Trade Rondo to Atlanta? What is Danny Ferry's plan?

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    Trade Rondo to Atlanta? What is Danny Ferry's plan?

    Ferry holds the key to a VERY interesting offseason up his sleeve.

    He has one month to decide if:

    A. He builds his team around Horford and the young pieces he has assembled and trades FA to be Josh Smith, who is unhappy with that direction.

    or

    B. If he tries to sign Howard and put best friends Smith and Howard on the same team together.

    Smith recently told ESPN the mag that he and Howard would def discuss teaming up this offseason. He was best man at Howard's wedding.

     
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    Re: Trade Rondo to Atlanta? What is Danny Ferry's plan?

    Ferry's dream situation would be to unite Howard, CP3 and Smith on the same team.

    But with the way the Clippers are playing Paul likely stays there AND such a move is impossible cap wise unless Smith signs for half what he is making now (yeah right) or they trade Lou Williams for an expiring deal and Smith, Howard and Paul all sign for 2-3 million less than the max and much less than they would if they all stayed put.

    Another interesting idea though would be Ferry trading for Rondo now. Rondo went to Oak Hill with Smith and it is widely known that they are close, Howard and he are close as well and Dwight always talked up his game.

    A Rondo-Bass for Devin Harris-Al Horford trade would help both teams if that was Ferry's plan (Bos would have to add Collins to make $ work).

    Atlanta gets a MUCH better draft pick this year, as they'd fall out of the playoff picture, and has the cash to get Howard and roll out a Rondo-Williams-Smith-Bass-Howard starting 5 next year (Jenkins, Teague, a pick, MLE guys on the bench).

    Horford is equal value at PF to Rondo at PG and would give us an instant all-star level 16/10 guy to start and help KG upfront. Sully and Wilcox are solid backups. Harris is better than and more of a traditional PG than Barbosa. He would be a solid big minute backup PG who can defend SG's at 6'4" and let the 6'1" Terry play less mins and guard PG's. Avery and Lee, while neither being a true PG, looks like it could be a great backcourt combo for years.

     
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    Re: Trade Rondo to Atlanta? What is Danny Ferry's plan?

    If Ferry decides to trade Smith the Celtics could go after him as well and team him with Rondo in the future.

    Green, Terry, Bass, Melo and future picks for Smith and Harris would be a great deal for us. Atlanta would probably require us to swap Terry for Avery though.

     
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    Re: Trade Rondo to Atlanta? What is Danny Ferry's plan?

    I want Teague, not Harris.........if we have to get a 3rd team involved, so be it

     
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    Re: Trade Rondo to Atlanta? What is Danny Ferry's plan?

    In response to rameakap's comment:

    If Ferry decides to trade Smith the Celtics could go after him as well and team him with Rondo in the future.

    Green, Terry, Bass, Melo and future picks for Smith and Harris would be a great deal for us. Atlanta would probably require us to swap Terry for Avery though.



    This would scenario would be my top, pick. If we managed to get Smith along with another year out of KG and Pierce and Rondo and assuming we kept Bradley, it would be a defense for the ages. Not a bad offense either. 

     
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    Re: Trade Rondo to Atlanta? What is Danny Ferry's plan?

    In response to rameakap's comment:

    If Ferry decides to trade Smith the Celtics could go after him as well and team him with Rondo in the future.

    Green, Terry, Bass, Melo and future picks for Smith and Harris would be a great deal for us. Atlanta would probably require us to swap Terry for Avery though.




    But isn't one of your premise is Smith want to team up with Howard?  How would Smith do that coming to the Celtics?  We are not going under cap anytime soon or when Howard is a FA after this season.  And Lakers are not sending Howard to the Celtics, I don't see that happening either.

     
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    Re: Trade Rondo to Atlanta? What is Danny Ferry's plan?

    If we got Smith we would just have to hold our breathe that he resigns with us and wants to play w/ Rondo. I mean how many teams out there could get both him and Howard this summer? Could any of them?

    Howard could do several things if Smith were not on the Hawks anymore:

    1.) Resign with LA for the max over 5 years

    - this would make me think he's scared about his back, he seems miserable in LA and they won't compete with Kobe and Nash being 35/40 and no picks unless they can get a steal of a trade return for Gasol.

    2.) Sign with Dallas for 4 years at the max, leave some $ on the table to find a happier place. Collison-Mayo-Dirk-Howard would be better than the '14 Lakers but prob not better than OKC, the Heat or even the Clippers.

    3.) Sign with LA for 2 years, getting more $ over those 2 years than he would the first two of a 4 year max deal elsewhere. Being in LA for a short period (this would show that his back was ok) he could  try and win with Kobe/Nash and a new coach then dip to a team with lots of cap space and his friends in 2015 or hope LA gets guys with all the space they'd have then.

     
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    Re: Trade Rondo to Atlanta? What is Danny Ferry's plan?

    In response to rameakap's comment:

    If we got Smith we would just have to hold our breathe that he resigns with us and wants to play w/ Rondo. I mean how many teams out there could get both him and Howard this summer? Could any of them?

    Howard could do several things if Smith were not on the Hawks anymore:

    1.) Resign with LA for the max over 5 years

    - this would make me think he's scared about his back, he seems miserable in LA and they won't compete with Kobe and Nash being 35/40 and no picks unless they can get a steal of a trade return for Gasol.

    2.) Sign with Dallas for 4 years at the max, leave some $ on the table to find a happier place. Collison-Mayo-Dirk-Howard would be better than the '14 Lakers but prob not better than OKC, the Heat or even the Clippers.

    3.) Sign with LA for 2 years, getting more $ over those 2 years than he would the first two of a 4 year max deal elsewhere. Being in LA for a short period (this would show that his back was ok) he could  try and win with Kobe/Nash and a new coach then dip to a team with lots of cap space and his friends in 2015 or hope LA gets guys with all the space they'd have then.



    I don't like that Josh Smith,  he is too much like Rondo,  inconsistent from game to game.  His shooting is unbelievably inconsistent.  To have Rondo and Smith in the line-up when they go both go cold could be a nightmare.  What seems the best idea would be a trade for Horford. If we could get him here for this season, things could get really interesting or are you suggesting waiting for Rondo to recover from his injury and do it next season?

    Waiting ten games to see if this team can play without Rondo probably is a good idea since we only have two games without him and everyone is talking like Rondo has held us back.

     

     
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    Re: Trade Rondo to Atlanta? What is Danny Ferry's plan?

    In response to Fierce34's comment:

    Suns have more to offer.

    Here:

    NBA PM: Phoenix Suns Pursuing Josh Smith
    Read more at http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-pm-phoenix-suns-pursuing-josh-smith/#c8Oerk19xwDrleJG.99 

    Phoenix has attractive assets, particularly Marcin Gortat, who could play alongside Al Horford and give the Hawks one of the best frontcourts in the Eastern Conference.




    They do have more to offer, but would Smith sign an extension with them? That could be a deal breaker.

     
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