The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern.

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    The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern.

    And I am so glad they didn't. Players were already giving too much by going down from 57% BRI to 52 1/2 BRI. How much more did the owners and Mr Stern want????? Sorry Mr Stern. Stern was so sure the players would fold by threatening the offer of the owners would go down from 50% to 47% and would get worst as time went by. Sorry Mr. Stern players just punch you in the mouth when least you expected it. Now what are you gonna do Mr, Stern???? I saw an interview with Mr. Stern and now he says he wasn't threatening the players LOL!!!!! How that work out Mr. Stern????
     
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    Re: The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7234180/nba-lockout-players-not-accept-deal-seek-disband-billy-hunter-says

    Is this guy serious????? What a joke. LOL!!!!
     
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    Re: The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern.

    The players have already folded.  They are all now without a Union to represent them.  Hunter told them they are pretty much on their own now, to sue the league and the owners.
    The expired CBA called for the players to get 57% of BRI.  They had a handshake deal on the last one that the new one would be 57-43 for the owners.  The players reneged on the deal, they didn't "give up" anything.

    And now, the owners will get what they want.  No more MeBrons or Melos telling them where they want to play.  No more Lakers out-spending everyone......no more no more (as the great Aerosmith song goes!!)
     
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    Re: The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern.

    We'll see. In the mean while we can watch this




     
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    Oh and the Celtics won't out spend anybody too. Or you didn't see how much they spent these last 3 or 4 seasons.
     
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    http://espn.go.com/boston/video/clip?id=7234953

    First time I agree with Rondo... LOL!!!
     
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    The players already folded... MrGKDynasty!

    The Jebster may have taught you a lot of things... but Basic Business 101 wasn't one of them.

    Pud
     
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    Re: The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern.

    Ok.
    I will not get into any argument with no one who will always believe that what they say is what is right.
     
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    In Response to Re: The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern.:
    Ok. I will not get into any argument with no one who will always believe that what they say is what is right.
    Posted by TheNewGKDynasty


    Your quote is "it is what it is"  and what it is -  is over!
     
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    Re: The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern.

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
     
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    http://espn.go.com/boston/video/clip?id=7234953 First time I agree with Rondo... LOL!!!
    Posted by TheNewGKDynasty


    Say what?????

    Rondo strung together a bunch of cliches that said nothing at all. (He should have kept his mouth shut.)

    Maybe he can go back to UK, get a degree in PE and apply for a 40K/year HS coaching job.

    Pud
     
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    Re: The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern.

    When I said the players would not fold I meant by the Bluff of Mr. Stern that the offers would get worse if they did not accept the current offer.
     
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    In Response to Re: The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern.:
    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
    Posted by TheNewGKDynasty


    It's YOUR thread man - don't post on here if you expect everyone to agree with you
     
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    I just won't get into arguments with you Russ because you will always look for the 5 paws of the cat when there are only 4. The bigest proof of that was when you said there would be a league without players.
     
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    When I said the players would not fold I meant by the Bluff of Mr. Stern that the offers would get worse if they did not accept the current offer.
    Posted by TheNewGKDynasty


    And if the next offer does indeed get worse, is that another bluff too????

    Pud
     
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    Re: The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern.

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    I just won't get into arguments with you Russ because you will always look for the 5 paws of the cat when there are only 4. The bigest proof of that was when you said there would be a league without players.
    Posted by TheNewGKDynasty


    I'm not arguing!!  I've stated since July - that's JULY  - that the sides were too far apart - that the players have had it too soft - that the owners want it more like the other sports - I have been taken to task by you and others for my position - which is  - I predicted in July there would be no season - and now - what are you afraid to admit I'm right?
    And WHAT league without players?  What on earth are you talking about?
     
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    Re: The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern.

    If the players did this early we would have a season and they would have there 52%.
     
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    Re: The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern.

    The players blew it of this there is no doubt.  Stern is and never will be a good guy. These incredibly well payed players have lost touch with the fact that they are employed by businesses that are not as profitable as they were. Times are tough and these idiots should have realized the loss of a year of basketball was not in their interests.  Ask the NHL if you don't believe it.

    I am over it and the price they will pay will be steeper and steeper in the coming days. Morons.
     
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    In Response to Re: The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern.:
    If the players did this early we would have a season and they would have there 52%.
    Posted by BosoxJoe5


     Very possible.  And the fact that they didn't shows how under prepared they were for this.  Either under prepared, out of touch, or badly advised, or all three.

      the agents have likely been a bad and too strong of an influence on them, and it seems too many players are concerned with saving face.  If so, then pragmatism is out the window for the players.  And I find it hard to believe that half the players even want to go down this road for the sake of the other players misguided sense of winning.  They're being sold a vacuum cleaner by whoever is influencing them.

      I saw Stern as well and he just looked like he was over it.  I don't know if it gets uglier from here or if the players get what they want after this next faze runs course.  What I do know is that if the players had their act together sooner they would have decertified in the summer and would likely be playing games right about now.  And to think, the NFL players walked everyone through it months earlier, showing them how it's done.  It's not like they never heard of decertification.      
     
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    Re: The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern.

    In Response to Re: The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern.:
    In Response to Re: The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern. :  Very possible.  And the fact that they didn't shows how under prepared they were for this.  Either under prepared, out of touch, or badly advised, or all three.   the agents have likely been a bad and too strong of an influence on them, and it seems too many players are concerned with saving face.  If so, then pragmatism is out the window for the players.  And I find it hard to believe that half the players even want to go down this road for the sake of the other players misguided sense of winning.  They're being sold a vacuum cleaner by whoever is influencing them.   I saw Stern as well and he just looked like he was over it.  I don't know if it gets uglier from here or if the players get what they want after this next faze runs course.  What I do know is that if the players had their act together sooner they would have decertified in the summer and would likely be playing games right about now.  And to think, the NFL players walked everyone through it months earlier, showing them how it's done.  It's not like they never heard of decertification.      
    Posted by passfirst


    Players took a risk and lost.  They hoped that rather than play hard ball and decertify, they could work out a deal in negotiation and coming down from 57% to 52.5% (and clearly they would have gone to 51.5 or 51).  But, that didn't work and they lost valuable time and effectiveness.   

    Oh well, I wonder what's next.  Maybe Red is right - we may not see basketball this year at all.
     
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    Re: The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern.

    It appears Red was right.
     
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    Re: The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern.

    It's Monday night.

    Are you ready for some football?

    If you don't have an NFL team, Monday night means Basketball Wives LA. 
     
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    Re: The players will NOT fold Mr. Stern.

    What's on tonight isn't football......its a massacre in process!
     
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