I don't think one translates to the other.  I could never say that.  We sound like lakers fans, guys who STILL think they would have won in '08 if Bynum played.  An impossibility, as we all know, for they would not have Gasol!! No, the only thing I will say is that IF Game 7 was played in Boston, we probably would have won.  That is why we need to get HCA this year.  And that is why the NBA need to re-think the 2-3-2 format in the Finals!
Posted by hedleylamarr

Hahaha, this is hilarious.  I remember when LA beat Boston during the 2008-2009 season, at home and on the road, and Lakers fans were saying the same thing.  Celtics won in 08, Lakers won in 2010, that's all that matters now.  That, the observation that the Celtics look like they're playing MUCH better ball than LA right now.
Posted by jofc

In Response to This is exactly what would have happened in Game 7 with Perk & KG Healthy : There would have been no game 6 or 7 had Bynum had been healthy.  In game 1 he had 21 points, 14 rebounds, and 7 blocks......... there was no game 6 or 7 with a healthy Bynum.  Sorry to make a poopoo in your pants. Bynum and Gasol did whatever they wanted to today against Perk and Shaq, the only reason the Cs won the game was the defense of BBD.  As odd as it may sound but without his defense the Cs would be going to see Sacramento who just beat the Lakers and Dallas. Rondo did his usual disapearing act - he missed wide open jumpers and did not get to the line but he was able to get the ball to hall of famers against players who had decided that nobody but Kobe was going to beat them. As I have said any number of times, the Cs are the best and deepest team in the league and the Spurs will be watching after the second round because they are a jump shooting team. The Lakers have a more talented front court but do not seem interested in a 3-peat. Therefore, the Cs will win the title in June 2011. One of the most amazing things to me is that if the Cs win a game it is because of talent and depth and when they lose it is the refs. The Cs clearly dominated the game in the second half but it is really hard to imagine for one second that there are any number of other point guards that would not have made the game over in the first half as opposed to the second half. Don't think Rondo took a foul shot.... Derick Rose and any number of other of actual good point guards would have taken lots of freebies in the first half and the game would have been over much earlier. What I heard after the game was that Perkins provided great defense during his time on the floor - what I saw was that Gasol and Bynum did whatever they wanted against both Perk and Shaq and that only Davis' defense and offense is what made their front court the star of the game. The Lakers seem completely disinterested but I am absolutely of the opinion that D Fish is a real weakness and that they are not very deep. I also am on record saying that the Spurs are pretenders because they are a jump shooting team, I thought the Jazz may be a darkhorse but now seeing how Big Al's defense remains ole and he has not improved one iota, the Jazz are not even pretenders let alone contenders. With Butler the Mavs would have been contenders but are no longer even pretenders. That leaves the Spurs and Lakers.  The size of the Lakers when they finally get into the playoffs and assuming they are healhty will be the team to beat. That leaves the Cs and Lakers size as the deciding factors for either the 18th or 17the rings.....  I suggest that the health of either will be the deciding factor and for most of the last 20 years the point guard will be almost a non factor....  Today Rondo...... clang... clang.... clang... clang... clang...... never gets to the line, passes up wide open jumpers and having national guys discuss how Rondo is never covered.... Last 4 losses..... Rose, Brooks, Wall, Nash.......  all had more points and I believe all had more assists.... so when there are bad match ups and other coaches and teams decide to take certain players out of the game... Rondo shows his true colors........ against the 36 year old - 7 points, 6 assists, 7 turnovers, etc....... Is there a point at which there is a point guard who some would like to consider an elite player and elite point guard actually takes over a game?  dominated by Rose, embarrassed by Brooks, Wall makes the game winning shot - Rondo is hoping that someone will score so he can just hide in the corner, and Rondo was a complete non-factor against someone who has nowhere near the talent he is teamed with but is completely outplayed by Nash..... After Rondo is destroyed by both Evans and Udrih but his teammates bail him out can we at least attempt a discussion about Rondo's level of being overrated?
Posted by TheDUDDER

You homers always try to blame last years loss on Perk getting hurt.  Always seem to forget Bynum was dragging 1 leg around for the entire series.  A healthy Bynum will destroy KP.  Lakers should have won in 6.
Posted by Logicalmind

In Response to Re: This is exactly what would have happened in Game 7 with Perk & KG Healthy : [QUOTE]Wouldnt have mattered if Perk played game 7. First off, he wasnt doing all that much to begin with. The Laker bigs were owning ours with the exception of Sheed here and there... and Baby. Secondly, Perk would never offset what the ref's were doing. It didnt matter if Larry & MJ played for us in game 7, that 4th qtr was gonna go the Lakers way no matter what. Im gonna agree with Che here that Shaq should start. Perk should play when Shaq gets tired or in foul trouble. Posted by Karllost[/QUOTE Wow! Now we're blaming the officials?  The Lakers should have won that series in 6 games but the officials carried the Celts to get them to game 7.  A healthy Bynum would have ended it even faster. 
Posted by Logicalmind

The Celtics would not have given up the lead or the offensive rebounds that led to the loss in game 7 last year! Any thoughts?
Posted by Ortiz123

How many other places do you post your negativity.
Posted by gtown07

In Response to This is exactly what would have happened in Game 7 with Perk & KG Healthy : After coming off 21 points, 14 rebounds, and 7 blocks in game 1 and playing at about 20% of capacity thereafter, here is what would have happened in games 6 and 7 if Bynum were anywhere near full strength....... crickets..... no game 6, no game 7.....
Posted by TheDUDDER

Hey man I wasn't sure if you knew how long and repetitive your posts are.  Reading this is better than a xanax.  There would have been no game 6 or 7 had Bynum had been healthy.  In game 1 he had 21 points, 14 rebounds, and 7 blocks......... there was no game 6 or 7 with a healthy Bynum.  Sorry to make a poopoo in your pants. Bynum and Gasol did whatever they wanted to today against Perk and Shaq, the only reason the Cs won the game was the defense of BBD.  As odd as it may sound but without his defense the Cs would be going to see Sacramento who just beat the Lakers and Dallas. Rondo did his usual disapearing act - he missed wide open jumpers and did not get to the line but he was able to get the ball to hall of famers against players who had decided that nobody but Kobe was going to beat them. As I have said any number of times, the Cs are the best and deepest team in the league and the Spurs will be watching after the second round because they are a jump shooting team. The Lakers have a more talented front court but do not seem interested in a 3-peat. Therefore, the Cs will win the title in June 2011. One of the most amazing things to me is that if the Cs win a game it is because of talent and depth and when they lose it is the refs. The Cs clearly dominated the game in the second half but it is really hard to imagine for one second that there are any number of other point guards that would not have made the game over in the first half as opposed to the second half. Don't think Rondo took a foul shot.... Derick Rose and any number of other of actual good point guards would have taken lots of freebies in the first half and the game would have been over much earlier. What I heard after the game was that Perkins provided great defense during his time on the floor - what I saw was that Gasol and Bynum did whatever they wanted against both Perk and Shaq and that only Davis' defense and offense is what made their front court the star of the game. The Lakers seem completely disinterested but I am absolutely of the opinion that D Fish is a real weakness and that they are not very deep. I also am on record saying that the Spurs are pretenders because they are a jump shooting team, I thought the Jazz may be a darkhorse but now seeing how Big Al's defense remains ole and he has not improved one iota, the Jazz are not even pretenders let alone contenders. With Butler the Mavs would have been contenders but are no longer even pretenders. That leaves the Spurs and Lakers.  The size of the Lakers when they finally get into the playoffs and assuming they are healhty will be the team to beat. That leaves the Cs and Lakers size as the deciding factors for either the 18th or 17the rings.....  I suggest that the health of either will be the deciding factor and for most of the last 20 years the point guard will be almost a non factor....  Today Rondo...... clang... clang.... clang... clang... clang...... never gets to the line, passes up wide open jumpers and having national guys discuss how Rondo is never covered.... Last 4 losses..... Rose, Brooks, Wall, Nash.......  all had more points and I believe all had more assists.... so when there are bad match ups and other coaches and teams decide to take certain players out of the game... Rondo shows his true colors........ against the 36 year old - 7 points, 6 assists, 7 turnovers, etc....... Is there a point at which there is a point guard who some would like to consider an elite player and elite point guard actually takes over a game?  dominated by Rose, embarrassed by Brooks, Wall makes the game winning shot - Rondo is hoping that someone will score so he can just hide in the corner, and Rondo was a complete non-factor against someone who has nowhere near the talent he is teamed with but is completely outplayed by Nash..... After Rondo is destroyed by both Evans and Udrih but his teammates bail him out can we at least attempt a discussion about Rondo's level of being overrated?
Posted by Icon11

a healthy bynum is like a healthy yao ming. they both don't exist. I don't think bynum has ever finished a season injury-free. If you're relying on him to be your saviour, best of luck to you oh and btw, get your facts straight. bynum's massive game was game 2, WHICH THE LAKERS LOST
Posted by teh-n00b

The Celtics would have won Game 7 if it was in Boston.
Posted by Mike1986

In Response to Re: This is exactly what would have happened in Game 7 with Perk & KG Healthy : That must explain the 21 points, 14 boards, and 7 blocks in game 1 on one knee and OBTW the reason the Cs discussed obtaining size over and over and over again. Yao Ming - when healthy, simply the best center in the league bar none not even a close second.  Yeah so I guess Yao Ming is useless.  Can shoot from all over the floor, alters every shot in the paint, hits all his free throws, and so on.  Nobody, I repeat nobody else in the league was even close to Yao when he was healthy. But of course everyone is entitled to their opinion. Of course the popular opinion is that the thug enforcer permanent scowl league leader in technicals whose actual game could not be any more different than his actual game is the difference maker in game 7. That is like one of the post the other day saying that imagine how good they would have been this year after having going the whole season without their starting 5 - as if starting Shaq has cost them anything at all and how they have given something up by not having Perk as the starter - I cannot laugh any harder than I am right now. In the first half Bynum and Gasol did whatever they wanted to against Shaq and Perk yesterday - oddly it was not until Big Baby became the defensive stalwart of the second half did the Cs have a chance. The issue is simple - it goes something like this, if the Cs lose it is the refs or an off day, if they win it is because of who they are.  So Bynum plays really hurt and completely dominates game 1 and there are those that think there was nobody other than Gasol who was the MVP in the finals but somehow if a journeyman center was there for game 7 the Cs would have raised #18.  The absent of other players on other teams does not matter - it is only important when the home team is missing someone. They could all be rapists, murderers, and pedophiles but if they are healthy, the team wins but when healthy, there is not an objective basketball fan on the planet who not trade Perk for Bynum.
Posted by TheDUDDER

In Response to This is exactly what would have happened in Game 7 with Perk & KG Healthy : After coming off 21 points, 14 rebounds, and 7 blocks in game 1 and playing at about 20% of capacity thereafter, here is what would have happened in games 6 and 7 if Bynum were anywhere near full strength....... crickets..... no game 6, no game 7.....
Posted by TheDUDDER

In Response to Re: This is exactly what would have happened in Game 7 with Perk & KG Healthy : The C's would have won game seven if the refs were competent.
Posted by greenkillme