Trade JON & Daniels for Posey??

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    y would indiana want a 2 year deal with JO? comes down to posey for daniels and perhaps a second rounder in next year's draft...right now i won't do it. would rather go with luke in a pich. marquis gives us too much versatility as a backup PG and he slashes to hoop and create his own shot. y do we want another guy who can't create his own shot? avery bradley and a 2 for posey? perhaps!both ray and marquis and ray can play the wing..we have delonte vcoming bak, he could be out there too.. u never have enough bigs.. heck, if we can bring back rasheed for the play off run, y not? posey could help with a lebron in the playoffs but think we can beat them without him. bottom line: no way we mess with the top 10 guys in our rotation. posey will be an extra part as will sheed!i forgot.. we have wafer, he is as good as posey at defense at this point.. 
     
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    BiasLewis, you know there's something wrong with your ideas when only you and a poster by the name of StupidEediot are the only ones who agree with each other.
     
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    BiasLewis thinks Glen Davis is not one of the top 6 or 7 players on the Celtics roster.

    HAHAHA!!!
     
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    No!

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    JON has said he wants to retire a Pacer. Well I'm all for giving him his wish before the trading deadline and before he goes back on the injury list. JON and Daniels for Posey. Perk comes back and Posey gives us more versatility than Daniels and better defense.
    Posted by BiasLewis

     
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    "I'm not saying that it's the best move for the C's but #18 won't depend on whether BBD is a Celtics or not. As long as we have a healthy top 6-7 guys, we're good. Get a clue!!"

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    I'm not saying that it's the best move for the C's but #18 won't depend on whether BBD is a Celtics or not. As long as we have a healthy top 6-7 guys, we're good. Get a clue!!

    The C's are loaded and I'd rather Ainge move BBD and get something while his value is high rather than watch him walk EVEN after winning #18. You never let a guy walk when your team needs some younger players. If Ainge can sign him I think he will. Let's not start getting carried away with resigning guys that are role players again. This board seemed to do that with TA and Posey...we have to sign them, we have to sign them. Well Ainge knows what pieces fit with this team and those guys should've stayed and they'd still be known on a good team instead of bit pieces on mediocre teams. BBD needs to realize the same thing.
     
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    According to rumor central Richard Hamilton is growing restless in Detroit. If it wasn't for the awful contract he would make sense. Just a thought.
     
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    Daniels puts in quality minutes and plays solid defense, he's been in the system for 2 years and is an important piece of the puzzle.  He's playing great defense and is very solid on the offensive end and gets rebounds.  Why would you consider trading a player who puts in minutes that are high quality?  This team has good chemistry and if they stay healthy they have a shot at winning it all this year.  I say no trades, but play everyone some minutes because the vets need their minutes limited to stay healthy.  If you're on the team, you play at least 5 minutes a night.  I'd rather lose a game or 2 during the regular season than lose a player due to an overuse injury right before the playoffs. 
     
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    Daniels puts in quality minutes and plays solid defense, he's been in the system for 2 years and is an important piece of the puzzle.  He's playing great defense and is very solid on the offensive end and gets rebounds.  Why would you consider trading a player who puts in minutes that are high quality?  This team has good chemistry and if they stay healthy they have a shot at winning it all this year.  I say no trades, but play everyone some minutes because the vets need their minutes limited to stay healthy.  If you're on the team, you play at least 5 minutes a night.  I'd rather lose a game or 2 during the regular season than lose a player due to an overuse injury right before the playoffs. 
    Posted by jeezem


    You say no trades, how about signing Mikki Moore as an insurance policy?
     
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    In Response to Re: Trade JON & Daniels for Posey??:
    and Dumars owes us When nobody else would step in and make the $ work back in '04 to help Detroit get Sheed in a 3-way trade, there was Danny with a few expiring contracts (Brad Mills, some bum center named Stewart) to help him land the big that got them past LA for the ring It essentially was a Mike James for Tony Allen (or maybe it was DWest) swap for us. And James also came up big for the Pistons that year
    Posted by rameakap


    Do you think we should trade Glen Davis if he doesn't sign an extension before the trade deadline in February?
     
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    In Response to Re: Trade JON & Daniels for Posey?? : Why on earth would I think that? He's the 6th best and 5th most productive player on this team. Our other bigs are all old, recovering from knee injuries, or both. Davis is a monster right now and knows how to play with the core of this team very well.
    Posted by rameakap


    READ THAT, BIASLEWIS!
     
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    In Response to Re: Trade JON & Daniels for Posey??:
    I am on the record as saying offer Davis a contract that goes like 5-4.25-5-5.75-6.5 after the season. That is 5/26.5. Low cap 3 for offseason of '12 when we'd like a little space to add a young wing to complement Rondo. It is less than the full MLE Davis likley will find is his best offer. But its more than fair for a 6th man who is comfortable in this city and clearly values winning. If he continues to lose a little fat each offseason and work on his game then he could be a 16-7 guy starting at PF when KG is gone. His lack of above the rim game for a PF-C is offset by an 18-20 footer. His lack of blocks is offset by taking more than a charge per game. His girth is an asset making difficult layups look easy and pushing taller players out of comfort zone. If he turns such a contract down (I think he'd want 5/40) we have to use the full MLE on a backup PF. My choice is David West. He may not have offers much more than that or may prefer to choose between MLE offers from contenders over 4 year 36-45 million offers from teams he won't win it all with. Or maybe he gets 5/50 and i am way off:-) I'd think it VERY important to both our '11 and '12 title hopes if we can upgrade Daniels by Feb with a player like Prince or Wallace who we can retain or have under contact w/o having to use next years MLE on a SF at all.
    Posted by rameakap


    BIASLEWIS, IS RAME ON CRACK TOO?
     
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    I'm gald you'll have decided what BBD will take and won't take for a contract. It's not only the contract but the chance that he'll get to start.

    P34 you continue to misrepresent what I said but it's cool.

    Keep two names in mind when you're talking about pending FAs with the C's.

    Tony Allen
    James Posey

    We could've wrote this same thread about each of them 2-3 years ago and just changed the names. I like BBD and hope he stays with the C's BUT I'm not going to say WE HAVE TO KEEP HIM TO WIN TITLES.
     
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    In Response to Re: Trade JON & Daniels for Posey??:
    I'm gald you'll have decided what BBD will take and won't take for a contract. It's not only the contract but the chance that he'll get to start. P34 you continue to misrepresent what I said but it's cool. Keep two names in mind when you're talking about pending FAs with the C's. Tony Allen James Posey We could've wrote this same thread about each of them 2-3 years ago and just changed the names. I like BBD and hope he stays with the C's BUT I'm not going to say WE HAVE TO KEEP HIM TO WIN TITLES.
    Posted by BiasLewis


    We need to keep BBD to win 1 title, not titles. Next year is a different story.

    The Celtics best 5 is Pierce, Ray, KG, Rondo, and Davis. If you have been watching the Celtics this season you know I'm not lying when I say Glen Davis is always on the floor when there's only less than 5 minutes remaining in the game.
     
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    Ok P34 what happens when BBD has to match up against Bynum/Gasol, Dirk/Chandler??

    THIS is why Ainge went and signed more bigs, not just because we lost Perk.

    BBD is good but he can't cover PFs who are 6'10 and bigger...he struggles. Doc likes to play KG & BBD together but against some teams it causes problems. See game 6 & 7 of the Finals.

    Now please get off your knees in front of BBD it's not a good look...geesh!!
     
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    In Response to Re: Trade JON & Daniels for Posey??:
    Ok P34 what happens when BBD has to match up against Bynum/Gasol, Dirk/Chandler?? THIS is why Ainge went and signed more bigs, not just because we lost Perk. BBD is good but he can't cover PFs who are 6'10 and bigger...he struggles. Doc likes to play KG & BBD together but against some teams it causes problems. See game 6 & 7 of the Finals. Now please get off your knees in front of BBD it's not a good look...geesh!!
    Posted by BiasLewis


    Bynum/Gasol and Dirk/Chandler, we'll we face them in the playoffs?

    Don't forget that the Celtics will most likely face the Heat, Bulls, Hawks, or Magic in the playoffs. Those teams don't have Dirk/Chandler and Gasol Bynum.

    You have to reach the Finals first before you can talk about Bynum/Gasol or Dirk/Chandler. And it's either the Lakers or Mavs, the Celtics will only face one of those teams.

    Are you getting it already?

    When the Celtics do face either the Lakers or the Mavs in the Finals then it will be KG and Shaq, Perk, or JO. That's 3 big men with experience, just pick one. Get it? 

     
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    In case the Spurs come out of the west then it's a 6-7 Dejuan Blair against Baby.

    BBD is very effective if there are no Gasol/Bynum and Dirk/Chandler. The Celtics only play the Mavs and the Lakers twice every season. That means BBD is only at a disadvantage in 4 regular season games. Three to be exact because the Celtics already played the Mavs in November. Is that such a bad thing?
     
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    Boy, you're hard headed. I'm well aware of the teams we play but as you always like to talk...titles. I'm not concerned about the East but to beat the Lakers (who we lost too) you need more size. So if we can beat the East teams without BBD and go with KG, Shaq, Perk and JO against the Lakers where is YOUR NEED TO HAVE BBD?? See that's my point, you're acting like we need him to win a title and I'm saying we can win a title without BBD. Get it!!
     
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    In Response to Re: Trade JON & Daniels for Posey??:
    Boy, you're hard headed. I'm well aware of the teams we play but as you always like to talk...titles. I'm not concerned about the East but to beat the Lakers (who we lost too) you need more size. So if we can beat the East teams without BBD and go with KG, Shaq, Perk and JO against the Lakers where is YOUR NEED TO HAVE BBD?? See that's my point, you're acting like we need him to win a title and I'm saying we can win a title without BBD. Get it!!
    Posted by BiasLewis


    You're really dumb. No wonder you thought Argentina was in Europe.

    Before you talk Finals we have to get there first. What's the point in preparing for the Lakers if you can't reach the Finals.

    BBD is very effective against the Heat, Magic, Bulls, and Hawks because those teams don't have a big man like Pau Gasol, Chandler, Bynum, or Dirk.
     
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    In Response to Re: Trade JON & Daniels for Posey??:
    In case the Spurs come out of the west then it's a 6-7 Dejuan Blair against Baby. BBD is very effective if there are no Gasol/Bynum and Dirk/Chandler. The Celtics only play the Mavs and the Lakers twice every season. That means BBD is only at a disadvantage in 4 regular season games. Three to be exact because the Celtics already played the Mavs in November. Is that such a bad thing?
    Posted by P34


    Why can't we play KG/Shaq, JON/Perk, KG/Perk, JON/Shaq against ANY team in the league? Why do feel this team goes nowhere without BBD? Are you his agent. LOL! Wow! Never seen so much love for BBD.
     
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    In Response to Re: Trade JON & Daniels for Posey??:
    In Response to Re: Trade JON & Daniels for Posey?? : Why can't we play KG/Shaq, JON/Perk, KG/Perk, JON/Shaq against ANY team in the league? Why do feel this team goes nowhere without BBD? Are you his agent. LOL! Wow! Never seen so much love for BBD.
    Posted by BiasLewis


    Are you blind? Or you don't see the Celtic games?

    Shaq can't shoot like BBD, is not better on defense than BBD, and is not a better FT shooter than BBD.

    JO has been injured since preseason. The Celtics say his knees have no damage but it's arthritic. That means JO's knees can flare-up any time without warning.

    And Perk? How many games have Perk played in this season? Oh I forgot, he's still recovering from MAJOR knee surgery. You sure he will be 100% when he gets back?
     
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    Dude, you are confusing the hell out of me. One minute you're building these guys up, then the next minute you're calling out all their flaws. Which is it?? LOL!

    BBD has shortcomings too...he's 6'7 and gets rebounded over a lot. He's can't defend in the post. He can't play above the rim.

    When I brought up bringin in another big you said we didn't need one. Now you run off all the problems with our bigs.
     
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    In Response to Re: Trade JON & Daniels for Posey??:
    Dude, you are confusing the hell out of me. One minute you're building these guys up, then the next minute you're calling out all their flaws. Which is it?? LOL! BBD has shortcomings too...he's 6'7 and gets rebounded over a lot. He's can't defend in the post. He can't play above the rim. When I brought up bringin in another big you said we didn't need one. Now you run off all the problems with our bigs.
    Posted by BiasLewis


    If what you're saying is true then why are the Celtics outrebounding their opponents, 39.6 to 38.0? What proof do you have that indicates Davis can't defend the post? And does every big man need to play above the rim to be effective? 

    Glen Davis 12.2 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 50% FG%, and 78% FT% - 6th man of the year candidate.

    Your idea of bringing in another big man was stupid. You know why? I'll tell you why, YOU WANTED THE CELTICS TO SIGN MIKKI MOORE!
     
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