What to do with Avery Bradley

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    What to do with Avery Bradley

    He as we all know is never going to be a point guard. At 6' 1" or 2" he in my opinion is not tall enough, nor is he a good enough shooter to be a starting 2 guard. So do we keep him as a defensive specialist, or do we trade him now when his trade value is probably as high as it is ever going to be. If we keep Rondo, we will need a taller good shooting guard to play off him. Having a very good to great 2 guard is as important in building a team as it gets, in todays NBA. So if i were Danny i would dangle AB and see what he could get for him. If Ainge makes a couple of right moves we are not that far from being a contending team in a lot less time than most people think.  Rondo, Green, KO and Sully add a top 5 draft pick next year, and land that star shooting guard by trade or free agency or through the draft and we are well on our way to contending for # 18.

     
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    He plays bigger at times than he is, but unless his offence picks up a lot , he will have a hard time being a starter for the Celts.  He gives Rondo a break on defense by guarding the point but Rondo must have a two that he can guard.  Is an interesting problem  and I am interested in seeing how others think it might work.  Good post.

     
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    I hope Danny/Stevens keep trying to develop his PG skills.  Its not like you can just throw someone unexpectedly into a new position, especially PG, and expect great results.  I think he has the athleticism, awareness and tools.  He needs practice and confidence.   

     
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    I hope Danny/Stevens keep trying to develop his PG skills.  Its not like you can just throw someone unexpectedly into a new position, especially PG, and expect great results.  I think he has the athleticism, awareness and tools.  He needs practice and confidence.   

      I don't think it will take Stevens long to find out AB doesn't have many pure point guard skills. I would like to be wrong, but i just don't see Bradley ever being able to control the game fron the point. 


     
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    In response to maryngary's comment:

    He plays bigger at times than he is, but unless his offence picks up a lot , he will have a hard time being a starter for the Celts.  He gives Rondo a break on defense by guarding the point but Rondo must have a two that he can guard.  Is an interesting problem  and I am interested in seeing how others think it might work.  Good post.

    Agree, he does play bigger at times, and there are times he can change a game with his defense. I also believe he is capable of putting up between 10 and 15 points per game, if he just learns to finish at the rim a little better. His corner 3 is not that bad at all and will probably get better. Like Fierce said, i like him a lot better coming off the bench.


     
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    AB FINALLY gets to work on his game during the off season (no injuries / rehab)! Let's see how his jumper and ball handling skills look in October! 

    Good locker room guy, hard worker, gutsy player! 

     
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    I don't think it will take Stevens long to find out AB doesn't have many pure point guard skills. I would like to be wrong, but i just don't see Bradley ever being able to control the game fron the point.  

     

     

    Avery Bradley can be a better version of Randy Brown.

    Randy on defense, i'm still hoping to see a little Vinnie Johnson in his offensive game. He has the ability to have a good mid range game, and once he learns to finish at the rim, the confidence in his scoring should pick up.


     
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    I don't think it will take Stevens long to find out AB doesn't have many pure point guard skills. I would like to be wrong, but i just don't see Bradley ever being able to control the game fron the point.  

     

     

    Avery Bradley can be a better version of Randy Brown.



    that's pretty good..but brown was a better shooter..

     
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    In response to BCSP's comment:

    AB FINALLY gets to work on his game during the off season (no injuries / rehab)! Let's see how his jumper and ball handling skills look in October! 

    Good locker room guy, hard worker, gutsy player! 

    Good point, i hope he has a break out year.


     
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    Re: What to do with Avery Bradley

    Boston Celtics Summer Camp Part 11: Avery Bradley  

    August 10th, 2013 at 2:29 PM 

    By Sean Melia

     

    Avery Bradley, a player that Boston Celtics fans have talked themselves into for the past two seasons, is finally healthy and ready for a full season of basketball. Bradley has never played a full season, last year he returned for the last 50 games. His strength is on the defensive end of the court. Per Synergy Sports, he ranked 16th in points per possession last season. He's a lockdown defender, who harasses his opponent on the entire court. 

    'Avery Bradley and Jordan Crawford' photo (c) 2011, Keith Allison - license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/

    Bradley will have a much larger load to carry this season. With Rajon Rondopossibly missing some time at the start of the year due to his knee injury, Bradley could play a lot of point guard. His ball handling skills leave something to be desired, along with his ability to spread the floor as a shooter when charged with the job of playing shooting guard. 

    Bradley only shot 32% on three pointers last year, way down from 40% in his 2011-12 season. A look at his shot chart will give an idea of how poor a shooter Bradley is. The red sections represent areas where Bradley shot under the league average. This is not a good thing, there's a lot of red on here. Even at the rim, where Bradley took 2.7 shots per game, he struggled (hoopdata.com).

    Bradley is at his most dangerous when he is able to cut to the basket, he's quick, and when paired with Rondo (which has been very rare after their injuries) they are very effective. However, when you consider Rondo's difficulty shooting along with Bradley's it becomes clear that Bradley has to be better from the perimeter.

    Bradley defenders will claim that he was not 100% last year, a fair argument. He had surgery on both shoulders, clearly that will effect his shooting. His numbers in 2011-12 were better, and hopefully Bradley can use this summer to get healthy and find his jump shot again. 

    During the Knicks playoffs series last May Bradley allowed Ray Felton to dominate the flow of the entire series. In the last few games, especially game six (during the huge near comeback), he realized could rattle Felton.

    Bradley might have been tired and worn out, but he'll need to be an elite defender and a serviceable shooter to guarantee his playing time this year.Courtney Lee is a solid defender too, and a a much better shooter. That could be a big competition within the team once Rondo is healthy. 

    Here's hoping Bradley's shoulders are ready to carry a bigger load. 9.2 points per game will not cut it, he'll have to get it up 12 points. He's always going to score 4-6 points off of turnovers. A few threes a game mixed in, or a couple easy lay-ups off Rondo passes will make him a more dangerous scorer. The Celtics will need it they want to avoid a disappointing season. 

     

     
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    I would love to see AB develop a running float-type shot (similar to Rondo's)! 

     

     
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    As long as Bradley doesn't demand a contract like 7-8m per year, he's worth keeping.

    Agree.


     
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    Let him go when his contract runs out.

     
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    Let him go when his contract runs out.



    That's about the worst idea I've seen. Either keep him or trade him, but don't let him walk away. He's a good player. I like him. But he's not a starter. More of a 6th man type. 

     
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    Let him go when his contract runs out.

     



    That's about the worst idea I've seen. Either keep him or trade him, but don't let him walk away. He's a good player. I like him. But he's not a starter. More of a 6th man type. 

     



    +1

     
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    In response to kaktug's comment:

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    Let him go when his contract runs out.

     



    That's about the worst idea I've seen. Either keep him or trade him, but don't let him walk away. He's a good player. I like him. But he's not a starter. More of a 6th man type. 

     



    Then trade him.

     
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    Let him go when his contract runs out.

     

     



    That's about the worst idea I've seen. Either keep him or trade him, but don't let him walk away. He's a good player. I like him. But he's not a starter. More of a 6th man type. 

     

     

     



    Then trade him.

     




    If Bradley improves this year, Danny may have a decent throw-in option to get rid of Wallace.  I doubt it though.

     
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    this is an easy problem- avery should be defensive stopper material / backup 2 until he plays himself into more of a role.  just like before, only except when he's better than the next proverbial ray allen, then let him play immediately.

    this guy had 3 surgeries on 2 shoulders- kind of radical- his shooting may never come back around but i hope it does.

     
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    I don't think it will take Stevens long to find out AB doesn't have many pure point guard skills. I would like to be wrong, but i just don't see Bradley ever being able to control the game fron the point.  

     

     

    Avery Bradley can be a better version of Randy Brown.

     

    Randy on defense, i'm still hoping to see a little Vinnie Johnson in his offensive game. He has the ability to have a good mid range game, and once he learns to finish at the rim, the confidence in his scoring should pick up.



    You must be a very optimistic person.. VJ was maybe the greatest 6th man scorer in nba history... the microwave was one of those guys that was just plain unstoppable.

     

     
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    I cant say much about the limitations of AB at PG... he looked terrible but what sticks in my  mind is how many here (myself included) thought the guy was a complete joke of a player  his first couple years..

    Then he emerged and shocked me, shocked a lot of us. 

    Last year he missed another training camp and didnt do much else in the offseason because of his shoulders.. So the guy deserves a pass imo... Hes shown a ability to shoot well and play tough D... with a full offseason to work and a training camp coming up, hes worth keeping and see how he performs this season..

    I also dont think hes too small to play PG... maybe the one position where height is least important... I also recall quite a few shrimps that played PG pretty well, even our own Tiny..

     
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    I think that when Rondo is back healtht we will see Lee as the starting 2 guard.

     

    with Bradley becoming the third guard, coming of the bench at either spot.

     

    the touble with Rondo and Bradley (as others hvae stated) is neither is a consistant 3point shooter. In todays' NBA you need to have two players on the floor most of the time who can hit the three.

     

    Green has become a very solid 3 point shooter (look up his %) and Lee is the best on the team, IMO.

     

    Green and Lee give us two players who can hit the three and open the floor, once Rondo is back running the team.

     

    Also Lee is a pretty good defender himself and he has a history with Stevens already.

     

     

     

     

     

     
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