What if the ping pong balls DON'T drop in our favor?

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    What if the ping pong balls DON'T drop in our favor?

    So we tank this season. What if the ping pong balls DON'T drop in our favor? Then what? We have gone down this route twice before.....and FAILED. Both times the team was set back. What then?

     
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    Re: What if the ping pong balls DON'T drop in our favor?

     As long as we are in the top 5 or 6 it may be fine.  Any later than that we are screwed.  DA doesn't have another Paul Pierce sitting on his bench to lure in Ray and KG.  Yes they were trades.  But do you really think KG would have agreed to come here if all we had was a baby Rondo and Ray Allen?

    And we don't have any prospects that are as attractive as Big Al was to trade anyway.

     
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    Re: What if the ping pong balls DON'T drop in our favor?

    If we don't get Wiggins, the world will end.

     

    Seriously though, we can realistically get into the top10. If we get the 10 pick instead of 1, we still can get a solid impact player. Not all superstars are picked 1-3, Rondo and basically all of the Spurs team is testiment to that. 

    If we don't get that transcendent player, we still have two picks in 2015, two in 2016 and two in 2018. The summer of 2015, we will have a large amount of cap space to pull together a new "big 3" through free agent signing and trades with all of our assets. Its no guarentee and although we are not a destination like, LA, our history is second to none, which probably puts us in the top 10 teams where players would want to come play.

     

    We will survive!

     
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    Re: What if the ping pong balls DON'T drop in our favor?

    I wouldn't say those were failures.  We got Billups on Tim Duncan draft and #5 (Jeff Green) on Oden draft that we traded for Ray and arguably the catalyst for KG.  You can't worry about what you cannot control.

     
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    Re: What if the ping pong balls DON'T drop in our favor?

    In response to hops29's comment:

     As long as we are in the top 5 or 6 it may be fine.  Any later than that we are screwed.  DA doesn't have another Paul Pierce sitting on his bench to lure in Ray and KG.  Yes they were trades.  But do you really think KG would have agreed to come here if all we had was a baby Rondo and Ray Allen?

    And we don't have any prospects that are as attractive as Big Al was to trade anyway.



    Agree.  If the Celtics end up having a bad season but not one of the 6 or 7 worst teams in the league they may still not end up with an impact player.  It still is better than ending up as the 7th or 8th seed and not making it out of the 1st round of the playoffs and ending up with a much lower draft pick.   The biggest drawback to purposely losing games is the attendance will suffer and they may also lose season ticket holders. 

     
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    Re: What if the ping pong balls DON'T drop in our favor?

    Wer're in good shape no matter what everyone. If we get in the top 5, there are three of four susperstars in this draft and we get them to go with Rondo, Bradley, Green, Sullinger. Pretty great young core.

    If the ping pong balls don't net us a superstar, we still have 8 number one draft picks over the next five years, along with young talent, like Bradley, Sullinger, Green and Rondo we can package in multiple ways for trading for a superstar.

    Last year Atlanta wanted two number ones for Josh smith and NO ONE Gave it. We have 8 numbers ones in the next five years! That is a lot of assets. Houston for example got Harden this way. 

    Ainge, has set this up so he has multiple routes back. He doesn't just have to keep tanking and hoping over and over. 

     
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    Re: What if the ping pong balls DON'T drop in our favor?

    In response to susan250's comment:

    In response to hops29's comment:

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     As long as we are in the top 5 or 6 it may be fine.  Any later than that we are screwed.  DA doesn't have another Paul Pierce sitting on his bench to lure in Ray and KG.  Yes they were trades.  But do you really think KG would have agreed to come here if all we had was a baby Rondo and Ray Allen?

    And we don't have any prospects that are as attractive as Big Al was to trade anyway.

     



    Agree.  If the Celtics end up having a bad season but not one of the 6 or 7 worst teams in the league they may still not end up with an impact player.  It still is better than ending up as the 7th or 8th seed and not making it out of the 1st round of the playoffs and ending up with a much lower draft pick.   The biggest drawback to purposely losing games is the attendance will suffer and they may also lose season ticket holders. 

     

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    What about the 'integrity of the game'? Remember, we have a LOTTERY because in the past teams would tank to get the worst record and it became obvious and embarrassing. Not to mention the impact it had on the game's biggest 'fans', THE BETTORS!

     
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    Re: What if the ping pong balls DON'T drop in our favor?

    In response to jtkl's comment:

    Wer're in good shape no matter what everyone. If we get in the top 5, there are three of four susperstars in this draft and we get them to go with Rondo, Bradley, Green, Sullinger. Pretty great young core.

    If the ping pong balls don't net us a superstar, we still have 8 number one draft picks over the next five years, along with young talent, like Bradley, Sullinger, Green and Rondo we can package in multiple ways for trading for a superstar.

    Last year Atlanta wanted two number ones for Josh smith and NO ONE Gave it. We have 8 numbers ones in the next five years! That is a lot of assets. Houston for example got Harden this way. 

    Ainge, has set this up so he has multiple routes back. He doesn't just have to keep tanking and hoping over and over. 



    Only problem is Rondo needs to be moved before he is back from his injury or we won't be in the lottery.

     
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    Re: What if the ping pong balls DON'T drop in our favor?

    I would think the current conditions and all factors are taken into account when making odds/lines by bookmakers including the so called "tanking" mentality of the teams.

     
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    Forget Wiggins! The lottery is rigged so we can't have it! This league hates the Celtics! Time to stop dreaming!

     
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    Re: What if the ping pong balls DON'T drop in our favor?

    You try again in 2015!! 

    Boston is a great city.  Cap space is everything with the new bargaining agreement.  Danny will have to get rid of all our bad contracts in the next two seasons. 

    If that means going after the Kevin Love, or Lamarcus Alridge in 2 seasons, that is another way to go. 

    Ainge is a good drafter, and the Celtics should put thier money into college and international scouting for the next 2 seasons. 

     

     
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    Re: What if the ping pong balls DON'T drop in our favor?

    In response to hops29's comment:

    In response to jtkl's comment:

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    Wer're in good shape no matter what everyone. If we get in the top 5, there are three of four susperstars in this draft and we get them to go with Rondo, Bradley, Green, Sullinger. Pretty great young core.

    If the ping pong balls don't net us a superstar, we still have 8 number one draft picks over the next five years, along with young talent, like Bradley, Sullinger, Green and Rondo we can package in multiple ways for trading for a superstar.

    Last year Atlanta wanted two number ones for Josh smith and NO ONE Gave it. We have 8 numbers ones in the next five years! That is a lot of assets. Houston for example got Harden this way. 

    Ainge, has set this up so he has multiple routes back. He doesn't just have to keep tanking and hoping over and over. 

     



    Only problem is Rondo needs to be moved before he is back from his injury or we won't be in the lottery.

     

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    Depends on when he gets back. Kinda like David Robinson setting out the season for the spurs the year they got Duncan. 

    If they hold him out until Say December, and say let Crawford play the point. They could lose a lot of games. 

    Either way, you can't trade him until he shows he's still Rondo, or you get 50 cents on the dollar. 

     
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    Re: What if the ping pong balls DON'T drop in our favor?

    Even if they do get the top pick...Shabazz (who still may be a good player) was supposed to be a can't miss star this time last year.

     
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    Re: What if the ping pong balls DON'T drop in our favor?

    Then they'll still get their young players valuable experience.

     
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    Re: What if the ping pong balls DON'T drop in our favor?


    As stated in another thread. Maybe they will surprise you as have the RS this year. Maybe it won't be as bad as what many already think?????

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Love the Red Sox, Bs, Cs, Pats and enjoy the ride every year.

     

     

     

     

     

     
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    Re: What if the ping pong balls DON'T drop in our favor?

    In response to Fierce34's comment:

    If the Celts don't get lucky with the ping pong balls?

    This rebuilding process could take 10 years or more.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about just making the playoffs, making the playoffs is easy. Getting to the Finals is what I'm talking about.

    Remember 1994-95 when the Celts made the playoffs with Dino Radja and a 35-year old Dominique Wilkins?

    We don't want that.


    Danny did it once and now has many assets, which are building.  You cannot say that he will not do it again.  Odds are against it but Danny has taken assets we were going to lose and turned them into value that can be traded.

     
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    Re: What if the ping pong balls DON'T drop in our favor?

    In response to hops29's comment:

     As long as we are in the top 5 or 6 it may be fine.  Any later than that we are screwed.  DA doesn't have another Paul Pierce sitting on his bench to lure in Ray and KG.  Yes they were trades.  But do you really think KG would have agreed to come here if all we had was a baby Rondo and Ray Allen?

    And we don't have any prospects that are as attractive as Big Al was to trade anyway.



    Rondo and Green are not as good as big Al?  We have many assets.

     
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    Re: What if the ping pong balls DON'T drop in our favor?

    Only problem is Rondo needs to be moved before he is back from his injury or we won't be in the lottery.


    I started another thread on this subject and hardly anyone seemed to agree with us about how competitive this Celtics team would be with a healthy Rondo. I'm sorry, a team with Rondo, Green, Sullinger, Bradley, Humphries, Wallace, Bass, Brooks, and Crawford is a #6-8 seed, especially if Stevens coaches as advertised. The Celtics need to unload more talent, or risk an eternity of one and done playoff appearances.

     

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