Three team trade that reunites best friends?

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    Re: Three team trade that reunites best friends?

    houston- between smith, rondo and howard- "300% free throws" they'd be lucky to get 140% combined.  that would be a terribly vulnerable lineup in any important game

     
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    Very true that FT% will be a liability. The 140% number is definitely WAY off though.


     


    They should hope to get the 62.5% Howard shot in this years playoffs (looked ok to me in many 4th quarters), the 71-72% Smith shot in 3 full seasons of his career and Rondo improving his career 62% to say 65-70% as we did see shooting improvement this year. 


     


    High end projects puts them at 195% out of 300%. Conservative projections put them at 180%. How you turned three guys with career averages of 184% into 140% is fuzzy math to me.


     


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    howard career: 58% with no sign of any improvement coming


    j-smooves- last two years: 52%- it's not going to get any better in time


    rondo is anyone's guess.  his solution to free throws in recent years has been to do everything he can to stop taking them.  once he gets his new contract, i'd look for him to sink soundly into the 50's again.  let's call him 60% for right now.....


    for a grand total of 170/300- a brickmaster squad from he ll.  come crunch time your 2 and 3 are the only ball handlers.  nobody would ever ever ever ever field that lineup with a straight look on their face and allege to be "contending", just like nobody can convince j-smooves that he stinks at shooting 3's and to stop- career .279 but still looking to bomb 2 or 3 a game


     

     
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    Re: Three team trade that reunites best friends?

    Parsons, Aisk, Sullinger, KO, Our #5 and their #8 , that would be great. With the draft picks we could wait a year or two and challenge for a title.

     
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    Re: Three team trade that reunites best friends?

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    Very true that FT% will be a liability. The 140% number is definitely WAY off though.


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


    They should hope to get the 62.5% Howard shot in this years playoffs (looked ok to me in many 4th quarters), the 71-72% Smith shot in 3 full seasons of his career and Rondo improving his career 62% to say 65-70% as we did see shooting improvement this year. 


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


    High end projects puts them at 195% out of 300%. Conservative projections put them at 180%. How you turned three guys with career averages of 184% into 140% is fuzzy math to me.


     


     


     


     


     


     


     



     


     


     



    howard career: 58% with no sign of any improvement coming


     


     


     


    j-smooves- last two years: 52%- it's not going to get any better in time


     


     


     


    rondo is anyone's guess.  his solution to free throws in recent years has been to do everything he can to stop taking them.  once he gets his new contract, i'd look for him to sink soundly into the 50's again.  let's call him 60% for right now.....


     


     


     


    for a grand total of 170/300- a brickmaster squad from he ll.  come crunch time your 2 and 3 are the only ball handlers.  nobody would ever ever ever ever field that lineup with a straight look on their face and allege to be "contending", just like nobody can convince j-smooves that he stinks at shooting 3's and to stop- career .279 but still looking to bomb 2 or 3 a game


     


     


     


     


     





    So I went with CAREER averages which overshot the the last 3 year %'s by 14%. You apparently went by the 3 year averages but were unable to do the math in your first attempt and undershot by 30%?


     


    If they shoot 170% out of 300% your team is still going to end up averaging more points per possession fouling one of those 3 players than the top four offenses average per possession over an entire game.


     


    Stats don't lie.


     


     





the "140" was a little bit sarcastic.


i went by career stats for howard because he has consistently stunk.  a little lower than career avg for rondo- when he exhales after getting an extension the FT will likely go down.  for j-not-smoothve his descent into 50% free throw shooting the last two years is shocking.  antoine walker did the same at the end of his career.  big men who suddenly drop that much rarely ever recover a shooting touch from the line at smith's age which is right around 30.  lambar odumb had an identical horrific drop in FT% around 30 and his touch never came back.


so you could say my 170 was based in, how do they say it, reality.  and the 140 was a snarky quip about how pathetic this squad would be.  it would be a terrible team to watch and any close game you have "hack-a-three-out-of-five" of the starting five that could and would be used and you'd lose a lot of games

 
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    Re: Three team trade that reunites best friends?

    Guys keep throwing around Jeremy Lin's name in trades. I've been saying from the start and I'm still saying...not going to happen.  When Yao Ming was there they built a network in China.  Jeremy Lin keeps that network alive.  Why do you think they paid such a ridiculous price for him?

     
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    The problem with dealing with Houston is they don't have much in the way of trade value. Asik is an ok player that is grossly overpaid, his slow footedness was exposed in the series vs Por. Lin would be better suited to a west coast team than us. Unless they can help us facilitate a 3/4 team trade, I don't see them coming up with a palatable trade that would urge DA to pull the trigger. I do think everyone on this team could be traded if the right players were offered but I don't think DA will make a trade unless he feels we are getting a good deal, not trading players at less than full value.

     
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    Re: Three team trade that reunites best friends?

    If nothing else the "Rondo to Houston" proposal is a great way to spend time before the draft. Now is the time for the many creative and knowledgeable  minds here to propose workable trades for us to consider. The long wait prior to renewed hope is nearly over.


    Rondo? I think the one guy they try to hold fast to until a great offer comes along is Rondo, whether or not they decide to re-sign him. He's not going to Houston without Parsons coming here. He's the guy that makes the deal work from a Celtics perspective and lets them want to throw in a "decent" #1 pick in exchange. Asik? A side issue at best at this point. In other words, even though I'd love to see the mercurial one gone and have us draft a new, young, non-head case PG to replace Rondo, he's too much a valuable asset at this point to part with without something valuable in return and Asik alone is not nearly enough. I just don't think this works without someone getting gored in this deal.

     
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    BTW let's be clear and real about one thing. Faverani is not worth anything to anyone in the NBA unless he's a throw in for salary match-up purposes. I don't buy that his knee was the thing preventing him from playing well last season - that's BS. The guy looked lost, had occasional moments of talent, but he needs mucho seasoning before he's ready to contribute on a regular basis for an NBA team in any fashion. Babb looked better in his short time here than did Faux Hawk, and certainly Johnson did.


     


    Faux Hawk has to learn how to fly in the NBA or he's going to break his neck when he falls out of the nest next time.

     
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    yeah, and we paid like 3mil per year for him, right?  wow, what a mistake!

     
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    Re: Three team trade that reunites best friends?

    Everything I've read is that most teams want Parsons but Hou doesn't want to give him up. If Hou really wants Rondo they might have give up Parsons to offset the ridiculous balloon payments on either Asik or Lin or Hou would have to take on Wallaces contract and we'd take Asik & Lin for Rondo and Wallace and even then there would have to be a lopsided trade. I worked out a trade on ESPN trade machine that was OKed but I don't know if it would happen. Rondo,Wallace and Anthony going there and Asik,Lin,Parsons,Montejunas and Terrence Jones coming here. I think that kind of exchange would be necessary for DA to deal Rondo. I don't know if Rondo will or will not be traded but if he is DA won't give him away. One thing in our favor is that a couple of teams that thought would be going deeper into the playoffs or just missed the playoffs might covet Rondo more than fans think.  

     
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    Re: Three team trade that reunites best friends?

    Parsons is going to be very good.

     
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