ULTIMATELY LJ>MJ, SPOELSTRA=PHIL JACKSON, WADE<PIPPEN +BILL RUSSELL=JOHN OATES!

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    Re: LJ WILL END UP GREATER THAN MJ, WADE/BOSH =PIPPEN +BILL RUSSELL=JOHN OATES!

    You must be smoking some really good stuff!!!

    How many scoring titles does Lebron have?  How many NBA titles does he have?  I could go on and on...

    Bottom line is that Jordan didn't sign with Magic or Larry Bird, he did it with just Pippen.  Not to say that Pippen wasn't really good.  Magic had 2 super stars, Larry had 2 superstars, Lebron has 2 superstars, and Jordan had 1!  You could argue that Kobe had 1 also! 

    Jordan is all about respect for the game.  Lebron is a joke and he doesn't know %$#^ about respect.  Same with cheapshot Wade.  

    When I think of Lebron I think of a spoiled little kid who was given everything he has wanted.  When I think of Jordan I think of class and when the times got tough he pushed his mind and body for not only his fans but himself to the ultimate goal.  Six times!!!

    You cannot compare, not even close.

    Check back in about 10 years!!!
     
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    This is such a ridiculous argument to have.  They are 2 COMPLETELY different players (therefore it's very tough to compare simply stats), nevermind the fact that Lebron probably has 10 years left in his career.  I look at it like this: 

    -"Does Lebron have the POTENTIAL to be regarded as the best ever?" - my opinion is yes, as much as I hate to say it.  The guy is far more physically gifted than MJ, or than anyone in the history of the game arguably, but you really can't say that he is the best ever as of now.  Anyone that tries to argue that is just a moron, flat out.  With that being said, it remains to be seen if LeBron has the mental makeup (competitive drive, ability to continuously come through in the clutch, etc..) to become the best ever.  If Lebron wins 4+ rings and continues his personal dominance (wins more MVP's, DPOY's, etc.), then when his career is over this argument could possibly be had.  Until then, everyone needs to just STOP desperately trying to label someone as "The next Jordan".
     
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    [QUOTE]I look at it this way. MJ, Bird, Johnson WON Rings by themselves. L. James would never get a ring unless he got help. Which is why he went to Miami to see if he can get his. Just imagine if Bird, MJ, and Johnson got together for 2 maybe 4 years. How many would they win??
    Posted by PAULICAS1975[/QUOTE]i like how all you lackey kool-aid worshipers just keep ignoring the obvious. first of , bron is the CLOSEST in the history of basketball of a guy who took his team to the finals with absolutely ZERO help. not one single all-star or potential hall of famer on that team.. NONE! carlos boozer comes closest. yeah, did we not just see that real dog crap  all over his pants against bron and the heat? the man did it all, won 4 or 5 games during those playoffs all by himself including that one epic game in the finals where he went 1 on 5 and still won for none of his teammates could find the ocean despite repeated attempts. lets just ignore all of that because of a few other incidents clearly caused by intense frustration. god knows kobe has never had one of those like when he refused to take any shots in a key playoff game. give me a break you choir-folllowing phonies. 

    again, its so laughable. mj had no help? ok, apart from the second best john oates in the history of the game (russ was first), i guess he was nothing. as i said, russ was black at the right time in terms of notoriety + public notice (good or bad). perhaps had scottie been white at the right time he would have his props. funny, hall and oates were white at the WRONG time. had they not been , they would be in the hall of fame, critics' darlings and so forth. its not racism, just racialism and how it goes sometimes. in fact i would say pippen was a hall and oates TWEENER. he could be hall at stretches and was hall for a while and led his team FURTHER than jordan ever did without him. chew on those apples you lap dogs! 

    jordan also had rodman, horace grant, phil jackson, the chief, amongst the greatest catch and pop 3-point guys in history in steve kerrr and john paxon (no complaints there about guys not hitting shots when the ball was passed to them even in the clutch), BJ armstrong (one point was viewed as a stud before injuries), ron harper (remeber him lackeys, was an all-star in this league, had enough left to win more rings in LA), toni kukoc (a boshlike mega talent, could dribble and play the point-forward as well, often led the second unit when pip and jordan were on the bench even in very key games). on and on. apart from them, mj had no HELP! anyone remember the JORDAN RULES? oh yep, superstar call started with michael. may as well say bron is receiving the jordan rules treatment or jordan calls as kobe also did. bron doesnt have to foul which is y he is so dominating.

    for the 500th time, with magic.. he met in-his-prime kareem there (perhaps the BEST player in the league at the time).gee imagine if bron had inherited in-his prime shaq, tim duncan or dwight howard when he got there? u dont think he wins rings esp when able to lead a parade of true scrubs to the finals by his 3rd year? magic also inherited jamaal wiles, norm nixon and michael cooper. later got less in-his-prime but still balling guys in bob mcadoo +michael thompson. vlade divac was a scrub? he's the kareem of serbia for christ sakes (slight joke, but was very steady). james worthy was a slouch, byron scott (the paxon/kerr of his day). u give bron any 3 of those guys and he may have 4 rings by now!

    facts are facts. get your thick heads out of your sand dunes and castles! too easy for me to kick your a-s-s! watch bron should off to the world tonight y its a new era.

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: LJ WILL END UP GREATER THAN MJ, WADE/BOSH =PIPPEN +BILL RUSSELL=JOHN OATES! : Best post I have ever read on these forums. LBJ may yet prove us wrong, but until a few impressive performances this postseason he has merely shown what extraordinary talent looks like when mixed with a complete lack of that je ne sais quoi that motivated Jordan, Bird, Magic, Russell, and precious few others. I would love to see a well-researched video comparison of LBJ's sweetheart ref treatment versus any star from pre-Jordan era.
    Posted by CaptainMugford[/QUOTE]never heard of the JORDAN RULES?
     
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    I have yet to witness Lebron or MJ score 81 points in a game, and how many rings does Lebron have?

    Laughing
     
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    [QUOTE]Communist....why did you name "the chief" in the list of players mj had to help him win.   " jordan also had rodman, horace grant, phil jackson, the chief, amongst the greatest catch and pop 3-point guys in history in steve kerrr and john paxon" and i think you meant derrick rose as someone who came the closest by only having carlos boozer as the next best "star".  It sounds like you thought LJ played with boozer.  "like how all you lackey kool-aid worshipers just keep ignoring the obvious. first of , bron is the CLOSEST in the history of basketball of a guy who took his team to the finals with absolutely ZERO help. not one single all-star or potential hall of famer on that team.. NONE! carlos boozer comes closest. "
    Posted by Sev133[/QUOTE]
    She`s making it up as she goes along. The Chief played about as much with Jordan as Shaq played in this year`s playoffs. He was picking out his rocking chair.For a so-called Celtic fan and self-professed student of the game she sure doesn`t know much about Russell or Parish. Got to admire her persistence though. She keeps throwing krap against the wall,hoping some of it will stick, I guess.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to LBJ MAY END UP NEARLY AS GOOD AS WADE; BOSH PIPPEN; I WISH I HAD BEEN ALIVE TO SEE BILL RUSSELL PLAY : never heard of the JORDAN RULES?
    Posted by COMMUNIST-CONTRARIAN[/QUOTE]

    Jordan never used HGH like creamer in Milk. What are you going to say when Dallas wins??? Not enough HGH????


     
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    [QUOTE]Communist....why did you name "the chief" in the list of players mj had to help him win.   " jordan also had rodman, horace grant, phil jackson, the chief, amongst the greatest catch and pop 3-point guys in history in steve kerrr and john paxon" and i think you meant derrick rose as someone who came the closest by only having carlos boozer as the next best "star".  It sounds like you thought LJ played with boozer.  "like how all you lackey kool-aid worshipers just keep ignoring the obvious. first of , bron is the CLOSEST in the history of basketball of a guy who took his team to the finals with absolutely ZERO help. not one single all-star or potential hall of famer on that team.. NONE! carlos boozer comes closest. "
    Posted by Sev133[/QUOTE]http://bleacherreport.com/articles/704436-lebron-james-what-couldve-happened-if-carlos-boozer-never-left-cleveland

    i appreciate your syle of communication. we are just having a sports debate not talking life or death here. but yep, in spite of the kool-aid propaganda by some to this thread, bron did play ONE YEAR with carlos boozer in cleveland, his first! i was mistaken in writing that boozer was around when lj put all those scrubs on his back and took them to the finals. its even more impressive for there wasnt even ONE memorable player outside of bron on that entire squad. big z , debbie "boobie" gibson? oh please!

    and yes, the chief wrapped up his career in chicago with one last ring in 1996 when the bulls won 69 games bn! again, the kool-aiders just ignore all the facts that do not match up with their loud obnoxious feelings! 

     
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    Re: LJ WILL END UP GREATER THAN MJ, WADE/BOSH =PIPPEN +BILL RUSSELL=JOHN OATES!

    The answer to the question, "who is/was the better NBA player MJ or LJ," is simple. All you have to do is ask and answer (objectively) one additional question. 

    Question: Did MJ make any of his team mates better players, through his play? Answer: Yes, Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, BJ Armstrong, etc. 

    Question: Does LJ make any of his team mates better players, through his play? Answer: Maybe, not close to the improvement as the players identified above.   

    MJ is the best player the NBA has seen to date. Case closed!

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: LJ WILL END UP GREATER THAN MJ, WADE/BOSH =PIPPEN +BILL RUSSELL=JOHN OATES! : She`s making it up as she goes along. The Chief played about as much with Jordan as Shaq played in this year`s playoffs. He was picking out his rocking chair.For a so-called Celtic fan and self-professed student of the game she sure doesn`t know much about Russell or Parish. Got to admire her persistence though. She keeps throwing krap against the wall,hoping some of it will stick, I guess.
    Posted by jrleftfoot[/QUOTE]ok genius, how do you ignore that bron went to the finals with ZERO help and mj couldnt even get to the conference finals pre-pippen with much more help! go look at the roster of guys he was playing as compared to lj. think about this, in 1986 after breaking his leg with about 70 games left in the regular season, mj's team was still good enough with its supporting cast to make the freakin playoffs! you think for one sec, if lebron had been hurt at any time in his cleveland career for any length of time that his team would be sniffing the playoffs?

    look at this year. its pretty much the EXACT team from the past few years minus bron, yet they are a high lottery team! what does that tell ya genius? again, sticking to the comparison, in his first year with decent help, bron returns to the finals likely to win his first ring and finals mvp, mj with a far SUPERIOR supporting cast still took a while AFTER pippen got to chicago before finally getting over the hump. what does that tell ya? lj would have been winning rings in cleveland had they drafted a pippen at any point. case closed!

     
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    DOnt waste your time on this thread anymore, its feeding the attention deprived kid. Never before have I seen a series of posts so ridiculous than from the creator of this thread.
     
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    [QUOTE]DOnt waste your time on this thread anymore, its feeding the attention deprived kid. Never before have I seen a series of posts so ridiculous than from the creator of this thread.
    Posted by Karllost[/QUOTE]karllost, i'm so sorry for being such a deprived, ridiculous attention-seeking who-re, i mean my views are so off-base without any merit. y would any one with any intelligence, esp an immaculate sports or basketball fan such as yourself, ever want to swallow my strong vodka when they can absorb your weak bandwagoning kool-aid. its one thing to personally hate a man for whatever reason, allowing such bias and hatred to totally rape one of any objectivity or logical review of FACTS is just tragic, sad and almost comical. 

    the fact that the MAVS won last night and totally dominated the heat as they move on to a predicted sweep and lebron absolutely choked esp in the clutch just proves you (and your kind) are the ayatollah(s) of basketballah. lebron has proven very clearly that he will be a penny hardaway at best or even a nick anderson (remember him?), definitely not even ever close to the great mj. what do i know... i know nothing, my opinions are worthless.  i shall return to my mom's basement. why would anyone want to exchange with a worthless who-re like me? only the always-right and articulate karllosts should own this board. 

    unless someone wants to engage like a sev133, i'm done with this thread. some threads like this one are started to provoke thought and engagement not for attention. if that were the case, i would only get with the choir and endlessly continue threads like CELTICS GREAT AS MIAMI +EVERYONE ELSE SUCKS, FIRE DOC +AINGE +TURN EVERYTHING OVER TO PHIL JACKSON, THANK YOU BIG THREE FOR THE MEMORIES. sometimes thats fine when i feel it but there are enough of those. y go where others already are. i'm contrarian for i like to go where everyone isnt for it makes for a stimulating board. 

     
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    Re: LJ WILL END UP GREATER THAN MJ, WADE/BOSH =PIPPEN +BILL RUSSELL=JOHN OATES!

    Both Lebron and MJ have played by their own set of rules that mere NBA mortals do not.

    MJ was allowed the phantom call, a staple of his everyday play, and Lebron is allowed to play running back while going to the hoop.

    Neither deserves the credit or accolades that earlier player should get.

     
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    Posted by COMMUNIST-CONTRARIAN[/QUOTE]


    That's why I specifically said the PRE-Jordan era. I was young back then but I don't remember the 80s stars getting quite that treatment. And I don't remember so much whining to the refs back then either. Lebron literally convened a conference with the refs to whine every time he got called for a foul last night. He is freakishly good, but he's so irritating to watch...
     
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    [QUOTE]i have joined the bron bandwagon. the man is a beast. i watched mr. jordan from his very first game at unc (i was living in nc at the time), all through his peak at the bulls and even through his years with the mighty wizards. i believe mr. bron purely on skillset is now SUPERIOR to jordan! this is not to say that he is the better player. to achieve that status, mr. james will have to actually compete in the rings arena and pick up a few finals mvps along the way. kobe clearly will ne surpassed by the time bron is done with his career. may even be a joke for someone to compare the 2. would be like someone comparing dr. j with jordan. let me break it down for you esp in comparing lj at this point in the season to mj when he finally broke through for his first ring (focusing in their 7th year): clutchitude. MJ. small lead. the one area where jordan overwhelmingly had the edge. for most of this year bron was the pippen whereas wade assumed the role of mr. #2 pippen. from the celts series, bron has been the man. still going with mike but the gap is now very small. bron just has to shoot his free throws at a better clip to close the gap with the game on the line in the last 2 minutes or so. competitiveness. EVEN. again, esp after the way things ended for bron with our celtics last year, the gap was huge in mj's favor. today, its EVEN! noone has gone thru a year that bron has in terms of outright hatred from the fans and media. some were of his own doing, some werent. but the man has shown the resolve of the ultimate competitor. jordan never had to deal with being this hated or even generally hated. even his opponents all respected and loved him both on and off the court from day one.  defense. BRON. small lead. they have the same body types and basic tools in terms of foot speed and smarts but lj is 2 inches taller and weighs more by default. mj had quicker hands and was better at stealing the ball, bron is better at blocking shots and intimidating all layups even on breakaways just by his mere presence. just last night, i saw at least 5 blown layups caused by lj's presence. guys anticipate the block. bron is able to consistently guards 4 positions and more body types than mj could. lj could guard most centers as well if he had to. for the entire bulls series, bron held rose to a 6% field goal rate when he the man directly guarding him. thats phenomenal. i dont recall jordan ever doing that to an iverson or isiah. bron;s body makes it harder to pass around or shoot over. he can alter shots just by standing there as he did with rose on that final shot. he jumped but you get that point. those 2 inches count.  passing. BRON. not even close. jordan was no slouch. he once averaged 10 assists for the season. but bron is in  a different league. he actually can dominate a game with his passes in a magic johnson kind of way. noone ever said that about mj.  dribbling. EVEN. jordan could handle the rock and had his own versions of the crab-dribbles of lj. neither turned it over for the most part and could withstand the ball pressures of the best guys. REBOUNDING. BRON. not even close. as great as jordan was, again bron is in a different league. he dominates the board even when going at it against the garnetts or power forwards or the paul pierces.  POSITIONAL VERSATILITY. BRON. small lead. jordan could play the point, the 2 and the 3. he mostly played the 2  with pippen at the 3 and played some point towards the end of games or when they needed a big bucket. bron plays the same 3 positions plus the 4.  GAME VARIABILITY. MJ. small lead. bron clearly has more range including in the clutch. i dont remember mj ever taking the shots bron took and made versus the celts or against the bulls in the last 2 games with all the money on the table. lj can increasingly spot up for the 3 as well as shoot it off the dribble with awesome accuracy. mj had all the postup and fadeaway moves. loved to mix it up down low. bron is still evolving. both are great at attacking the hoop but bron gets more fouls off it whereas mj was more finesse in his approach. mj had a better midrange game.  LEADERSHIP. EVEN. again that wasa huge lead to mj as the season started but lj has become his equal in the past weeks and months. he has handled adversity and weathered the storm as a man. he has had the back of his coach and management, never threw anyone under the bus, and accepted responsibility. he has been a total diplomat in blending with bosh and wade and steadily rising up top to the big dog status. mj never really had to deal with anyone challenging his authority or big dog status. it was always his team. in terms of talent and egos, both have had to deal with the relative same level of talent. wasnt always the case for bron but right now his team is almost at the same level as any of the bulls ring teams. again, thats almost. bron has LESS to work with overall. the bulls contrary to myths, were always well-stacked from the coaching position to the depth on the bench. perhaps we should just focus on mj's first ring teamin 1991. mj had an edge for they had gone thru some wars together before finally breaking through. lj has had to do it from scratch in just the first year of the whole band coming together. lj has clearly had a bigger challenge in that cohesive and chemistry area.  OFFENSE. MJ. negligible. jordan clearly is the better free throw shooter so he got more free points. both guys never tire so they are constantly able to bring it. both are peerless in the open court or fast break. mj had more moves but bron has more range and is a foul magnet when he enters the lane. only one guy in the entire league (paul pierce) can come close to matching his body type, foot speed and tenaciousness on defense when guarding him. noone gets more easy points than bron. he is like a mini-shaq in getting his team in the bonus very quickly for even more easy points while making it harder for the other team to maintain its aggression as the game wears on. once he shoots free throws at over 80% and gets more comfortable with his post moves, lj will be mj's equal if not his superior on offense as well.  INTANGIBLES. JAMES. big time. lj is more than 2 years younger with less superstar teams to worry about than was the case with mj. in the east, just the celtics as presently constituted can pose a threat to the bron steamroll going forward. not sold on the knicks, hawks, sixers or bulls. none of them can counter the heat's immense strengths. in the west, the lakers and the memphis grizzlies with their emphasis on big athletic big men and of course kobe amd capable swingmen are the only teams that could stop the heat once they get to the finals. BOTTOM LINE:  assuming lj gets his ring and finals mvp this year, he will be well on his way to at least matching mj's 6 rings and finals mvps. this was supposed to be a warm-up year for the heat. next year they should be far better and cohesive. you will have every top role player wanting to head out to miami not only to play with the far less selfish bron (ask scottie pippen about mj's selfishnesss compared to bron) but to enjoy the tax-free benefits. when its  all said and done, jordan will be joined by lj on the mt. rushmore of nba. the next level down will have the likes of bill russell, chamberlain, hakeem, bird, magic, kareem, tim duncan, oscar robinson, wade, and kobe. at the third level, you will have the karl malones, pipppens, barkleys, isaiahs, garnetts, david robinson, dirk nowitski (as of now)and paul pierces. at the last level, you will have the ray allens, reggie millers, dominiques, bob mcadoos, allen iverson, and joe dumars.
    Posted by COMMUNIST-CONTRARIAN[/QUOTE]
    LeBron has never won a championship, and is not known for being a very clutch player at all. How can you say his intangibles are even close to MJ's? Or that his defense is better? If you put film next to eachother for the first eight years of their career game by game, you'll see on one side a man who continually finds a way lose every year that abandons and embarraseses his original team and city, next to a man continually winning playoff games and series triumphantly no matter what the circumstance. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: LJ WILL END UP GREATER THAN MJ, WADE/BOSH =PIPPEN +BILL RUSSELL=JOHN OATES! : I think your post is ridiculous. Even though I disagree with CC, she is entitled to her opinion. Your post is just a rude personal attack.
    Posted by Kirk6[/QUOTE]

    Kirk, if you respect the opinions of CC, which I happen to find on this particular thread to be assinine and ridiculous, thats fine by me.

    I respect her right to her opinions, I just dont respect the merit of them.

    On the other hand, if she's entitled to her opinion, whats your problem with allowing me  mine?  Sounds hypocritical to me

     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: LJ WILL END UP GREATER THAN MJ, WADE/BOSH =PIPPEN +BILL RUSSELL=JOHN OATES! : Kirk, if you respect the opinions of CC, which I happen to find on this particular thread to be assinine and ridiculous, thats fine by me. I respect her right to her opinions, I just dont respect the merit of them. On the other hand, if she's entitled to her opinion, whats your problem with allowing me  mine?  Sounds hypocritical to me
    Posted by Karllost[/QUOTE]

    Its always best to confine one`s opinions to subjects you know something about.I frankly couldn`t give a flying sh*** if someone thinks player A is better than player B, no matter how silly or uninformed that opinion may be. Sure MJ won 6 titles ,had better stats, always showed up in the clutch, and was the best offensive player,and the best defending guard of his day , but if someone wants to value potential over achievement ,go for it. Where I draw the line is people shovelling bs to make a point, e.g.Robert Parish having anything whatsoever to do with Jordan`s championship run.What the bicyclist had to say about Russell was indefensible.First of all ,she obviously didn`t have a clue as to his role on 11 championship teams.He was the leader on every one of them, not a mere role player.Secondly she called him sis Russell. Really? A black man from Louisianna who had a significant role in the civil rights movement in segregation days,is apparently, in her eyes,less worthy of respect than a self-centered ,self-aggrandizing primadonna, who had the keys to the league handed to him from day one. Frankly ,I`m surprised that more  posters didn`t call her out on for attacking the greatest Celtic of all time.I suppose Russ was a mere role-player on the NCAA champion San Francisco Dons and the gold-medal winning olympic team as well--LOL
     
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    Re: LBJ MAY END UP NEARLY AS GOOD AS WADE; BOSH PIPPEN; I WISH I HAD BEEN ALIVE TO SEE BILL RUSSELL PLAY

    In Response to Re: LBJ MAY END UP NEARLY AS GOOD AS WADE; BOSH PIPPEN; I WISH I HAD BEEN ALIVE TO SEE BILL RUSSELL PLAY:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: LBJ MAY END UP NEARLY AS GOOD AS WADE; BOSH PIPPEN; I WISH I HAD BEEN ALIVE TO SEE BILL RUSSELL PLAY : That's why I specifically said the PRE -Jordan era. I was young back then but I don't remember the 80s stars getting quite that treatment. And I don't remember so much whining to the refs back then either. Lebron literally convened a conference with the refs to whine every time he got called for a foul last night. He is freakishly good, but he's so irritating to watch...
    Posted by CaptainMugford[/QUOTE]

    because back the players didn't believe they were bigger then the world since the age of 4 when mommy started pampering them. lebron has been told he was good since highschool and he is the next big thing. its only natural he is a baby who whines when he doesn't get his way. he is "the next big thing."
     
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    Re: LJ WILL END UP GREATER THAN MJ, WADE/BOSH =PIPPEN +BILL RUSSELL=JOHN OATES!

    In Response to Re: LJ WILL END UP GREATER THAN MJ, WADE/BOSH =PIPPEN +BILL RUSSELL=JOHN OATES!:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: LJ WILL END UP GREATER THAN MJ, WADE/BOSH =PIPPEN +BILL RUSSELL=JOHN OATES! : Its always best to confine one`s opinions to subjects you know something about.I frankly couldn`t give a flying sh*** if someone thinks player A is better than player B, no matter how silly or uninformed that opinion may be. Sure MJ won 6 titles ,had better stats, always showed up in the clutch, and was the best offensive player,and the best defending guard of his day , but if someone wants to value potential over achievement ,go for it. Where I draw the line is people shovelling bs to make a point, e.g.Robert Parish having anything whatsoever to do with Jordan`s championship run.What the bicyclist had to say about Russell was indefensible.First of all ,she obviously didn`t have a clue as to his role on 11 championship teams.He was the leader on every one of them, not a mere role player.Secondly she called him sis Russell. Really? A black man from Louisianna who had a significant role in the civil rights movement in segregation days,is apparently, in her eyes,less worthy of respect than a self-centered ,self-aggrandizing primadonna, who had the keys to the league handed to him from day one. Frankly ,I`m surprised that more  posters didn`t call her out on for attacking the greatest Celtic of all time.I suppose Russ was a mere role-player on the NCAA champion San Francisco Dons and the gold-medal winning olympic team as well--LOL
    Posted by jrleftfoot[/QUOTE]

    Quite possibly some of the other more informed posters on this forum, which some are extremely knowledgable about bball,  saw through the facade of this thread alot quicker than you or I and didnt bother responding lol

    I agree with you 100%.. anyone that claims to be intimate with Russells game from watching video tapes from when he played, then makes light of Russells value and contribution to the Celtic dynasty just cant be taken seriously no matter how much people want to fawn all over the right to opinion.

    It's akin to suggesting Hitler had the impact of a regular soldier in the cause and facilitation of WWII.


     
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