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    Re: Time for Jeff Green to Start

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    I called for this move 3 weeks ago. I have no idea what Doc is doing. I guess we have to remember that last year we were 17-17 at one point so maybe he's not panicking but boy he really needs to explore giving Green major minutes...even if he plays it off by giving PP a few games off



    I watched Green blow by Clipper defenders  three times last night.  He might the be the quickest 6-9 guy in the NBA. He need to play a lot more minutes.




    For that reason he can cover the 2 and should start with Pierce at the 3.



    Fine I just want him in the line up.

     
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    Re: Time for Jeff Green to Start

    i just look at collins..and i feel sick...

     
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    Re: Time for Jeff Green to Start

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    I watched Green blow by Clipper defenders  three times last night.  He might the be the quickest 6-9 guy in the NBA. He need to play a lot more minutes.



    Did he finish?  Jeff needs to be able to shoot over smaller defenders to be dominant.  I have not seen him do that.  He needs to discover that if he is going to start at 2.

     
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    Re: Time for Jeff Green to Start

    Time for Jeff Green to go, Kirk!

    Enough is enough!

    Jeff Green is not a good fit for the Celts.

     
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    Re: Time for Jeff Green to Start

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    Time for Jeff Green to go, Kirk!

    Enough is enough!

    Jeff Green is not a good fit for the Celts.



    I disagree. He was out for a year with heart surgery. Give him time.

    If Pierce and Terry hit their shots, we would not be having this discussion.



    No, Kirk, his time is up!

    I didn't say he's not a good player, I said he's not a good fit for the Celts. Just like Lee is a good player but he's not a good fit either. Both are good players incapable of playing the Celtics way.

     
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    Re: Time for Jeff Green to Start

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    Green had 9 rebounds and was a +5.

    Terry and Pierce were 10 for 39.

    Green needs to start for Terry.



    Even if Green starts over Terry, when you look at the big picture, like Game 7 of the ECF, Jeff Green is not the kind of guy you would want on the court because he's just not a competitor.

    You didn't see how he couldn't take advantage of Steph Curry in the paint?

    Maybe Jeff Green will be better if he's a starter, but he's still not what you would call a big time player.

     
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    Re: Time for Jeff Green to Start

    Kirk

    Just look at Sully, even if he's not given enough attempts and playing time, he still makes the most out of it. That's a competitor!

     
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    Re: Time for Jeff Green to Start

    Jeff Green is just too nice, no nasty in him.

     
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    Re: Time for Jeff Green to Start

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    I respect your opinion, but I think we have to go with our younger players.

    I am afraid we are going to pull a Pitino and trade young talent too soon.



    I'm saying trade our young talent.

    Bass and Lee are expendable.

    Jeff Green needs to be included in the deal so that the Celtics can an All-Star caliber player like Amare.

    Beggars can't be choosers. The only real big man with star power available in the market today is Amare. 

    All the pros outweigh the cons of Amare if it means giving up Bass, Lee, and Green.

     
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    Re: Time for Jeff Green to Start

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    Time for Jeff Green to go, Kirk!

    Enough is enough!

    Jeff Green is not a good fit for the Celts.



    I disagree. He was out for a year with heart surgery. Give him time.

    If Pierce and Terry hit their shots, we would not be having this discussion.



    No, Kirk, his time is up!

    I didn't say he's not a good player, I said he's not a good fit for the Celts. Just like Lee is a good player but he's not a good fit either. Both are good players incapable of playing the Celtics way.



    Green had 9 rebounds and was a +5.

    Terry and Pierce were 10 for 39.

    Green needs to start for Terry.



    Start Jeff at 2?  Did you see Golden State playing a zone when Boston went big?  How will playing Jeff Green at 2 break that down?  He was not able to shoot over the top.  He can't break them down with dribble penetration.  He was not able to finish his post ups.  The Celtics are discombobulated because Jeff Green and Bass don't make good quick reads.

    I am OK with trading Green and Bass.  But then we have to keep Lee to backup 2/3.

    The Celts have to make some decisions.  They don't have enough scoring/shooting on the team.  They don't put spacing pressure on the defense.  They have some brilliant pieces.  But the full cast is very mismatched.

     
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    Re: Time for Jeff Green to Start

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    Start Jeff at 2?  Did you see Golden State playing a zone when Boston went big?  How will playing Jeff Green at 2 break that down?  He was not able to shoot over the top.  He can't break them down with dribble penetration.  He was not able to finish his post ups.  The Celtics are discombobulated because Jeff Green and Bass don't make good quick reads.

    I am OK with trading Green and Bass.  But then we have to keep Lee to backup 2/3.

    The Celts have to make some decisions.  They don't have enough scoring/shooting on the team.  They don't put spacing pressure on the defense.  They have some brilliant pieces.  But the full cast is very mismatched.



    Don't worry about the 2/3. The Celts still have the BAE of 1.9m per year. They can use that to get a backup for Pierce.

     
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    Re: Time for Jeff Green to Start

    Yeah ppl are all over Green.. The guy needs some playing time and confidence. 

    He was playing with a heavy heart tonight too.. One of his best friends had passed away this morning. Not giving him any excuses but you know stuff like that sits in your mind.

    Start GREEN !!!! I'm behind you Kirk

     
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    Re: Time for Jeff Green to Start

    prakash

    You're right on the money about the Celts not having enough scoring.

    The previous seasons, the Celts always shot the ball well, 48-49 FG%. Now, the Celts are just shooting 46.2% from the field. Clearly the Celts are having a hard time scoring.

     
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    Re: Time for Jeff Green to Start

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    All I saw was two old and slow players in Pierce and Terry.

    Green was a +5 with 9 rebounds in a game where we were blown out.



    Kirk, Green was only 2-11 from the field tonight. 

    Let's just put it this way, Sully played 25 minutes and ended up with 12 pts and 8 rebs while Jeff Green had 6 pts and 9 rebs in 34 minutes.

    And Green is just a 3 rebound per game guy. It's not like Green has always rebounded the ball well. In fact, Green has never gotten more than 9 rebounds in one game this season!

     
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    Re: Time for Jeff Green to Start

    I know neither PP or Green are 2s but they would win more matchups than lose combining on opponents 2&3. I also realize that AB is coming back and then it would be them combining on opponets 3&4 and I still think we have an advantage most nights

     
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    Re: Time for Jeff Green to Start

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    prakash

    You're right on the money about the Celts not having enough scoring.

    The previous seasons, the Celts always shot the ball well, 48-49 FG%. Now, the Celts are just shooting 46.2% from the field. Clearly the Celts are having a hard time scoring.



    Terry and Pierce are too old.



    Sure Terry and Pierce are too old. But Jeff Green is not providing any scoring also. Is Jeff Green old too?

    Kirk, the Celts traded for Green because they were thinking he will become Pierce's successor. Right now Green's not even close. He just doesn't have that scorer's mentality.

    Also, the Celts are not paying Green 9m per year to just become a role player.

     
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    Re: Time for Jeff Green to Start

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    I know neither PP or Green are 2s but they would win more matchups than lose combining on opponents 2&3. I also realize that AB is coming back and then it would be them combining on opponets 3&4 and I still think we have an advantage most nights



    You didn't see how Green couldn't take advantage of a guy like Steph Curry in the low post?

    Jeff Green just doesn't have that scorer's mentality.

     
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