakers can get away with mediocre shooting, even 35-40% if they can get 10+ rebs.  Don’t know how far we’ll go in the playoffs. I feel we’ll beat the Hawks & have a good chance with the Bulls with Rose out. Again, not Sherlock Holmes here, but next year our main objective we must draft 2 Centers, 6-11 to 7ft and a PF 6-10.  Rebounding advantages wins championships and can make up for poorer %s in other categories !!!
     
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    How about Pierce, KG and Bass going 16-45???
     
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    [QUOTE]How about Pierce, KG and Bass going 16-45???
    Posted by hedleylamarr[/QUOTE]

    You are absolutely correct !!! With them making more shots, obviously you need not be concerned with rebounds but I'm saying that rebounding gives you another chance. Hate to bring it up but we shot 40% vs Lakers Game 7 & they only 32% and Kobe(6/24) or 25% but their rebounding advantage(forget the egregious unfair gift of 37-17 foul shots) gave their mediocre shooters extra chances...even a blind chipmunk can find an acorn occasionally. 
     
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    [QUOTE]Reading various discussions, most said we came out flat, we couldn’t hit 3s, we didn’t defend well & gave them too many open shots and that for the most part, stats were relatively even, foul shots, turnovers, shooting %s etc.  All of the aforementioned is true. And we won the 2nd half & were within 4 pts, I think, when the Rondo incident happened.  Some refs are complete Turkeys and many are former athletes & should realize players get emotional & not easy when one feels wronged on a play to bite your tongue but it would be egregious for Rondo to be suspended another game as the video shows he followed the ref talking to him & stepped on the ref’s foot & fell forward. Here's the MAIN reason & the reason we lose most games…we got outrebounded 50 to 41 !!!  With 9 extra chances they can get 18 extra points and more if some are 3s. We need shoot 5-10% more than our opponents not just be equal. Don’t need to be Sherlock Holmes here but the Lakers can get away with mediocre shooting, even 35-40% if they can get 10+ rebs.  Don’t know how far we’ll go in the playoffs. I feel we’ll beat the Hawks & have a good chance with the Bulls with Rose out. Again, not Sherlock Holmes here, but next year our main objective we must draft 2 Centers, 6-11 to 7ft and a PF 6-10.  Rebounding advantages wins championships and can make up for poorer %s in other categories !!!
    Posted by mandobello[/QUOTE]

    But couple of the rebounds, there were three celtics fighting for the rebounds and then the ball ended up in Atlanta player's hand.

    Celtics were not just going after any loose ball!!!!!  More they fight for the loose ball, they would have more rebounds.  
     
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    we win games b/c guys like PP, Bass and KG shoot 45-55% from the floor

    and b/c we play great defense

    we always get outrebounded, dating back to the '10 season, its why we are 4,3,4 seeds in the playoffs last 3 years and not 1 & 2 like in '08/'09 (that and injuries/weak bench)

    so no, getting outrebounded by 9 is a common thing for this team, I'd like it to be closer to even, but if those 3 guys shot 45% instead of 35 we have an extra 9-11 points, 50% an extra 13-15 points and 55% an extra 17-19 points...

    And thats typically what they do
     
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    The poor rebounding was hugh, Garnett going 1-10 on the first of his 19 footers and Pierce shooting 5-19 contributed but we made zero three point shots so the absence of Ray Allen had to be as big as anything.
     
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    poor shooting combined with not enough second chances let the game get out of hand early
     
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    [QUOTE]poor shooting combined with not enough second chances let the game get out of hand early
    Posted by redsoxfan94[/QUOTE]
    Yup ... there it is. Plus, god-awful defense in the first quarter.
     
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    All of you guys are correct...KG, Allen(not in game I know), PP & Bass usually shoot 50%. We are a better perimeter shooting team than most but in so many games we live or die on the jump shot. Other than Rondo, AB & PP, not too many others can dribble to the basket. And one of the reasons we are a better defending team is not under the basket getting rebounds, we are back better prepared to defend.

    Yes, I know we most always get rebounded---this is not new news and there ain't much we can do about it at this stage. My point is, and I think DA & Doc know this, going forward next year & not needing to shoot 45-50% night after night, we must draft 2 centers(can't have enough) and a 6'-10" PF. Then with KG, Stiemsma, Wilcox too, we can contend for sure at least breaking even on rebounds. I think our PG situation is excellent & we need not draft in this area.
     
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    We lost this games cause:
    -We played totally out of rhythm in the first half, no power, no legs, no defense, no hustle, flat shooting.
    - This happens more often to a team coming out of rest, and not beeing prepared for the game.
    - This slightly changed in the 2nd half when KG and Pierce appeared at the defensive end.

    If we lose the series, then the reasons are different:
    - We are scary thin, and after Ray went down our bench might be the worst in the league.
    - Without Ray we are a below average shooting team from 3-land. This takes into account, our shooting-%, the experience in tight situations (our best shooters save Pierce are rookies), and the slow trigger (most of them are set shooter who just have a chance of hitting when completely open).
    - The worst of it all: Seems like Bass (what a horrible game) and Bradley (even he did ok for his first post season game) are totally overmatched from the hawks size/athletic ability at the 4 and 2 position.
    - I didnt even mention Rondo being out for game 2.
     
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    Boston lost the game because:

    They weren't good enough!!
     
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    Part of our bad shooting in the first half was an out of synch offense. We got good shots but out of rythym and you'll find most players make a lower % of even wide open shots when it goes up out of rythym.

    Then of course, our bad shooting again. AB didnt have a good game but he got many open shots that he nailed during the season. In game 1, they just didnt go down. Ditto PP.. Not much you can do when you miss your shots,,

    Poor rebounding goes without saying. Just watch when we put up a shot, the bigs usually turn and run back on defense. So we sacrifice offensive rebounds to make sure we'reset defensively. Is that a good strategy?? I sure couldnt tell you.
     
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    There is but ONE REASON why we lost this game- the "great athlete" Bland-One Bass did not bother to show up.  He played HORRIBLE DEFENSE on Josh Smith who ended up with 22 and 18 and then did VERY LITTLE on offense for us.

    That's where it starts and ends- no other match up was given away quite like Bass v. Smith.  Then when KG had to come try to guard an ALREADY hot smith, that didn't work either and Bland-One piled up the fouls as he got outfoxed by 6-11 300 pounds Collins who just walked him down deep in the paint and did whatever he wanted.

    Say what you want, but all you Basslovers, this is what you get when you trade away a Glen Davis who could EAT MINUTES AT THE FIVE and then over-stretch KG's faculties by calling him a 5. 

    Danny is either dumb or just doesn't care putting KG up against guys like Collins, Bynum, Howard, Duncan who are just simply either much heavier and/or much stronger than KG. 

    When you trade a guy who can do TWO THINGS (4 and 5) for a guy who can do (ONLY ONE THING) then you have to also get an additional piece to help at the 5, that is NOT named Ryan Hollins or Wilcox, guys who are wispier than KG.

    But the WORST THING ABOUT THIS GREAT ATHLETE BASS is the simple statistical fact that he can do SOOO MUCH LESS than Davis as far as help defense, footwork, pick setting, getting around picks, ball handling, passing, but he's the SAME per minute statistical rebounder Davis was last year for us!!  And so many people complained about Davis but nothing but praise for Bass.

    go figure- i guess this whole celtic fan thing is a beauty contest whereas it used to be about being able to tell who the better player was.  davis did tons of off stat sheet positive things for us and bass does NONE and can't play a lick at the 5 spot.
     
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    Josh Smith: 18 rebounds, Brandon Bass: 5
     
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    Josh Smith: 22 points  Brandon Bass: 7
     
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    [QUOTE]There is but ONE REASON why we lost this game- the "great athlete" Bland-One Bass did not bother to show up.  He played HORRIBLE DEFENSE on Josh Smith who ended up with 22 and 18 and then did VERY LITTLE on offense for us. That's where it starts and ends- no other match up was given away quite like Bass v. Smith.  Then when KG had to come try to guard an ALREADY hot smith, that didn't work either and Bland-One piled up the fouls as he got outfoxed by 6-11 300 pounds Collins who just walked him down deep in the paint and did whatever he wanted. Say what you want, but all you Basslovers, this is what you get when you trade away a Glen Davis who could EAT MINUTES AT THE FIVE and then over-stretch KG's faculties by calling him a 5.  Danny is either dumb or just doesn't care putting KG up against guys like Collins, Bynum, Howard, Duncan who are just simply either much heavier and/or much stronger than KG.  When you trade a guy who can do TWO THINGS (4 and 5) for a guy who can do (ONLY ONE THING) then you have to also get an additional piece to help at the 5, that is NOT named Ryan Hollins or Wilcox, guys who are wispier than KG. But the WORST THING ABOUT THIS GREAT ATHLETE BASS is the simple statistical fact that he can do SOOO MUCH LESS than Davis as far as help defense, footwork, pick setting, getting around picks, ball handling, passing, but he's the SAME per minute statistical rebounder Davis was last year for us!!  And so many people complained about Davis but nothing but praise for Bass. go figure- i guess this whole celtic fan thing is a beauty contest whereas it used to be about being able to tell who the better player was.  davis did tons of off stat sheet positive things for us and bass does NONE and can't play a lick at the 5 spot.
    Posted by aciemvp[/QUOTE]

    You really think that Bass is the only reason the Celtics lost.  I don't even know what to say man. Also you miss the point.  It isn't that Bass is that good, but Davis isn't that good either.  Davis wouldn't make any sort of difference for this team.  they are both average players.  Get over it.

     
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    LACK of Intensity is the MAIN reason we lost. They thought they were going to come out and Atlanta was going to lay down. They will bring it tonight.

     

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