Trade targets for the C's!

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    Trade targets for the Boston Celtics

    Posted November 27th, 2012 by  & filed under Boston Celtics.

    Is “Trader Danny” ready to strike?

    Christmas decorations are still going up and trade talk has already begun to swirl around the Boston Celtics.  The team’s rebounding woes and inconsistent defense combined with a potentially crowded backcourt and, of course, Danny Ainge’s reputation has led to talk about several names that may be available.

    Pau Gasol

    The Lakers’ early struggles have caused many to speculate that they will move Gasol in exchange for a more perimeter-oriented and athletic power forward to complement Dwight Howard.  The matchup between Gasol and Kevin Garnett were central to the outcomes of the 2008 and 2010 finals, could they play alongside each other?

    The pairing would allow Gasol to move back to the 5 and get the low post touches he is missing in LA.  He would also absorb some of the rebounding burden that KG is shouldering and the tandem would be the best passing set of big men in the league.

    However, a deal between the Celtics and the Lakers involving Gasol would be extremely unlikely.  Matching Gasol’s 19M salary would require gutting virtually all of the Celtics depth.  Beyond that, it is questionable as to whether Boston has the pieces to satisfy LA’s needs.

    Josh Smith

    The versatile 6-10 forward has yet to sign an extension with the Hawks.  His impending free agency and the Hawks recent rebuilding efforts have fueled talk that Smith will be moved before the trade deadline.  His name has been linked with several teams including the Celtics and the Lakers.

    The thought of Smith finishing fast break feeds from Rondo and pairing with KG to give the Celtics a fearsome duo of rim-protecters is certainly intriguing.  Even his most ardent detractors admit that the tutelage of Doc Rivers and Kevin Garnett might be the best opportunity for the multi-talented but underachieving talent to harness his skills.

    What would it take to entice Atlanta to deal him?  It’s likely that the Hawks demands would start with Avery Bradley and Jared Sullinger and for salary purposes, either Jeff Green or a combination of Brandon Bass and Courtney Lee would have to be involved.  Would a Bass/Lee/Sullinger package be enough to bring Smith to Boston?

    Marcin Gortat

    In recent weeks, Gortat’s name has been discussed at length.  He has expressed unhappiness in his role with Phoenix and his performance has dipped sharply since last year when he posted career highs in points (15.4) and rebounds (10.0).

    The “Polish Hammer” would seem to be a good fit for the Celtics.  He flourished playing with Steve Nash and could similarly thrive with Rondo as his point guard.  His rebounding and size in the middle could shore up the defense and allow KG to move back to the 4.  However, with the current trend in the NBA towards smaller lineups and stretch 4s, is that the direction that the Doc Rivers and Danny Ainge want to take the team in?

    Gortat’s salary is just under 8M/year on a deal with 2 years remaining.  Again, the Suns would likely be looking for either Avery Bradley or Jared Sullinger as the centerpiece of a deal with Brandon Bass as part of the package to match salaries.

    Drew Gooden

    The Bucks appear to be actively shopping the 10-year veteran who has fallen out of coach Scott Skiles’ rotation.  Milwaukee would likely not be looking for much in return for Gooden, but his 6.7M salary would probably mean that Brandon Bass would be involved in the deal.  Gooden, even in his best days, isn’t really an upgrade over Bass.  He is also owed 21M over the next 3 years.  It wouldn’t appear that the Celtics would have much interest in a deal.

    How likely is it that we will see a deal?  One fact to consider in any trade scenario involving the Celtics is that most of their bargaining chips are subject to CBA restrictions that prevent them from being traded until at least mid-December.  Jason Collins, Chris Wilcox, Courtney Lee and Jason Terry all have trade restrictions that don’t expire until December 15h.  Jeff Green and Brandon Bass have trade restrictions that expire January 15th and Leandro Barbosa’s expires January 18th.  Certainly Avery Bradley and Jared Sullinger are potential pieces in a deal, but their relatively low salaries make it unlikely that they are dealt without at least one of the other players subject to the trade restrictions.

    The likelihood of any deal largely rests on the play of Jeff Green, and to a lesser extent Jared Sullinger.  If Green can contribute scoring, energy, and athleticism as Ainge clearly envisions and if Sullinger can help alleviate the rebounding concerns, the Celtics can explore the trade market from a position of strength.  They can look to use Green and peripheral assets to bring in a potential impact player and future cornerstone like Josh Smith while still being comfortable with standing pat.

    If Green continues to be inconsistent and unreliable and Ainge perceives that the team isn’t capable of contending for a title, it is likely that “Trader Danny” will be more actively trying to shake up the roster.  Such a shake-up could mean sacrificing a young talent like Bradley or Sullinger.

     

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    I like the Gortat trade, but only if they take Bradley.....NO on Sullinger!

     
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    Trade targets for the Boston Celtics

    Posted November 27th, 2012 by Rich Conte & filed under Boston Celtics.

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    Is “Trader Danny” ready to strike?

    Christmas decorations are still going up and trade talk has already begun to swirl around the Boston Celtics.  The team’s rebounding woes and inconsistent defense combined with a potentially crowded backcourt and, of course, Danny Ainge’s reputation has led to talk about several names that may be available.

    Pau Gasol

    The Lakers’ early struggles have caused many to speculate that they will move Gasol in exchange for a more perimeter-oriented and athletic power forward to complement Dwight Howard.  The matchup between Gasol and Kevin Garnett were central to the outcomes of the 2008 and 2010 finals, could they play alongside each other?

    The pairing would allow Gasol to move back to the 5 and get the low post touches he is missing in LA.  He would also absorb some of the rebounding burden that KG is shouldering and the tandem would be the best passing set of big men in the league.

    However, a deal between the Celtics and the Lakers involving Gasol would be extremely unlikely.  Matching Gasol’s 19M salary would require gutting virtually all of the Celtics depth.  Beyond that, it is questionable as to whether Boston has the pieces to satisfy LA’s needs.

    Josh Smith

    The versatile 6-10 forward has yet to sign an extension with the Hawks.  His impending free agency and the Hawks recent rebuilding efforts have fueled talk that Smith will be moved before the trade deadline.  His name has been linked with several teams including the Celtics and the Lakers.

    The thought of Smith finishing fast break feeds from Rondo and pairing with KG to give the Celtics a fearsome duo of rim-protecters is certainly intriguing.  Even his most ardent detractors admit that the tutelage of Doc Rivers and Kevin Garnett might be the best opportunity for the multi-talented but underachieving talent to harness his skills.

    What would it take to entice Atlanta to deal him?  It’s likely that the Hawks demands would start with Avery Bradley and Jared Sullinger and for salary purposes, either Jeff Green or a combination of Brandon Bass and Courtney Lee would have to be involved.  Would a Bass/Lee/Sullinger package be enough to bring Smith to Boston?

    Marcin Gortat

    In recent weeks, Gortat’s name has been discussed at length.  He has expressed unhappiness in his role with Phoenix and his performance has dipped sharply since last year when he posted career highs in points (15.4) and rebounds (10.0).

    The “Polish Hammer” would seem to be a good fit for the Celtics.  He flourished playing with Steve Nash and could similarly thrive with Rondo as his point guard.  His rebounding and size in the middle could shore up the defense and allow KG to move back to the 4.  However, with the current trend in the NBA towards smaller lineups and stretch 4s, is that the direction that the Doc Rivers and Danny Ainge want to take the team in?

    Gortat’s salary is just under 8M/year on a deal with 2 years remaining.  Again, the Suns would likely be looking for either Avery Bradley or Jared Sullinger as the centerpiece of a deal with Brandon Bass as part of the package to match salaries.

    Drew Gooden

    The Bucks appear to be actively shopping the 10-year veteran who has fallen out of coach Scott Skiles’ rotation.  Milwaukee would likely not be looking for much in return for Gooden, but his 6.7M salary would probably mean that Brandon Bass would be involved in the deal.  Gooden, even in his best days, isn’t really an upgrade over Bass.  He is also owed 21M over the next 3 years.  It wouldn’t appear that the Celtics would have much interest in a deal.

    How likely is it that we will see a deal?  One fact to consider in any trade scenario involving the Celtics is that most of their bargaining chips are subject to CBA restrictions that prevent them from being traded until at least mid-December.  Jason Collins, Chris Wilcox, Courtney Lee and Jason Terry all have trade restrictions that don’t expire until December 15h.  Jeff Green and Brandon Bass have trade restrictions that expire January 15th and Leandro Barbosa’s expires January 18th.  Certainly Avery Bradley and Jared Sullinger are potential pieces in a deal, but their relatively low salaries make it unlikely that they are dealt without at least one of the other players subject to the trade restrictions.

    The likelihood of any deal largely rests on the play of Jeff Green, and to a lesser extent Jared Sullinger.  If Green can contribute scoring, energy, and athleticism as Ainge clearly envisions and if Sullinger can help alleviate the rebounding concerns, the Celtics can explore the trade market from a position of strength.  They can look to use Green and peripheral assets to bring in a potential impact player and future cornerstone like Josh Smith while still being comfortable with standing pat.

    If Green continues to be inconsistent and unreliable and Ainge perceives that the team isn’t capable of contending for a title, it is likely that “Trader Danny” will be more actively trying to shake up the roster.  Such a shake-up could mean sacrificing a young talent like Bradley or Sullinger.

     

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    Gortat’s salary is just under 8M/year on a deal with 2 years remaining.  Again, the Suns would likely be looking for either Avery Bradley or Jared Sullinger as the centerpiece of a deal with Brandon Bass as part of the package to match salaries.

     


    I like THAT Gortat trade.  Some people give themselves way too much credit around here!

     
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    Re: Trade targets for the C's!

    I would NOT trade AB for Gortat.

    I would give up Sullinger and Lee and tell them to take it or leave it. AB is a stud defender and decent scorer in 2 years Rondo & AB could be the best backcourt in the league.

     

     

     

     
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    Trading for Josh Smith would cost the C's dearly! Gortat probably not so much.

     
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    I would NOT trade AB for Gortat.

    I would give up Sullinger and Lee and tell them to take it or leave it. AB is a stud defender and decent scorer in 2 years Rondo & AB could be the best backcourt in the league.

     

     

     

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    Yes on Sully before AB...

     
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    I would NOT trade AB for Gortat.

    I would give up Sullinger and Lee and tell them to take it or leave it. AB is a stud defender and decent scorer in 2 years Rondo & AB could be the best backcourt in the league.

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    Yes on Sully before AB...

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    Make that 3 votes.  I love Sully but Bradley is more important to our defensive effort because he forces teams out of their offensive sets and takes on their point guard.   He's more valuable than Sully and he's as young as Sully (eg - valuable for the future of the team).

     
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    Make it 4!!

     
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    Make it 5! AB almost put the C's over the top last year! I can't wait to see him healthy again!

     
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    I will not give up Sully - big hard to come by. Bradley's come back is fishy to me. He's been out for sooooo long now -- his injury was a major one, he might not be able to run and guard the way he used to be. Easy to find a guard.      

    The truth, no one here knows Bradley's status - so, why assumed the guy is the same when he comes back? Lot's of player who has major injury & can't continue.  

     
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    We need JO to stay healthy for a few more weeks! It also would not hurt if Melo tears it up in D- League play!

     
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    I would not trade AB or Sully.....seriously...AB is a kid and is already a lock down defender....and Sully (also a kid) has the "it" factor....he can score and rebound and has an incredible basketball IQ......didn't I see 6 offensive rebounds in 19 minutes against Orlando the other night....these kids are keepers....

     
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    What would the Suns do with Sully? The Suns have a lot of undersized PFs, Scola, Morris, Beasley, and PJ Tucker. So Sully to the Suns is unlikely.

    Bradley? Maybe. 

    The Suns will need a Center if they're going to trade Gortat. Right now JO is playing Center, a lot!

    So the player the Suns would really want is Fab Melo!

    Lee, Melo, maybe Collins, and draft picks for Gortat. 

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    This is where the Melo pick pays off...you work him to develop just enough to create value..

    a true seven ftr who can block shots is gold for a rebuilding team...lets hope it goes thru..

     
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    I would NOT trade AB for Gortat.

    I would give up Sullinger and Lee and tell them to take it or leave it. AB is a stud defender and decent scorer in 2 years Rondo & AB could be the best backcourt in the league.

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    Yes on Sully before AB...

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    Make that 3 votes.  I love Sully but Bradley is more important to our defensive effort because he forces teams out of their offensive sets and takes on their point guard.   He's more valuable than Sully and he's as young as Sully (eg - valuable for the future of the team).

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    One big question mark is of course how Avery will come back from serious injury....other than that I'd also keep him over Sully. AB's defending can lift a whole team.

     
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    I'd keep Bradley too, Sully I'd be willing to trade in a deal for J-Smoove. He is the best option to win now and in the future. When KG and Pierce are gone a core of Rondo-Bradley-Smith would be very nice to build around.

     
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    Re: Trade targets for the C's!

    Hi,

    Marcin Gortat, IMO, is the most probable trade. Unless, of course, there's a third team involved. Then, maybe, Josh Smith could be available.

    MG is, IMHO, more valueable: he, among other things, can protect the paint which would allow KG roam without worry about the rim. Celtics dearly miss such a player.

    As for the trading chips, I'd say keep both AB and Sully. They're both young and just started to show how good they are. As other poster suggested - whatever combinations of Lee, Bass, Melo and the picks (MG is young enough to sacrifice a pick).

     

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    the only players we should give up for Gortat is Melo, Joseph,Wilcox or Lee. We have no shot blockers anymore.Gortat does not solve that problem. Stiemsma does.

     

     
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    Re: Trade targets for the C's!

    I don't believe Ainge will trade Bradley or Sully. I think he'll try to trade Green and Lee and maybe draft picks. If he finds the right target. 

     
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