Tommy's point

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    Tommy's point

    Heard Heinsohn tell Scal a few games ago that it's hard to play with such a deep bench because in reality you're only going to use 8 of them in heavy rotation but if he did have one like the C's do that he would be running all the time to wear down the opposition.

    That said, why wouldn't that make sense with this team too?

    Start the vets and then have your bench come in and run the snot out of the opposition. Easy buckets in transition might bring more confidence to Green, Lee, and Wilcox because they wouldn't be standing around trying to figure out plays, and  pressuring the ball handler at full court and/or trapping at half court might make their defense better too. The uptempo energy would also serve to fire-up the vets while they get much needed rest. 

    After all, what is a deep bench good for if they don't know the plays and/or aren't good on defense? Danny did his job and now it's Doc's turn to do his.

     
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    Re: Tommy's point

    Heinsohn's OLD period.

     

    you can't trust anything he says about playing or coaching in todays NBA.

     

    as for a deep team....we're deeper than we have been the past few years, but hardly a 12 man deep roster.

    Garnett

    Sullinger (jury still out IMO)

    Bass

    Green

    Pierce

    Lee

    Terry

    Rondo

    Barbosa (until Bradley returns)

     

    is a 9 deep team.

     

    Wilcox and Milicic have averaged less than 50 games a year in recent seasons .

    The rest are end of benchers at least for now.

     

    better depth than last year for sure......but a lot of new players to work in...give this team some time to learn to play together

     

     
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    Re: Tommy's point

    Bradley really could be the difference here....with he and Rondo applying pressure the way they did last year our defense should be much better....I agree with Heinsohn though....the youngsters (Rondo, Bradley, Green, amd Lee) should be running and slashing...once Sully gets his feet wet and learns the ropes he will be an effective inside presence...he has a knack for getting rebounds (4 last night in 7 minutes) and he can score...give this team time...

     
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    Re: Tommy's point

    wfdog  -  Tommy also said that they should push the ball every time and if someone wasn't beating the ball up the court he would pull them out of the game.

    I know Tommy is kind of a looney at times,  but don't believe he doesn't know anything about the game still.  That is just wrong.

     
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    Re: Tommy's point

    For years, we have been told that if only R9R had players he could run with, the Cs would just run the opposition into the ground.

    Well we now have those players.

    Why is Rondo still walking the ball up the court while doc  screams.... "Push it, push it, push it!"?

    Pud

     
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    Re: Tommy's point

    In response to puddinpuddin's comment:

    For years, we have been told that if only R9R had players he could run with, the Cs would just run the opposition into the ground.

    Well we now have those players.

    Why is Rondo still walking the ball up the court while doc  screams.... "Push it, push it, push it!"?

    Pud


    Well I guess I have missed all the times he had people ahead of hiim and he didn't push it. Granted I think he could push even more,  the rest of the team doesn't run all the time. You can't just pick and choose and be a running team.  You have to do it all the time.  I also haven't seen Doc screaming at Rondo to push it, push it.

     
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    Re: Tommy's point

    Heinsohn has seen more NBA games over the last 50 years than anyone on this board.  He's seen the game transition from a team-oriented one to an individualized, blacktop version that now exists.  He's not applying 1960 strategies to 2012, but he can't help hoping that the glimmer of 2008 will return when the Celtics stars each let their stats lower in favor of a mission statement that had a ring as the goal.  Heinsohn isn't blind and he's not dotty, yet, and his thoughts certainly have validity - with interchangable players at a few positions, why not expend the talent and run?  Seems very logical, and if the team in Los Angeles brings back Jackson, what do you think the main idea will be there - get the rebounds and get up the floor so that the rapist can get clearer shots on the wing before the defense can set up.  Not a bad way to go for the Celtics, if they can rebound.

     
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    Re: Tommy's point

    Running the opposition into the floor still requires domination of the defensive glass or much more pressure to cause turnovers.  Both were done on a much more regular basis by the Celtics in the 1960s.  Unfortunately, the Celtics have done very little of either so far this season.

    Of course, they would be a better team if they could improve on both of these parts of the game, but they have been a pretty weak rebounding team now for the last few years (lack of coaching emphasis?) and only seem to really pressure the ball when Bradley plays.

     
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    Re: Tommy's point

    Many of the fast breaks shoudl come from tun overs..and we are not getting many of those until we play tougher D...

     
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