Re: What really set the Celtics back in the 1990's
posted at 2/18/2014 11:43 PM EST
In response to mellymel2's comment:
In response to rameakap's comment:
If an outsider asked you in 2006 Fiercy who was to blame for the Celtics fall from 2002 Eastern Conference Finals team to '06 lottery team.... what would you say?
Would you say "Oh this new GM Danny Ainge doesn't know what he's doing. He traded Antoine Walker away for a bad contract and drafted a couple a couple high school big men to put beside Paul Pierce."
Or would you say "Our new GM has his hands tied but I bet he will be making moves in the next year or two. It was Chris Wallace the old GM who messed things up. He traded Joe Johnson for two veteran role players who are gone now, he drafted Joseph Forte over Tony Parker when many in the front office wanted Tony bad. That same draft he could have rolled the pick used on bust Kederick Brown into 2002 where it would have been Nene or Amare Stoudamire. He traded Kenny Anderson, a capable and fairly cheap veteran, for the bloated contract of an alcholic the team released and needed t use the amnesty clause on. Finally, going back to Joe Johnson, Wallace threw our own 1st round pick into that trade for good measure, giving up on Tayshaun Prince, Carlos Boozer, Nenad Krstic and John Salmons who were 4 of the next 12 picks."
I'm guessing you wouldn't blame Ainge right?
That is why I don't blame Dave Gavitt for why it was so hard to rebuild in the 1990's. It starts and ends with Red's mistakes in 1989.
Absolutely correct, especially that atrocious selection of Forte, as a favor to his old backup Center Thompson, the coach at Georgetown, instead of Parker...oh yeah, that worked out well!
Forte was a Tar Heel and actually (poor guy can't catch a break) RED was a major influence on them drafting him. He really liked the kid for some reason (but was 84 years old).
Thanks for the compliment.
Gavitt being demoted and fired in1994 b/c he took Red's East Finals team in '88, watched it be turned it into a 1st round/lotto team, and then suggested tanking (only to see them sign Dominique) would have been like Ainge being fired in 2006 or 2007 before his plan came to fruition b/c Wyc was desperate for a 'name' player and used all their cap space on Allen Iverson.