This May be How the C's get Dalembert!

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    This May be How the C's get Dalembert!

    Three team deal? OR a deal with Orlando after Redick trade is complete (if Dalembert is part of trade)! 

    Marc Stein: Dime addendum: Milwaukee now in mix for Magic's JJ Redick. Bucks, I'm told, assessing their ability to retain sharpshooter long term Twitter @ESPNSteinLine

    Rumors tagsMILWAUKEE BUCKSORLANDO MAGICTRADEJJ REDICK  

    Marc Stein: To meet asking price for Redick -- expiring(s) and a future first-round pick -- Bucks naturally wanna know they can retain free agent-to-beTwitter @ESPNSteinLine

    Rumors tagsMILWAUKEE BUCKSORLANDO MAGICTRADEJJ REDICK   

    Marc Stein: Redick did tell @RealGM this week that ORL has "become a home" & that he'd like to stay if Magic end up passing on all these calls coming in Twitter @ESPNSteinLine

    Rumors tagsMILWAUKEE BUCKSORLANDO MAGICTRADEJJ REDICK 
     
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    Re: This May be How the C's get Dalembert!

    ummm... how?

    Expirings and a 1st rd pick are what they want? So we give the pick and get Dalembert is obv the angle you are going... but we don't have 5-6 million in exp. contracts

     
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    ummm... how?

    Expirings and a 1st rd pick are what they want? So we give the pick and get Dalembert is obv the angle you are going... but we don't have 5-6 million in exp. contracts

     



    I don't know how they do it but Dalembert has to be the number one priority.  I know some would scream but Melo as you said yesterday looks to me like a 60% chance to be a disappointment not 40.   Mutombo is not what would lead the Celtics in the next era and the odds of him being that good are very slim.  He looked awful in the game the other night and they probably decided he will lose value if they play him up here.

     

     
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    Rame - to ORL  Udrih and Dunleavy and a 1st rounder

    to MIL - Redick, Bass and Ayon

    to Bos - Dalembert

     
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    ummm... how?

    Expirings and a 1st rd pick are what they want? So we give the pick and get Dalembert is obv the angle you are going... but we don't have 5-6 million in exp. contracts

     



    The point I was attempting to make (I admit not very well), is the Bucks are not likely to trade Dalembert to another EC team (playoff bound) while they are still in the hunt. BUT if Dalembert is packaged in a deal for JJ, the Magic would likely be more inclined to deal or waive the big man.

     

    If a deal with the Magic is required, I am guessing DA might offer Collins (1.3-mil), CW (1.3-mil), LB (1.2), and I am not certain if the Cs are allowed under the new CBA to do anything with the contracts of Dooling and or Milicic?

    If not, best case scenario for the Cs, would be for Dalembert to get waived.

     

     

     
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    Well the point of the Magic waiving Dalembert and us sitting there with the bi-annual is a good one, we could offer him almost twice what other contenders could.

    But if you just made 7 million, and have made $75,825,983 in your NBA career, there is a good chance you choose Miami, who also needs a big, over the Celtics, when its the difference of 600k.

    Hedley there is little chance the Bucks want Bass

     
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    Rame - to ORL  Udrih and Dunleavy and a 1st rounder

    to MIL - Redick, Bass and Ayon

    to Bos - Dalembert




    Thats a good deal for us...

     
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    Rame - to ORL  Udrih and Dunleavy and a 1st rounder

    to MIL - Redick, Bass and Ayon

    to Bos - Dalembert

     




    Thats a good deal for us...

     


    It is a bad deal for the Bucks

    They are paying Ilyasova and Gooden 27m to man the PF spot over the next 2 years

    Why on earth would they want to pay Bass 13-14 million to be a 3rd stringer. To keep their 1st rd pick? I doubt it, but maybe. 

    Its the same foolish situation as the posters who claimed the Magic would take Bass b/c Baby was hurt. Really? And pay Bass that 13-14 million when you have Baby, Al Harrington and Nicholson who are all better than Bass being paid 30-31 million the next 2 years?

     

     
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    The best bet would be to hope that Dalembert is involved in a trade as an exp contract to a non-contender and out ability to offer 600k more with the bi-annual over another contender having just the vet min puts him in Green.

     
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    The best bet would be to hope that Dalembert is involved in a trade as an exp contract to a non-contender and out ability to offer 600k more with the bi-annual over another contender having just the vet min puts him in Green.

     



    So now it's bi-annual. What happened to the MLE?

     



    Fierce - I am glad you joined the discussion. I can not find any information on what options the C's have (if any) with Doolings and Milicic contracts. Do you know? 

     
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    The best bet would be to hope that Dalembert is involved in a trade as an exp contract to a non-contender and out ability to offer 600k more with the bi-annual over another contender having just the vet min puts him in Green.

     



    So now it's bi-annual. What happened to the MLE?

     

     



    Fierce - I am glad you joined the discussion. I can not find any information on what options the C's have (if any) with Doolings and Milicic contracts. Do you know? 

     

     



    They've been waived so even if their salaries are still in the books, the Celts can't use those salaries in a trade.

     

    Right now all the Celts have, available for a trade, are the 13 players on the roster.

    Also, the Celts still haven't used their bi-annual of 1.9m per year, for 2 years, so the Celts can still use that to sign a FA.



    Shoot! I was hoping you we're not going to say that! 

    Thanks for the information!

     
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    Sam Dalembert!! yeah!!! can you say Championship!!! ... yawn

     



    Under dogs can and do win sometimes:

     

     

       

    No dog in these 'dogs
    By Jeff Merron

     

    1. New York Mets (1969 World Series champs)
    Back in the days before you could buy an expansion team and then immediately stock it with blue chippers, the Mets did the impossible. Through their first seven seasons, the lovables never finished higher than ninth place, and before the start of the 1969 season, oddsmakers put them at 100-1 to win the World Series. Before they beat the Braves and heavily favored Orioles to win it all, Dick Young of the New York Post wrote that The Miracle was a done deal. "In the most momentous accident since Columbus set out for India, the Amazin' Mets last night clinched the National League East. The rest will be easy." Few others made that postseason prediction, even though the Mets had won 100 regular-season games.

    2. U.S. Olympic Hockey Team (1980 Olympic Gold)
    The Americans, seeded seventh in the 12-team field at Lake Placid, had plenty of experience as a team -- they'd played 63 exhibition games before the 1980 Olympics. Still, this was nothing compared to the heavily favored Soviets, who played together every day for years and were perhaps the best team in the world -- including the NHL.

    Said head coach Herb Brooks just before the Games began, "The Russians have to be the odds-on favorites for the gold, and you have to look for the Swedes and the Czechs for the silver and bronze. There are also four other quality hockey teams -- Canada, the U.S., Finland and West Germany -- who could all be considered underdogs. I believe we are a legitimate contender, but we definitely are underdogs."

    The Americans began round-robin play by tying Sweden and beating Czechoslovakia, the two top teams in their division. Coming up against the USSR in the medal round, the U.S. was a huge underdog, having lost 10-3 to the same team in an exhibition just before the Games. Then came the "Miracle on Ice" -- a 4-3 win that was such a terrific upset that some still believe it resulted in a U.S. gold. It didn't. The Americans still had to play Finland, and if they lost, the Soviets would take the gold. But the U.S. beat Finland 4-2 and won it all.

    3. Buster Douglas (WBC and WBA championships, Feb. 10, 1990)
    Three headlines:

    1) "Tyson Looms as Heavy Favorite"

    2) "Tyson Says There's No Way He Can Lose Title to Douglas"

    3) "Tyson Loses World Title in a Stunning Upset"

    4. N.C. State Wolfpack (1983 NCAA Basketball Champs)
    The Pack lost 10 regular-season games, got to the tourney after winning the ACC Championship, then barely got past both Pepperdine and Virginia to make it to the Final Four. Thanks to Georgia's dismal shooting, N.C. State won in the semis, 67-60, and then faced Houston. The Cougars had won 26 straight games, and awed viewers by scoring 58 second-half points to trounce Louisville in their semifinal matchup.

    "We'll try to handle their team by playing, shall I say, a slower tempo," said Wolfpack coach Jim Valvano before the game. "If we get the opening tip, we may not take a shot until Tuesday morning."

    N.C. State did control the tempo, leading 33-25 at halftime and winning on Lorenzo Charles unbelievable last-second dunk. Final score: 54-52. And, somehow, in just as great an upset, the Wolfpack outdunked Phi Slama Jama.

    5. 1968 New York Jets (Super Bowl III champs)
    The Jets had lost three regular-season games. The Colts had lost only one. The Jets played in the weaker "upstart" AFL. The Colts played in the obviously superior NFL. You could take the Jets to win, and the guy on the other side of your bet would also hand over between 18 and 23 points.

    But Joe Namath wasn't betting. He was guaranteeing. (What his "guarantee" meant is still a puzzler, although we suspect it was just a studly way of saying, "I'm confident.")

    Meanwhile, Baltimore was taking a low-key, relaxed approach to preparing for the game, perhaps creating the (wrong) impression that they "thought they were a bunch of volunteer firemen at a beach convention," wrote John Steadman in "The Baltimore Colts."

    You know the rest. 16-7, Jets.

    6. 2001 New England Patriots (Super Bowl XXXVI)
    The Pats, 5-11 in 2000, began the 2001 season 50-1 longshots to win it all. Kurt Warner's Rams, on the other hand, seemed on their way to building a great football dynasty, dominating opponents with an explosive offense on their way to a 14-2 record. The Pats' regular-season mark was a just-good-enough 11-5.

    Long story short: The Pats, led by QB Tom Brady, arrived in New Orleans 14-point underdogs, and came away 20-17 winners on Adam Vinatieri's 48-yard figgie on the last play of the game. It was one of the most exciting Super Bowls ever, and the greatest upset since the Jets won Super Bowl III.

    7. Jack Fleck (1955 U.S. Open Golf)
    Ben Hogan was already in the locker room at the Olympic Club in San Francisco, sipping scotch and water and savoring what he was sure was his fifth U.S. Open win. As he answered questions from reporters and accepted congratulations from fellow golfers, Jack Fleck, an unknown, birdied 18 with a tough 7-foot putt, to tie. The next day, in an 18-hole playoff, Fleck outshot Hogan by three strokes to take the title.

    8. New Jersey Devils (1995 Stanley Cup)
    The talented Red Wings had the best regular-season record in the strike-shortened 1994-95 season -- 33-11-4. They eased through the first three rounds of the playoffs with a 12-2 mark. On the other hand, the Devils were only 22-18-8 in the regular season.

    But New Jersey had a remarkable postseason run, beating three teams that had the home-ice advantage -- the Bruins, Penguins and Flyers. In the process, the Devils won 10 road games.

    Still, Detroit was the heavy favorite in the Stanley Cup Finals, overmatching the Devils on an individual level. But the Devils meshed as a team, and had a punishing defense. After they won Game 1 in Detroit, New Jersey's Stephane Richer said, "Before the series, people thought we were going to get beat in four games, (that) this is an easy series for Detroit. If people think like that, we think it's fine. It's been like this before every series, and we've won them all. Hopefully, people will start believing we have a good hockey team."

    A few days later, after the Devils swept the Red Wings, there were plenty of believers.

    9. Charismatic (1999 Kentucky Derby)
    In 1999's Run for the Roses, Charismatic, trained by D. Wayne Lukas, didn't seem to have much of a chance. His pop, Summer Squall, was the runnerup in the 1992 Kentucky Derby, but despite his excellent lineage, Charismatic went off at 30-1 odds. He started from the 16 post, putting him at a disadvantage straight away. And his jockey, Chris Antley, had almost retired the year before, when he struggled with weight problems.

    Charismatic, who three months earlier could have been bought at a claiming race for $62,500, won in 2:03 1/5, easily beating the favorites, Excellent Meeting and General Challenge. If you had put down $2 on the horse, you would have gone home with $64.60, the third-largest payout in Derby history.

    10. Houston Rockets (1995 NBA champs)
    Strange to think of the defending champs as great underdogs, but the fact is, nobody expected Houston to repeat in 1995. The Rockets went only 47-35 during the regular season and were the sixth seed in the Western Conference. But they beat Utah (60-22), Phoenix (59-23) and San Antonio (62-20) in successive series to make it to the finals against Orlando. Then Hakeem Olajuwon & Co. got out the brooms and swept Shaq's Magic.

    "I defy anyone to say we backed into this one," said Rockets exec. Bob Weinhauer. "Last year, they said Michael wasn't in the playoffs, and Seattle got beat in the first round and all that kind of garbage. This year, we only had to beat the four best teams in the NBA -- and we had to beat them all on their court."

     
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    Sam Dalembert!! yeah!!! can you say Championship!!! ... yawn




    Sounds better that Dwight Howard+Steve Nash!! Yeah!! Can you say 72 wins and a Championship!

     
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    Dalembert stats tonight: 14-pts, 12-rebs, and 5-blks! Nice!! 

     
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    Dalembert stats tonight: 14-pts, 12-rebs, and 5-blks! Nice!! 

     



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    We know why she got the DNP! You can't play pregnant! LOL! 

     
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