The undisputed FACTS about the Howard situation

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    http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports-sentinel-sports-now/2011/02/22/espn-host-predicts-dwight-howard-will-be-with-lakers-in-future/

    http://magicbasketballonline.wordpress.com/2011/05/09/dwight-howard-was-just-traded-to-the-l-a-lakers-i-think/

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/700525-nba-playoff-schedule-2011-start-times-news-and-bold-predictions/entry/81825-la-lakers-will-the-lakers-acquire-dwight-howard-and-chris-paul

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ycn-8362749

    http://www.businessinsider.com/dwight-howard-los-angeles-lakers-orlando-magic-2012-2010-12

    Under even the most optimistic view of the 2011-12 salary cap, the Lakers are poised to exceed it by a good $40 million. Same goes for the luxury tax; if there is one in the new CBA, owner Jerry Buss can plan on writing at least a $27 million check to the Kings and Timberwolves of the world for his star-studded payroll.

    So what is a shaken dynasty to do? Well, what the Lakers lack in payroll flexibility, they more than atone for with tradable assets. And it's time to start wondering what those assets -- namely, Gasol, Bynum and Odom -- might yield before Bryant's final years are needlessly wasted.

    Exhibit A in such a scenario is Magic center Dwight Howard, whose own team is at a similarly hopeless crossroads. Motivated by Miami's summer smorgasbord of free agents, the Magic panicked when they re-acquired Hedo Turkoglu and tried to resurrect Gilbert Arenas' sagging career. Orlando, with an expensive new arena to pay for, owes Turkoglu and Arenas $66.5 million over the next two seasons. With Howard approaching free agency, that's a recipe for disaster regardless of how the new collective bargaining agreement turns out.

    Of the teams Howard is likely to consider when exercising his early-termination option after next season -- sources say the Lakers, Knicks and Nets are the strong favorites -- L.A. is the one with the most attractive trade assets. The massive contracts attached to the Lakers' most desirable players also puts them in the rare position of being able to absorb either Arenas or Turkoglu as a way to soften the blow for Orlando.

    "Everybody knows that Dwight Howard wants to be a Laker," said a person familiar with the All-Star center's plans. "They're going to lose Dwight Howard for nothing. He's not staying there. Dwight Howard is going to be in the same mode as LeBron James."





     
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    The bottom line is a young 25 year old man named Dwight Howard has a complex, life altering, decision to make.  There are a lot of variables involved in Dwight’s decision and in how the Magic handle it (player options, collective bargaining agreements, trade rules, salaries, players involved, etc.).  The decision point is about a year away, but the trade talk will be constant until a) Dwight re-signs, or b) Dwight is traded.  Let’s give him some time to think about this life altering decision and most importantly, let’s give LIFE some time to play out.

    And while we’re waiting, repeat after me: Dwight Howard is not leaving Orlando. Dwight Howard is not leaving Orlando. Dwight Howard is not leaving Orlando.

    http://magicbasketballonline.wordpress.com/2011/05/09/dwight-howard-was-just-traded-to-the-l-a-lakers-i-think/

     
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    "Everybody knows that Dwight Howard wants to be a Laker,"

    Come on in Dr Buss!!
     
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    In Response to Re: The undisputed FACTS about the Howard situation:
    "Everybody knows that Dwight Howard wants to be a Laker," Come on in Dr Buss!!
    Posted by Laker-Nation32


    Looks like you got caught lying! Laughing


    “I love Orlando,” Howard said on the Dan Patrick Show. “The city has been very good to me and I would love to finish my career here. I want to win a championship and I want to win it in Orlando. … That’s all I’ve been thinking about.”


     
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    In Response to Re: The undisputed FACTS about the Howard situation:
    In Response to Re: The undisputed FACTS about the Howard situation : Looks like you got caught lying!  http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/03/07/say-it-on-the-radio-it-must-be-so/ “I love Orlando,” Howard said on the   Dan Patrick   Show. “The city has been very good to me and I would love to finish my career here. I want to win a championship and I want to win it in Orlando. … That’s all I’ve been thinking about.”
    Posted by kybested


    Lying?? No, Shaq said the same thing!!

    We all know how that worked out for Orlando huh.

    Tongue out
     
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    In Response to Re: The undisputed FACTS about the Howard situation : Lying?? No, Shaq said the same thing!! We all know how that worked out for Orlando huh.
    Posted by Laker-Nation32


    Before the season started I thought you trolls said the Lakers had the best player in Kobe, the best coach in Phil, the best frontcourt in the NBA, and the an improved bench. Why didn't the Lakers win a single game against the soft Dallas Mavs?

    Now you're hoping lightning strikes twice and Dwight Howard ends up with the Lakers. Keep hoping, troll! Laughing
     
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    The bottom line is a young 25 year old man named Dwight Howard has a complex, life altering, decision to make.  There are a lot of variables involved in Dwight’s decision and in how the Magic handle it (player options, collective bargaining agreements, trade rules, salaries, players involved, etc.).  The decision point is about a year away, but the trade talk will be constant until a) Dwight re-signs, or b) Dwight is traded.  Let’s give him some time to think about this life altering decision and most importantly, let’s give  LIFE  some time to play out. And while we’re waiting, repeat after me: Dwight Howard is not leaving Orlando. Dwight Howard is not leaving Orlando. Dwight Howard is not leaving Orlando. http://magicbasketballonline.wordpress.com/2011/05/09/dwight-howard-was-just-traded-to-the-l-a-lakers-i-think/
    Posted by Tachometrix


    Howard may indeed remain in Orlando.  I would imagine that if this happens, they will have roster changes to try to win a championship.  Not sure who will get traded, but I suppose it is possible that Dwight remains in Orlando. 
     
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    In Response to Re: The undisputed FACTS about the Howard situation : While it's possible I don't think it would be a wise move. http://hoopshype.com/salaries/orlando.htm As you can see the Magic and Lakers have the same problem, they're stuck with what they got until 2014.
    Posted by Fiercest34


    Huh?  The Lakers have 3 tradable assets, Odom, Bynum, and Gasol.  I wouldn't say they're stuck.
     
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    In Response to Re: The undisputed FACTS about the Howard situation:
    In Response to Re: The undisputed FACTS about the Howard situation : Looks like you got caught lying!  http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/03/07/say-it-on-the-radio-it-must-be-so/ “I love Orlando,” Howard said on the   Dan Patrick   Show. “The city has been very good to me and I would love to finish my career here. I want to win a championship and I want to win it in Orlando. … That’s all I’ve been thinking about.”
    Posted by kybested


    And athletes are always honest when they're talking to the press, right?
     
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    In Response to Re: The undisputed FACTS about the Howard situation : Huh?  The Lakers have 3 tradable assets, Odom, Bynum, and Gasol.  I wouldn't say they're stuck.
    Posted by icnd


    I think there is a fundamental flaw in just about every trade discussion I have seen.  Players with more than one year remaining on their contracts are not tradeable assets - they are gigantic liabilities given that there will be a new CBA which will likely include a hard cap.  With a cap of 60 million how on earth does a 15 or 20 million dollar player with several years remaining become a tradeable asset?

    The only players that are tradeable assets are the ones that are overpaid and going into the final year of their contract and if you could stop and think about it logically, the teams willing to take a large expiring contract are the ones that are looking to dump salaries, i.e. players that are not living up to their contracts - so you give up a large expiring contract and get back a bunch of overpaid scrubs that will ensure that you remain wallowing in the land of mediocrity........
     
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    Sorry but your the fool if you think AB/Odom for Howard is a push. So foolish that you shouldnt waste anyones time w/ another thread. AB blows a knee every time he gets off the couch. Thats about as dumb as " we lost bc we dont have Perk " , besides the Lakers need a PG more than another big right now. Kobe and the Lakers cant play shut down D anymore , they cant keep anyone in front of them. I mean Paul was blowing by Kobe on one leg.
     
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    Boston proposal:

    west/bb/ draft picks for.....dum dum dum dum dum

    Howard and Nelson!

    Yes folks that what some boston fans are proposing,HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    Only in boston!
     
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    In Response to Re: The undisputed FACTS about the Howard situation : keep bringing your insecure ignorance the proposals on this thread gave the Magic 70 million in savings and 4 young assets/draft picks. La can save them 10-15 million and give them 2 bad picks and Odom/Bynum who keeps them a 2nd rd team. Yawn for Magic fans... better to clear it all away, horder picks and cap space, get top 5 lotte picks '12-'15 and compete down the road.
    Posted by rameakap


    4 young "assets" and draft picks for DH and Nelson!! As I said folks, only in Boston!!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
     
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    The Lakers just need to tweek their roster. They desperately need a point guard and a reliable small foward. Fisher is too old, too slow and Artest showed that his interests are outside of basketball & is easily distracted.

    Although difficult, this is doable for L.A. And although Phil Jackson was the greatest coach in the MODERN NBA, he was tired of the grind and had gotten too lazy in recent years. Father time catches up with coaches as well.

    The Lakers will find a quality coach and will be aggressively pursuing the players they need.

    The reason players want to come to L.A. is the hype--weather, media market & Laker history. It's difficult to compete with that. If Chris Paul considers a trade and its L.A., he'll juimp at the opportunity because he knows what the Lakers need and he believes that he can deliver it whereas New York is lacking a quality center.

    Of the 2 players, Paul would be more open to a trade or to move on. Based on all that Howard has said and based on his behavior, Dwight sounds like he loves Orlando and would not be so willing to bolt.
     
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    In Response to Re: The undisputed FACTS about the Howard situation : 20 yr old avery Bradley and THREE draft picks, one in the teens from the Clips are what you call assets you only have two such assets to offer... 2 1st rd picks... one of which would be WAY worse Bynum is a great young center, even though he is a punk... but I'd rather save 50 million and start over than have Bynum/Odom and stay the same 2nd rd team hahahaha your ignorance is as always astounding, as always you are shown the fool
    Posted by rameakap


    This is it folks...the dumbest post of the year!!

    Wannabe's and drafts for DH!!!! Wow, bet ya Orlando can't wait to jump onto that ship lmao.

    Oh, remind me when anyone connected with DH ever said he wanted to join boston? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    As always, you FAIL!
     
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    Blindness and ignorance, pity is all I have for you When a team rebuilds, saving an additonal 50-60 million and adding BETTER draft picks tends to be wiser than making lateral moves for expensive vets like Bynum/Odom and NOT competing for a title but staying a middle of the run playoff team. Who knows where DH wants to be or where he eventually goes for sure What I have done is make a 100% factual argument that the Celtics can help the Orlando Magic's ownership and rebuilding future more than the Lakers will and that takes itnelligence and insight Laker-Nation is a CHILD who CANNOT grasp the significance of this in depth discussion Laker-Nation YOU FAIL HAHA, as always
    Posted by rameakap


    Speculation is not "factual", it is speculation........  boil it down to its most basic fundamental assumption - Howard will make the max money no matter where he goes and he wants to start winning titles.........  in Boston, he gets the max money but in Boston he has absolutely no chance to win....... just stop the nonsense.
     
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