Re: w/o Shaq, nothing is easy. w/o Rondo, it is all mess
posted at 12/21/2010 7:03 PM EST
In Response to Re: w/o Shaq, nothing is easy. w/o Rondo, it is all mess
Uhhmm...I like Sammy Hagar but van Halen clearly wasn't the same without The Dave. Not a good example in my book but some people may disagree..... As for Rondo, i like him a lot and mostly enjoy watching him play but I'm a bit worried about the shooting weaknesses in his game after Pierce, Allen and KG have left. He should become a bit more all-round, clearly, but for this team Rondo is a great fit.
Posted by basketbert
Van Halen still tours... David Lee Roth - is he still alive? Oddly and just as filler.... in their youth Eddie played the drums and Alex was the guitar player and at some point they changed and Eddie claims that he never took formal lessons - one of the most gifted guitarists who essentially brought classical music to metal never took formal lessons - wow.
I used to think that Perk was the player in the league whose actual game and his perception of his game had the greatest disparity - in other words the difference between his actual game and his perception of his game could not even fit in the grand canyon.... recently and more and more I believe Rondo is right there with him. In his SI interview / article he basically said that he is the best point guard in the league - hey Rajon give about a dozen other point guards in the league 4 hall of fame starters and they may average 14 assists also - oh no they wouldn't average 14 assists because occasionally they would shoot the ball instead of passing up layups and by shooting and making wide open uncontested jumpers they would be forgoing assists - oh no wait, they would not be wide open and uncontested because the defender realizes that the guy he is guarding can actually shoot.. if Gilbert Arenas was given the shots Rondo gets he would be the all time leading shooting percentage leader in the history of the league.... Rondo pounds the ball into the floor killing the shot clock causing 3 second violations waiting for someone to get open and then passes the ball and runs and stands in the corner wide open hoping the ball gets shot by the first guy he passes it to so that he gets the assist and the ball never cycles back to him.... it is really funny how often after he passes the ball and the Cs are trying to move the ball and he is obviously not an option and his teammates quickly look at him and realize that passing the ball to him is a mistake and he is calling for the ball - little does he realize that he has wound the clock down too far and that giving the ball back to him is basically a turnover or on a positive note - a rebound opportunity.
I love the "perfect for this team" assessment, it seems to apply to the weakest of the Cs starting 5 and is somehow justified and at the same time a great qualifier..... as if the team would be worse off with better all around / more complete players as if somehow the Cs would be worse off with Derick Rose and Brook Lopez, as if they would be worse off with Baron Davis and Chris Kaman, as if they would be worse off with Devin Harris and Roy Hibbert, etc.
Imagine the Cs having D Howard and Steph Curry as their center and point guard - the posters here would be saying I wish we had a center who was not athletic, could not defend, could not rebound, could not shoot, could not block shots and I wish we had a point guard who could not shoot, not make 3s, not make free throws - we would be so much better off - if we had Perk and Rondo they would be perfect for this team...... think about that - that is what we have when we read over and over and over again about how Perk and Rondo are "perfect for this team" as if having complete players is a mortal sin - well unless of course we have complete players at the other 3 positions um.... which they do.
I guess what I am saying is that they have two very easily replaceable parts and would not be any worse off an in many cases a lot better.....
Somehow with a point guard that can shoot routine jumpers, an occasional 3, and 90% of his freebies and a center that can actually participate as an option in the offense would make the team worse.
I can see KG, Pierce, and Ray sitting around saying I am so glad we have Rondo and Perk not being able to participate in the offense, ensuring that one of us is constantly double teamed and that the opposing defense is allowed to sag into the paint and take away penetration in the half court offense.
KG is thinking to himself I am so glad we have Rondo passing me alley oop passes but then every night when I watch sportscenter I see about 20 other guys in the league getting alley oop passes. How can Blake Griffin possibly be the play of the day without Rondo feeding him alley oops every night? How can Hibbert be putting up numbers that Perkins would kill for every night? How is it even possible that Davis and Bledsoe are giving Griffin 10 alley oops per night without having Rondo there? I thought there were only alley oops when Rondo was involved.
So back to the title of the thread - Shaq at 38 is vastly superior to Perk - but of course what we read over and over and over again is that without Perk there is no chance to even find anyone that could possible replace him but by simply getting injured the Cs were able to get two centers when healthy are both better than Perk..... there are still those that think that Perk would only be a graduate of medical school if he had simply gone to school instead of going to the NBA..... I love the "he would only be a junior in college had he gone to college"... now in year 8 Perk is a journeyman center who has never turned out to be the player that most of the posters here said "give him some time - he would only be a sophomore, junior, senior blah blah blah" had he gone to college as some sort of justification as to the weaknesses and shortcomings in his game. Boy oh boy with Eric Dampier they somehow would not have won a ring 3 years ago? Oh did I say Dampier - Bogut, either Lopez, either Gasol, Howard, Horford, blah blah blah.....
and "with Rondo it is all a mess" ummmmmm, give me Devin Harris and a whole bunch of others with KG, Pierce, Allen, and Shaq and you are absolutely no worse off...let alone it being "it is all a mess"..... and the Cs are no worse off and again in many cases a lot better off and a lot better team......
the "perfect for this team" is an excuse, qualifier, joke, and simply laughable......
keep trying though....