What set us back in the 1990s

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    Re: What set us back in the 1990s

    In response to Fiercy's comment:

    When Bird retired, the Celts tried to keep making the playoffs.

    Celtics management also didn't try to get anything for McHale or Parish via trade.

    Instead of rebuilding immediately, the Celtics signed guys like Xavier McDaniel and a 35-year old Dominique Wilkins.

    The Celtics wasted 3 years by signing those players.

    Eventually the Celts hit rock bottom in 1997.

     

    Danny Ainge is doing the right thing by doing the opposite of what the Celtics management in the 1990s did.

    Being a middle of the pack team or an 8th seed is worse than being a lottery team.

     

    That's why I don't think it makes sense if the Celts don't get rid of Hump and Bass on or before the trade deadline.

    Keeping both Hump and Bass, or just one of them, will make the Celts a better team, but better is not good at this stage of the rebuilding process.

     

    Every time the Celts play a team like the Spurs or Pacers the Celtics get exposed.

    The Celts just don't have the star power, shooters, and a quality Center.

    Guys like Spencer Hawes, Evan Turner, Larry Sanders, and Gordon Hayward will not put the Celts on the same level with the elite teams of the NBA today.

     

    The Celts are going to be a lottery team this season and next season.

    It's reality.




    Well at least you aren't squalling about racism setting us back, making elite FAs difficult to sign.

    Thats your typical explanation for hard times in Beantown.

    Pud

     
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    Re: What set us back in the 1990s

    Did Captain Obvious just finish reading a book called 'The History of the Boston Celtics' and decided now was the team he needed to repeat the things multiple people have discussed MANY times here in the past 7 years?

    I mean we know the guy wasn't old enough to remember the end of the big 3 era and didn't actually start WATCHING basketball until around the time Pierce was drafted and the Lakers three peated... but c'mon.

     

     
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    Re: What set us back in the 1990s

    Coming Tomorrow: 'What set us back in the 1980s'

    Thread about the death of Len Bias or Bird/McHale injuries as Fierce reads more of his history book

    I guess when your life is so empty you need to make 1800 posts in 5 weeks on the internet you eventually just start to post the obvious.

    Fierce tell us more about the new CBA and how a team can sign another teams free agents for five years and why a sign and trade from the Celtics this summer isn't good for Humphries...18-2:-)

     

     

     
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    Re: What set us back in the 1990s

    In response to Fiercy's comment:

    When Bird retired, the Celts tried to keep making the playoffs.

    Celtics management also didn't try to get anything for McHale or Parish via trade.

    Instead of rebuilding immediately, the Celtics signed guys like Xavier McDaniel and a 35-year old Dominique Wilkins.

    The Celtics wasted 3 years by signing those players.

    Eventually the Celts hit rock bottom in 1997.

     

    Danny Ainge is doing the right thing by doing the opposite of what the Celtics management in the 1990s did.

    Being a middle of the pack team or an 8th seed is worse than being a lottery team.

     

    That's why I don't think it makes sense if the Celts don't get rid of Hump and Bass on or before the trade deadline.

    Keeping both Hump and Bass, or just one of them, will make the Celts a better team, but better is not good at this stage of the rebuilding process.

     

    Every time the Celts play a team like the Spurs or Pacers the Celtics get exposed.

    The Celts just don't have the star power, shooters, and a quality Center.

    Guys like Spencer Hawes, Evan Turner, Larry Sanders, and Gordon Hayward will not put the Celts on the same level with the elite teams of the NBA today.

     

    The Celts are going to be a lottery team this season and next season.

    It's reality.


    The celtics are 2 players away to become a contender.They need a center and a good wing shooter.They are better than lots of so called fans think.

     

     
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    Re: What set us back in the 1990s

    Seems to me in the 90s, it was all about those handful of players that you needed as foundation to win.  Who won in the 90s?  Jordan's Bulls, Olajuwon's Rockets, and Duncan's Spurs.  We tried very hard to get Duncan but it was not to be.  It did not matter who we were able to bring in, it would have been very difficult to beat those guys.

     
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    Re: What set us back in the 1990s

    In response to debrit's comment:

    In response to Fiercy's comment:

    When Bird retired, the Celts tried to keep making the playoffs.

    Celtics management also didn't try to get anything for McHale or Parish via trade.

    Instead of rebuilding immediately, the Celtics signed guys like Xavier McDaniel and a 35-year old Dominique Wilkins.

    The Celtics wasted 3 years by signing those players.

    Eventually the Celts hit rock bottom in 1997.

     

    Danny Ainge is doing the right thing by doing the opposite of what the Celtics management in the 1990s did.

    Being a middle of the pack team or an 8th seed is worse than being a lottery team.

     

    That's why I don't think it makes sense if the Celts don't get rid of Hump and Bass on or before the trade deadline.

    Keeping both Hump and Bass, or just one of them, will make the Celts a better team, but better is not good at this stage of the rebuilding process.

     

    Every time the Celts play a team like the Spurs or Pacers the Celtics get exposed.

    The Celts just don't have the star power, shooters, and a quality Center.

    Guys like Spencer Hawes, Evan Turner, Larry Sanders, and Gordon Hayward will not put the Celts on the same level with the elite teams of the NBA today.

     

    The Celts are going to be a lottery team this season and next season.

    It's reality.


    The celtics are 2 players away to become a contender.They need a center and a good wing shooter.They are better than lots of so called fans think.

     




    Agreed.... Hibbert and LBJ and any three current Cs starters (plus current "bench") would make us contenders immediately.

    Lets make it happen... so called fans!

    Pud

     
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    Re: What set us back in the 1990s

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    The celtics are 2 players away to become a contender.They need a center and a good wing shooter.They are better than lots of so called fans think.

     



    That could be said about several other teams too. 

    I keep keep saying the new league rules make it very difficult to acquire those assets and then pay the players when they want raises.

    One key to signing free agents is being under the cap. The other is having players and being good enough to want free agents to come to your team. 

    Easier said then done. 

     
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    Re: What set us back in the 1990s

    What I hate with the new rules is that it encourages good players to reach unrestricted FA, then all the teams that have cap room are almost at equal footing to get the player.  If I read the rules correctly, the team with Bird's right only get one advantage in extra year extension, 5 instead of 4.

     
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    Re: What set us back in the 1990s

    In response to Fiercy's comment:

    When Bird retired, the Celts tried to keep making the playoffs.

    Celtics management also didn't try to get anything for McHale or Parish via trade.

    Instead of rebuilding immediately, the Celtics signed guys like Xavier McDaniel and a 35-year old Dominique Wilkins.

    The Celtics wasted 3 years by signing those players.

    Eventually the Celts hit rock bottom in 1997.

     

    Danny Ainge is doing the right thing by doing the opposite of what the Celtics management in the 1990s did.

    Being a middle of the pack team or an 8th seed is worse than being a lottery team.

     

    That's why I don't think it makes sense if the Celts don't get rid of Hump and Bass on or before the trade deadline.

    Keeping both Hump and Bass, or just one of them, will make the Celts a better team, but better is not good at this stage of the rebuilding process.

     

    Every time the Celts play a team like the Spurs or Pacers the Celtics get exposed.

    The Celts just don't have the star power, shooters, and a quality Center.

    Guys like Spencer Hawes, Evan Turner, Larry Sanders, and Gordon Hayward will not put the Celts on the same level with the elite teams of the NBA today.

     

    The Celts are going to be a lottery team this season and next season.

    It's reality.



    I agree with your premise , until the last sentence.....the Celtics WILL NOT be a lottery team next season.

    Ainge will churn the bottom half of the roster before the deadline , add a couple more core players plus assets , then on Draft Night , Ainge will spend whatever assets he has to get two of the top ten players in the draft.....meaning the Celtics will make the playoffs next season, the rebuild will essentially be complete on Draft Night 2014

    I think Fiercy needs to open the windows and get a bit of fresh air.....too much pessimism and negativity ! I call it the New England Curse.....

     
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