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    Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/8/2012 1:44 PM EST

    Its possible, in the near future, Danny will be able to recycle the Celtic tradition of being highly competitive, in a relatively short amount of time.  At least, he will be able to build around Rondo or the latter will be a very big trading chip.  The Celts will not need to start from scratch and there will be assets (draft choices and big expiring contracts) to hopefully find very good players, soon.  But this year the Championship is the objective.  Go Oldtimers!   
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/8/2012 2:31 PM EST

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    Its possible, in the near future, Danny will be able to recycle the Celtic tradition of being highly competitive, in a relatively short amount of time.  At least, he will be able to build around Rondo or the latter will be a very big trading chip.  The Celts will not need to start from scratch and there will be assets (draft choices and big expiring contracts) to hopefully find very good players, soon.  But this year the Championship is the objective.  Go Oldtimers!   
    Posted by cavaliersfan

    Cavs fans you look at it with the just the right amount of optimism. I am going to try to get my self in that frame of mind. Thanks.
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/8/2012 3:25 PM EST

    I like to look at it that way too, except that those 2 number ones don't look to be all that valuable.  I think they're the Clippers and Celtics picks, which if the draft was based on today's standings, would mean picking 17 and 22nd. 

    Free agents can be hard to get, especially with the new rules (if it comes down to money, the free agent will make more staying with the team he's on). 

    And in looking at this list (http://www.hoopsworld.com/2012-nba-free-agents) I don't see too many free agents that would turn a team around.  Dwight Howard, sure, but he's a longshot.  Then there's Deron Williams who also seems like a longshot (and IMO not a guy to build a team around).  Eric Gordon looks like the best option out there.  The only option really if you're talking about a big-name free agent that you're going to throw a lot of money at.

     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/8/2012 3:37 PM EST

    go get smith...then go get howard. we'll be fine. what you don't wanna do is facilitate some other team's (LA, dallas) ability to go get the guys we want buy making trades that help them free up cap space. or buy trading players (rondo) that make other destinations more desireable. in other words, you wouldn't want to trade rondo, plus some expiring contract to LA so that LA becomes a more likely destination for howard.

     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/8/2012 6:44 PM EST

    Optimism is great. A good GM could probably make something happen with this situation. Unfortunately, the guy pulling the strings is the village idiot - Danny Ainge.
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/8/2012 6:55 PM EST

    In response to "Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts":
    go get smith...then go get howard. we'll be fine. what you don't wanna do is facilitate some other team's (LA, dallas) ability to go get the guys we want buy making trades that help them free up cap space. or buy trading players (rondo) that make other destinations more desireable. in other words, you wouldn't want to trade rondo, plus some expiring contract to LA so that LA becomes a more likely destination for howard. Posted by kaktug
    Smith is very athletic, but not a great player. He doesn't shoot well and takes dumb shots. He doesn't bring the total energy every night. He's an underachiever. I'd rather use the draft choices to trade up or trade a player like JJJ and a draft choice to trade up. If DH is available, I am all for getting him, but if we can't get DH or DWill as a shooting guard, let's hold tight and make the moves in the offseason.
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/9/2012 12:35 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts:
    In response to "Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts": Smith is very athletic, but not a great player. He doesn't shoot well and takes dumb shots. He doesn't bring the total energy every night. He's an underachiever. I'd rather use the draft choices to trade up or trade a player like JJJ and a draft choice to trade up. If DH is available, I am all for getting him, but if we can't get DH or DWill as a shooting guard, let's hold tight and make the moves in the offseason.
    Posted by Celtsfan4life


    If DH isn't traded by the deadline, in all likelihood, NJ would have no choice but to trade DWill on the Ides of March to avoid losing him to FA with nothing in return.

    Then maybe you consider trading Rondo, straight up, for DWill as a means to an end (DH) but that's the only instance I can see right now where you'd want to trade Rondo and exactly why you don't trade him for anyone else until the Ides of March.

    Et tu Brutus!!!
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/9/2012 12:48 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts:
    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts : If DH isn't traded by the deadline, in all likelihood, NJ would have no choice but to trade DWill on the Ides of March to avoid losing him to FA with nothing in return. Then maybe you consider trading Rondo, straight up, for DWill as a means to an end (DH) but that's the only instance I can see right now where you'd want to trade Rondo and exactly why you don't trade him for anyone else until the Ides of March. Et tu Brutus!!!
    Posted by Mployee8


    Popeye always kicked Brutus' a$$! lol

     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/9/2012 1:10 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts:
    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts : Popeye always kicked Brutus' a$$! lol
    Posted by 21st



    You're no Popeye though you do belong in a cartoon ...
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/9/2012 1:29 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts:
    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts : You're no Popeye though you do belong in a cartoon ...
    Posted by Mployee8


    Did Fierce give you another beating? You always can't sleep every time you get your ash kicked here on this board. lol
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/9/2012 1:33 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts:
    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts : Did Fierce give you another beating? You always can't sleep every time you get your ash kicked here on this board. lol
    Posted by MajorMajor


    Fierce can't kick anybody's butt, he's a weanie ... but you do a good job sniffing his crack ... "MajorMajor! Here boy!" ... you're his man!

    http://www.funnyfidos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/funny-dog-cartoon-crack.jpg


     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/9/2012 1:36 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts:
    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts : Fierce can't kick anybody's butt, he's a weanie ... but you do a good job sniffing his crack ... Hat tip to you ... you're his man! http://www.funnyfidos.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/funny-dog-cartoon-crack.jpg
    Posted by Mployee8


    Do you even sleep at all? Every time I'm here early in the morning you're here talking to no one but yourself. Where you from?
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/9/2012 1:39 AM EST


    Syria!
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/9/2012 1:42 AM EST

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    Syria!
    Posted by Mployee8


    You are such a weanie! lol

    GTG

    I have to be on the road in 30 minutes. I hope to run over you sometime when I'm on the road.Laughing
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/9/2012 1:49 AM EST

    Ohhh, i thought you were suggesting TRADING the two first round picks, Rondo and a contract for something good, like Howard
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/9/2012 1:55 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts:
    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts : You are such a weanie! lol GTG I have to be on the road in 30 minutes. I hope to run over you sometime when I'm on the road.
    Posted by MajorMajor


    Watchout for land mines Fierce .... LOL
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/9/2012 2:08 AM EST

    Rondo, Allen, Pierce for Gasol, Ellis, DW Williams Ellis Green Garnett Gasol
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/9/2012 3:16 AM EST

    In Response to Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts:
    Its possible, in the near future, Danny will be able to recycle the Celtic tradition of being highly competitive, in a relatively short amount of time.  At least, he will be able to build around Rondo or the latter will be a very big trading chip.  The Celts will not need to start from scratch and there will be assets (draft choices and big expiring contracts) to hopefully find very good players, soon.  But this year the Championship is the objective.  Go Oldtimers!   
    Posted by cavaliersfan


    Did you serve a mission by any chance???
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/9/2012 3:33 AM EST

    Cavs fan you are a class act. 

    I"m glad your franchise got an exciting young point guard, wishing you guys well in the years to come.
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/9/2012 9:30 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts:
    In response to "Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts": Smith is very athletic, but not a great player. He doesn't shoot well and takes dumb shots. He doesn't bring the total energy every night. He's an underachiever. I'd rather use the draft choices to trade up or trade a player like JJJ and a draft choice to trade up. If DH is available, I am all for getting him, but if we can't get DH or DWill as a shooting guard, let's hold tight and make the moves in the offseason.
    Posted by Celtsfan4life


    you get smith in order to get howard.
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/9/2012 9:32 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts:
    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts : If DH isn't traded by the deadline, in all likelihood, NJ would have no choice but to trade DWill on the Ides of March to avoid losing him to FA with nothing in return. Then maybe you consider trading Rondo, straight up, for DWill as a means to an end (DH) but that's the only instance I can see right now where you'd want to trade Rondo and exactly why you don't trade him for anyone else until the Ides of March. Et tu Brutus!!!
    Posted by Mployee8


    only if DWill would sign an extension. otherwise, he walks on us and we have nothing, no rondo, no DWill.
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/9/2012 9:34 AM EST

    Imagine a team with Rondo, Dwight, and Josh Smith. If it's a close game in the last 2 minutes the opposing team has 3 players they can foul who will surely only make 1 of 2 FTs. Ugh!
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/9/2012 9:56 AM EST

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    Imagine a team with Rondo, Dwight, and Josh Smith. If it's a close game in the last 2 minutes the opposing team has 3 players they can foul who will surely only make 1 of 2 FTs. Ugh!
    Posted by Fiercest34

    You know, you're probably right about that Fiercest.
    But if you were GM and had the opportunity to get Josh Smith and Dwight Howard, I'd bet you'd go for it.
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/9/2012 10:00 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts:
    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts : You know, you're probably right about that Fiercest. But if you were GM and had the opportunity to get Josh Smith and Dwight Howard, I'd bet you'd go for it.
    Posted by breaktime


    I'd go for it but I won't add Rondo to that duo of brick layers.
     

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    Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts

    posted at 3/9/2012 10:06 AM EST

    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts:
    In Response to Re: Two Number Ones, Rondo and Big Expiring Contracts : I'd go for it but I won't add Rondo to that duo of brick layers.
    Posted by Fiercest34

    That's why it would work.