Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/22/2012 9:23 AM EST
Let me prefeace by saying every time I propose trading Rondo he starts to play well. So here is a deal that I think we could do if things don't improve by the deadline. It works salary wise.
To the Kings - Rondo, Melo, Lee
To the Celtics - Cousins, Evans Fredette
The Kings will still have Jason Thompson and TRob and they now have Melo with Rondo running the show.
The Celtics get younger and bigger. Cousins immediately starts at C with KG moving to PF. The starters become AB, Terry, PP, KG and Cousins. The bench is Fredette, Evans, Green, Bass and Collins
I guarantee you this is a better cohesive team, better rebounding, scoring and passing. Rondo has the ball in his hands way too much.
Thoughts?
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/22/2012 9:25 AM EST

- Fierce34
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The more realistic scenario is Bass and Lee for Tyreke and Jason Thompson.
If you're hoping Rondo will get traded this season, you'll be disappointed.
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/22/2012 9:37 AM EST

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While I would do that trade in a heartbeat, the Kings would not do it. I really haven't been a supporter of trading Rondo in the past, but since his defense has tapered off and the only thing on offense he looks for are assists, I would move him if we picked up talent, especially big talent. Getting Evans is just icing on the cake on the above move. Jimmy F. would probably flourish on our team if we had a pt guard, which would be in Sac. If there is a way to get Cousins we need to do it now.
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/22/2012 9:48 AM EST

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In response to OneOnOne's comment:
While I would do that trade in a heartbeat, the Kings would not do it. I really haven't been a supporter of trading Rondo in the past, but since his defense has tapered off and the only thing on offense he looks for are assists, I would move him if we picked up talent, especially big talent. Getting Evans is just icing on the cake on the above move. Jimmy F. would probably flourish on our team if we had a pt guard, which would be in Sac. If there is a way to get Cousins we need to do it now.
Maybe next season, but Rondo getting traded this season is highly unlikely.
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/22/2012 9:49 AM EST
I just see more people getting involved when Rondo is out. I doubt Ainge will do it but we really don't have many assets that could garner a good frontline player...except Rondo. Bass, Green, Lee or Wilcox aren't getting us what we need in a big.
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/22/2012 10:10 AM EST

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In response to BirdLewsBias' comment:
I just see more people getting involved when Rondo is out. I doubt Ainge will do it but we really don't have many assets that could garner a good frontline player...except Rondo. Bass, Green, Lee or Wilcox aren't getting us what we need in a big.
It's not just about talent, it's also about economics. You didn't factor in salaries and draft picks.
We'll know more once Bass and Green can be traded on Jan. 15.
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/22/2012 11:11 AM EST
I just proposed the same trade last night..........we need another scorer...if it takes Rondo to get us one (Cousins), who can also rebound, so be it!
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/22/2012 11:17 AM EST

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In response to hedleylamarr's comment:
I just proposed the same trade last night..........we need another scorer...if it takes Rondo to get us one (Cousins), who can also rebound, so be it!
Not happening this season for economic reasons.
Rondo will be the starting PG for the east All-Stars this February. You know what that means.
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/22/2012 11:25 AM EST
In response to Fierce34's comment:
In response to hedleylamarr's comment:
I just proposed the same trade last night..........we need another scorer...if it takes Rondo to get us one (Cousins), who can also rebound, so be it!
Not happening this season for economic reasons.
Rondo will be the starting PG for the east All-Stars this February. You know what that means.
I do................but I'm so frustrated by him......last night he looked like a guy who wanted the game over with, so he could go home and play video games!!
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/22/2012 11:30 AM EST

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In response to hedleylamarr's comment:
I do................but I'm so frustrated by him......last night he looked like a guy who wanted the game over with, so he could go home and play video games!!
Come on, it's not like you don't know Mr. Rondo. You have to take the good with the bad when it comes to Rondo.
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/22/2012 11:46 AM EST
In response to OneOnOne's comment:
While I would do that trade in a heartbeat, the Kings would not do it. I really haven't been a supporter of trading Rondo in the past, but since his defense has tapered off and the only thing on offense he looks for are assists, I would move him if we picked up talent, especially big talent. Getting Evans is just icing on the cake on the above move. Jimmy F. would probably flourish on our team if we had a pt guard, which would be in Sac. If there is a way to get Cousins we need to do it now.
Cousins and Tyreke Evans for Rondo? Yeah, I would do that trade in a heartbeat, but Sacramento wouldn't. Lee has NO value whatsoever.
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/22/2012 8:25 PM EST

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BLB, your trade is intrigueing and all those players have upside. One you didn't mention that can and will have an impact on this Celtic roster whether starting or off the bench is Sully. Cousins would immediately start, Fredette is getting up to speed with the faster pace NBA but will always just be a shooter (yes there is a place for just shooters in the NBA game). But if you think Rondo holds onto the ball to much, consider T Evans a black hole once the ball is in his hands. Another player with great ability but not a team player and that is the Kings problem> A lot of young talent that are a bunch of indidviduals that are ME first.
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/22/2012 8:45 PM EST

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am I the only one who thinks Doc will NEVER trade Rondo?
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/22/2012 9:02 PM EST
I guess I can live with the "trade Rondo" posts as long as it's understood that he is not going to be traded this year, unless for some reason he does something really dumb and gets suspended for multiple games again. Otherwise he is here.
But if it's entertaining to have a complete fantasy thread on trading him, then sure, go ahead. He does have tradeable contract.
p.s. Bird Bias Lewis when Pierce is playing like he is now it's not Rondo's job to pass it to some schmo who can't shoot in order to spread the ball around. It's his job to get it to Pierce so he can put it in the hole. It wasn't Rondo's fault that "The Jet" was grounded with a 1 for 15 game.
One game before your post Rondo scored almost 30 points and clocked in eight assists.
Plus as you'll recall he plays very well with Bradley. Here's a wild idea: how about waiting until Bradley comes back. Then have another look.
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/22/2012 9:29 PM EST

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Here's what Sherrod said about Cousins:
SherrodbCSN RT @JustinMDaly:@SherrodbCSN any scenario where the Celtics can trade for recently disciplined Cousins?-> DC's troubles > his talent now
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/22/2012 9:43 PM EST

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R U kidding me? Danny would trade Rondo straight up for Cousins in a second. Anybody who wouldn't do that trade is crazy. Cousins is a rare franchise making center. Rondo is easily replaceable, in fact, Bradley could step in and do a respectable job.
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/22/2012 10:08 PM EST

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In response to Eldunker's comment:
R U kidding me? Danny would trade Rondo straight up for Cousins in a second. Anybody who wouldn't do that trade is crazy. Cousins is a rare franchise making center. Rondo is easily replaceable, in fact, Bradley could step in and do a respectable job.
Lee for Cousins.
Rondo will not be traded this season.
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/23/2012 12:59 AM EST

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Fierce. You can't possibly be serious...Lee for Cousins? A struggling, second string SG with declining productivity for a starting center, (a looney bin, yes) with unlimited upside potential in his second season with 18PPG and 11RPG !!!!
This board typically WAY over-values our players, but Fierce, my man, please tell me you are joking or I will lose all respect for your basketball acumen.
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/23/2012 1:10 AM EST

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In response to Eldunker's comment:
Fierce. You can't possibly be serious...Lee for Cousins? A struggling, second string SG with declining productivity for a starting center, (a looney bin, yes) with unlimited upside potential in his second season with 18PPG and 11RPG !!!!
This board typically WAY over-values our players, but Fierce, my man, please tell me you are joking or I will lose all respect for your basketball acumen.
That's my way of saying I don't want Cousins.
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/23/2012 1:16 AM EST

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Seriously, I don't mind having Cousins at a low price. But if it's going to cost us Rondo for Cousins, no way!
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/23/2012 1:28 AM EST

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Cousins is trouble with a capital T. Both the NBA and the Kings have suspended him for insubordination and disrespectful conduct. He also doesn't get along well with his teammates. Why would the Celtics want someone like him on the team? It's not all about basketball. Players represent the organization and the community.
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Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/23/2012 6:48 AM EST
In response to 34wheelchair's comment:
In response to Fierce34's comment:
In response to Eldunker's comment:
R U kidding me? Danny would trade Rondo straight up for Cousins in a second. Anybody who wouldn't do that trade is crazy. Cousins is a rare franchise making center. Rondo is easily replaceable, in fact, Bradley could step in and do a respectable job.
Lee for Cousins.
Rondo will not be traded this season.
LEE FOR COUSINS STRAIGHT UP???????????
OMG MY STOMACH HURTS FROM LAUGHING SO HARD!!!!
Here's my concern about Rondo, who I believe is the best pure point guard in the league and no one runs a half court offense as brilliantly as he does....at times - most of the time, but his attitude is questionable - not interms of work ethic, but, rather, in general life outlook. He is moody and I do question how truly popular he is with other players on the team. I also think he will be a nightmare to deal with in the next contract negotiation. How long is that away? 3 years? With that chip he has on his shoulder there is no way he doesn't demand a max contract and I don't believe anyone on this board is comfortable with him and a max length/money contract. I also believe his value is at an all-time high now. I also believe his career will not be all that long. He's not a big guy and he plays very hard. That's going to start to take its toll sooner than later. My 2 cents.
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/23/2012 6:52 AM EST
In response to teejaytee70's comment:
In response to 34wheelchair's comment:
In response to Fierce34's comment:
In response to Eldunker's comment:
R U kidding me? Danny would trade Rondo straight up for Cousins in a second. Anybody who wouldn't do that trade is crazy. Cousins is a rare franchise making center. Rondo is easily replaceable, in fact, Bradley could step in and do a respectable job.
Lee for Cousins.
Rondo will not be traded this season.
LEE FOR COUSINS STRAIGHT UP???????????
OMG MY STOMACH HURTS FROM LAUGHING SO HARD!!!!
Here's my concern about Rondo, who I believe is the best pure point guard in the league and no one runs a half court offense as brilliantly as he does....at times - most of the time, but his attitude is questionable - not interms of work ethic, but, rather, in general life outlook. He is moody and I do question how truly popular he is with other players on the team. I also think he will be a nightmare to deal with in the next contract negotiation. How long is that away? 3 years? With that chip he has on his shoulder there is no way he doesn't demand a max contract and I don't believe anyone on this board is comfortable with him and a max length/money contract. I also believe his value is at an all-time high now. I also believe his career will not be all that long. He's not a big guy and he plays very hard. That's going to start to take its toll sooner than later. My 2 cents.
....and I'm sorry to say this, but the Celtics are in decline. At this point, they are not 3 years away from their next title - if KG's game drifts any further from the paint, by the 3rd year of this deal he'll be playing from the press box. Rondo will be 30 in 3 years and looking for a max length contract.
Re: Trade involving Rondo
posted at 12/23/2012 6:53 AM EST

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In response to teejaytee70's comment:
Here's my concern about Rondo, who I believe is the best pure point guard in the league and no one runs a half court offense as brilliantly as he does....at times - most of the time, but his attitude is questionable - not interms of work ethic, but, rather, in general life outlook. He is moody and I do question how truly popular he is with other players on the team. I also think he will be a nightmare to deal with in the next contract negotiation. How long is that away? 3 years? With that chip he has on his shoulder there is no way he doesn't demand a max contract and I don't believe anyone on this board is comfortable with him and a max length/money contract. I also believe his value is at an all-time high now. I also believe his career will not be all that long. He's not a big guy and he plays very hard. That's going to start to take its toll sooner than later. My 2 cents.
I don't disagree with you, but why trade Rondo now when the Celts are still in the hunt?
If you will tell me that the purpose of trading Rondo is for a total rebuild, then I agree trading Rondo is an option.
Trading Rondo now only means giving up on the season.