The undisputed FACTS about the Howard situation

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    Boston or LA  I see 2 draft picks and 2 players to make that deal work. The only chip we have over LA is the Clippers pick
     
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    A big fact there isn't a good situation for Howard to get traded too,before the lockout. 
    The Hornets are in the same boat,unless Paul would agree to a trade to Boston for Rondo,if Howard told him. He would sign in Boston as a free agent.

    Heat could offer Lebron or Wade,but both those players would demand a trade,so they wouldn't play for Orlando.
     
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    Glamorous city? That leaves Boston out and L.A. in.
     
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    Young talent leaves L A  out.  Orlando doesn't want anyone on your team,while they might want Rondo. 
     
     I don't think Orando trades him until. he becomes a free agent and its a sign and trade.
     
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    In Response to Re: The undisputed FACTS about the Howard situation:
    Why does the racist non-fan post on a fan thread authored by someone who has him on ignore? "Posts from TheDUDDER are hidden"  sweetest 5 words on this forum. It does seem to leave Boston or LA. I'd like to discuss who is the better match with the real fans in a realistic way. clearly the only disadvantage is the glam of the city... and Howard is a bit of an attention hog goober But when it comes to the MAGIC and what they want (since they hold the key... extra years and MILLION in salary) how will it play out?
    Posted by rameakap


    And of course, ignore or otherwise, you stated no FACTS, and actually ignore the things that likely to happen.... keep ignoring and scratching your head every time you are wrong but learn a lot from me.

    Howard is an attention hog.... and umm... he gets it no matter where he plays so the city he plays in is irrelevant.  LeBron played in Cleveland and got every single endorsement that was available, not sure if you noticed but Orlando is a small market and Howard is all over the TV..... just keep ignoring the truth and then maybe some day you could wake up and find out what is actually going on and join in some of the intelligent conversation.

    Before the beginning I said that I thought the Heat would win in 7 and that most intelligent people thought the same thing and someone told me to dare come back on the board after the Cs win...... I don't think I have seen a post from that poster since............. it is ok to accept one's ineptitude and lack of knowledge but let's not let FACTS get in the way of a good story........  well at least not until some of the FACTS become FACTS.
     
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    The longer the Magic wait the less they get in compensation. See the scummy collusions efforts of LBJ/Bosh/Wade and the weak compensation toronto and cleveland got (picks around #30). Howard likely never see's 6/120 after July 1st of this year
    Posted by rameakap


    The Hawks could offer Horford and Smith and Teague. They seem to be the only team who could meet the requirements,but the way Horford and Smith playe din the playoffs hurt that possiblity.
     
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    How about New Jersey?
     
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    I'm not claiming facts, but I think that we could get Garnett back after he's bought out by the Magic.  The Magic would want the cap space to pursue someone in summer 2012, so Garnett, cheap player(s), and cash for Howard and a bad contract (that we might consider buying out for the right price).

    Turkoglu might be reborn as a bench gunner/swingman... I wouldn't want Arenas because of the off-court baggage
     
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    In Response to The undisputed FACTS about the Howard situation:
    : 1. Dwight wants a SIGN AND TRADE.... ASAP... because he knows he can get 6 years 120 million like LBJ/Bosh... RIGHT NOW... but after the CBA expires... POOF! That offer may never be seen again
    Posted by rameakap


    If the owners succeed in creating a hard cap, having a player with that kind of a contract may be very detrimental to the team.  They will just not have enough room to pay other good players.

    I don't think that Orlando will entertain Howard trade proposals.  Just look at the Melo situation.  Howard has a choice to sign this extension with them, or enable a mega trade where Magic get Denver like return, or become a free agent.  If Dwight is after money, he has much less leverage.
     
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    PIPE DREAMS are funny, exclusively for fan-based boards.

    Dwight Howard hasgiven absolutely NO INDICATION that he wants out of Orlando--ZERO. He's comfortable there and always reinforced the idea that he wants to WIN IN ORLANDO.

    If he were to leave, Howard wants to go to a media market. That means either New York or L.A. But Howard has shown NO inclination of wanting to leave the Magic.
     
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    Howard has already expressed that he does not want to come to Boston.

    Keep dreaming.  It's not going to happen.
     
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    Didn't KG say the same thing right before he agreed to go to Boston

    When did he say that? I've never heard that.

    That may change if Doc and Chris Paul are in Boston. What better coach is out there that guys want to play for? Poppovich maybe but they're situation is worse than the C's.

    Spo? No
    Van Gundy? No
    Thibs? Maybe
    Carlistle? Maybe
     
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    Who else can attract Howard if not LA? Here is the diff between our best offer and the Lakers: A 1st rd pick in the teens and an extra 50+ million in savings vs. Bynum. Do the Magic REALLY want to stay a 2nd rd playoff team and pin their hopes on an often injured punk?
    Posted by rameakap


    I could definitely see Howard being traded to LA for Bynum and another LA player, although, I am not sure who that would be. 
     
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    In Response to Re: The undisputed FACTS about the Howard situation : CP3's knee issues are worrisome. What type of deal is that going to be then?
    Posted by rameakap


    I think he could be had for Rondo, BBD, JON (contract) or Green and 2 #1s

    The C's could take back CP3, Ariza, Bellineli
     
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    That would work but I think we'd have to include BBD. If RA is included I would expect him to be bought out and return to Boston. Those negotiations would have to be clear before he picks up the player option he is due this year.
     
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    WOW! I doubt very seriously all that will and can happen.

    Remember we may be facing a hard cap or a franchise tag on one player. It would be better to get a deal done before July 1st.

    If we had to franchise one player then it would be Paul. Right now I don't think the C's could label a franchise player.
     
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    Young talent leaves L A  out.  Orlando doesn't want anyone on your team,while they might want Rondo.     I don't think Orando trades him until. he becomes a free agent and its a sign and trade.
    Posted by notrade


    Rondo over Bynum?

    HAHAHAHAHAAHA

    YOUR FUNNY!
     
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    Here are the facts:

    If DH is traded, he will NOT be going to a team within the east. (Orlando will not want to see him more than they have to)

    Age is not a factor- he's already said he would most like to play with KB24!

    Boston is NOT in the mix- he's already said he hates the slime green AND there is NO former celtic player running Orlando (unlike the KG rip-off) where he gets traded to beantown

    Kareem Abdul Jabbar has worked great stuff with Bynum on his post moves, the same area DH needs to work on. Who do Boston have, bring that offensive beast Robert Parish? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    DH craves a big market so as to maximize his off-court earnings, do I hear Hollywood?

    Climate- warm, sunny Orlando to wet, cold miserable beantown?? Hardly, try warm sunny LA!

    History- if not for the rape job McFale did on Minny, boston would still be insignificant. Ainge has never made a good franchise move however, the NBA'S greatest owner in Dr Buss is a beast and has kept the Lakers relevant since he took over.

    Lastly, DH has made no secret that the Lakers are on his radar. Boston has never been mentioned by him, except to say he hates the slime green. Orlando fans themselves recognize that a DH trade to the Lakers is gathering momentum and are doing their best to let DH know how much they want him.

    If DH is traded, he goes to the Lake Show. Boston has absolutely NO CHANCE!! You heard it here first boys and girls!

    http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/144284/20110511/dwight-howard-magic-lakers-bynum.htm


     
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    First the Lakers better get a coach.

    Second, the Lakers are going to have to give up Bynum and Gasol or Odom. The Lakers have nothing else. No young players.

    I haven't heard that Howard will not play for Boston.

    Don't underestimate the influence of Doc and the Big 3.

    I think the C's are more interested in getting CP3 anyway. Howard would be the icing on the cake.
     
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    No one wants Bynum LA been trying to trade him for years. He is a on again off again player and he hurt his image in the playoffs. Rumors are he is not a good fir in the lockeroom. Our draft pics with the new CBA comming are more attractive than Bynum. Otis will build from the ground floor up.
     
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    This is prob what it would have to be... Baby signs for the max extension we can give him under current CBA) 15% raise on his 3.3m salary = 3.8m. (years unimportant). Deal # 1 Rondo (10m), Ray (10m), Green (signs 5.9m qualifier), Baby (3.8m) and our #1 pick this year to New Orleans (29.7 million) for CP3 (16.4m) Okafor (12.6m) and Ariza (7m) to Boston (36 million) NO has a younger PG and SF, the combo of which is prob equal in production to CP3/Ariza, a draft pick and local boy Davis who takes Okafor's PF-C role at 10m less per year. Had they extended Paul at the max he'd make 18-20-22 million the years Rondo made 11-12-13 million. Green and Ariza are close to a financial a wash, once Green is extended at like 9m per. So 3 million more for Green thru the last 2 years of Ariza's deal and then 9 million more the year after. So NO saves themselves 5m next year (once Ray is bought-out), Okafor's 28 million...poof gone (if Baby signs for 1 year)... and Rondo gets 24 million less than Paul thru 2015. So it saves them like 40 million. Ray returns here for vet min
    Posted by rameakap



    Contrary to popular belief, there is a reason Rondo makes two thirds of what Paul makes..... he brings two thirds of the skills to the table.......duh..
     
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    "All-stars like our big 3 and LA's"  

    Not all of the "facts" are facts. Calling anyone, except Gasol (by default), on the Lakers an "all-star" after the rapist is iffy.  Who's left, O-dumb, Fisher, Artest?  Not really. Their trade bait amounts to blowing up the team because they'll have to give up Bynum and Gasol while Fisher is cooked and they don't have anyone to play the point.  I can't see LA as being attractive unless you might be speaking of the Clips in the immediate future.  

     
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    I'll spare you all from the idiotic DaCeltic trade ideas and whatever it is the racist DUDDER is gleefully babbling about right now (as we all know he hates the Celtics). Here are the FACTS about what Howard and the Magic will be looking to do: 1. Dwight wants a SIGN AND TRADE.... ASAP... because he knows he can get 6 years 120 million like LBJ/Bosh... RIGHT NOW... but after the CBA expires... POOF! That offer may never be seen again 2. The Magic will want young CHEAP players (rookie contracts/early 20's) and draft picks in a trade. 3. They will want to dump one or BOTH of their obscenely awful contracts in any deal (Turkoglu and Arenas) and save as much as possible to rebuild. 4. Howard will NOT want to go to a lotto team. He WILL want to play with 1-2 superstars. All-stars like our big 3 and LA's will be for 1-2 more years , but also guys his age (LA doesn't offer that - Celts do). 5. Howard will want a glamorous city. 6. Howard will want a franchise that is not a "mid-major' but a perennial power with a logo and history well-known worldwide.
    Posted by rameakap


    Let's try some of this.....

    Stars want to play where there are stars and there are no stars in Boston.

    Danny made a once in a career series of transactions mostly because he had two huge expiring contracts and he made the deal with his friend.

    There is no incentive for players to come here and lose.
     
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    In Response to Re: The undisputed FACTS about the Howard situation : The Hawks could offer Horford and Smith and Teague. They seem to be the only team who could meet the requirements,but the way Horford and Smith playe din the playoffs hurt that possiblity.
    Posted by notrade


    Let's see I am a team that just to the team that is the #1 seed and going to the ECF and I want to trade some of my key players to a team that will be completely irrelevant in a couple of years.

    So for some reason the Hawks that have a much younger core and a bright future against some of the actual contenders would like to trade several of their best players to a team that will be completely irrelevant ina a couple of years.... yeah that makes a lot of sense.....

    So I have 3 big brothers all of which are older than me and in a couple of years none of them will be even be able to play let alone contend but I should give them a couple of the best players on my team?  Or I can just continue to climb the ladder and then when they can no longer compete I will have one of the best teams...... let's make that trade.  duh.
     
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    I'll spare you all from the idiotic DaCeltic trade ideas and whatever it is the racist DUDDER is gleefully babbling about right now (as we all know he hates the Celtics). Here are the FACTS about what Howard and the Magic will be looking to do: 1. Dwight wants a SIGN AND TRADE.... ASAP... because he knows he can get 6 years 120 million like LBJ/Bosh... RIGHT NOW... but after the CBA expires... POOF! That offer may never be seen again 2. The Magic will want young CHEAP players (rookie contracts/early 20's) and draft picks in a trade. 3. They will want to dump one or BOTH of their obscenely awful contracts in any deal (Turkoglu and Arenas) and save as much as possible to rebuild. 4. Howard will NOT want to go to a lotto team. He WILL want to play with 1-2 superstars. All-stars like our big 3 and LA's will be for 1-2 more years , but also guys his age (LA doesn't offer that - Celts do). 5. Howard will want a glamorous city. 6. Howard will want a franchise that is not a "mid-major' but a perennial power with a logo and history well-known worldwide.
    Posted by rameakap


    5.  Howard will want a glamorous city.


    Ok, that pretty much eliminates Boston from consideration.  Lol. 
     
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