Re: Whatever happens...
posted at 5/11/2011 2:42 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Whatever happens...
In Response to Re: Whatever happens... : Oh CC...where to begin... Okay, I'll start with Dwight Howard. Maybe someone forgot to tell you...the NBA, like ALL professional sports, is A BUSINESS. As most of you know, I'm NOT a Kobe fan, and I would love to see him traded for D-Howard. Will that happen?, who knows. But I would like to see it happen. But the Lakers brass will be looking at that. I don't know how you know so much about the Buss family. I read the LA Times and the Daily News on a regular basis and I see the Buss family as a normal family that has normal brother/sister spats...nothing more. Dr. Buss ultimately has the final say in all decisions and he gets input from his children (who he has been grooming to run the Lakers/Business) and Mitch Kupchak. I NEVER believed the Melo trade would ever happen because he wasn't a real need. The Lakers don't make a trade, just to make a trade. They give each potential trade a lot of thought, weighing the pros and cons and come to a logical decison. That doesn't include input from the various NBA team websites, including the Celtics. Just cause YOU people thought it should happen didn't mean it was going to. Vanessa, Chloe and the other Laker wives are insignificant, so I'm not even going to reply to that. None value added. Just cause your team has 5 top draft choices doesn't mean they'll do anything smart with those picks. Need I remind you that you guys have DANNY AINGE as your GM!!...the most INEPT GM in the league!!! And I'm not the only one who believes that. Check your own forum...you have a large contingent on this website who would like to crucify him. And you probably should. He's a poor evaluator of talent. How many of your teams draft picks have "panned out" since he took over? Yeah...I thought so. And do I need to remind you of the Fat Shaq signing? You guys got real value out of that one, didn't you. Ray and KG are CLEARLY on the downside of their careers. Good luck finding some moron GM who'll give you a #1 pick for either. Actually, there is ONE GM who'd do that, but you already OWN him...HAH! I saved the best for last. You said, and I quote..."we have a far more stable GM and ownership group"...I just about busted a gut laughing at that ridiculous statement. I don't believe you even have any fellow C's fans who would back you on that. Let me break this down for you... The Lakers have had TWO owners for most of their time in Los Angeles, Jack Kent Cooke and Dr. Jerry Buss. By my count, the Celtics have had FIFTEEN owners or ownership groups...during the same time frame...FIFTEEN!! To an outside observer, which team would be viewed as "stable"? The C's management is about as stable as Sybil.Posted by Qdaddy
q, i have read a lot of dumb things recently and in my life. but truly this is about DUMBEST and most hilarious homer rambling i have EVER read! do you own a tv? have u heard magic johnson the greatest homer of them all talking objectively about your dire situation? name me one expert who thinks you are in a good situation.. just one? say what you want about danny, our team has far more flexibility than yours. he is the BELICHICK of the NBA! love how you ignore all the deft moves danny made from drafting big al and developing perk , delonte and all the other guys who were valued high enough to be included in the trades that eventually landed this team kg and ray! oh you must have just ignored that? tony allen was a bad pick too right? even this year, teams valued our picks enough to give us a valued #2 for them.
on the shaq thing, what risk was there? there were teams lining up to offer a shaq a vet minimum deal. what was the risk? shaq more than earned his keep during the regular season when we not only won but DOMINATED most of the games in which he was able to play in. you seem to have a short memory. with out shaq, celts are competing for the 6th or 7th seed this year. we have not been able to max out the bonus out of him but he was worth it. even jo at 6.2m for 2 years has been worth it.most teams would have no beef offering him that much if he were a free agent right now. that is the going rate for non-playing scrubs like greg odom (he may actually get $8m). if the $ amounts were opposite or the same u would have a point, as in 6.2M for both shaq and jo). even if 6.2m for shaq and minimum for jo, it still would have worked. bottom line it cost us less than $8M for BOTH. yes, that was a VALUE!
if you want to knock danny for not signing tony allen, u may have a point. but again with a long memory, in retrospect i do not. did you see how great marquis daniels played prior to getting injured? he's about the same age as tony, 2 inches taller and certainly a BETTER overall player who was making the vet minimum for one year. y wouldnt you have taken him over a tony who wanted 2 extra years at about $3m extra per year. for memphis, it was well worth it for they foresaw him becoming a possible starter. y would we do that when he was NEVER going to be a starter here under any circumstances? james posey? his body and game broke down exactly as danny assumed once he got his big deal. danny was willing to go no more than 3 years. posey found a scrub gm to give him a 4 year deal. again, i am not attacking danny for that. is it his fault that baby's game simply crashed? if baby who seemed to be our one sure thing simply played as he did earlier this year and as he had the last 2 years, celts would be at least tied with the heat and folks like you would be back under your ROCK. babay has eaten and slacked his way out of town. oh yep, danny should have give him a multi-year deal too last year right? another great move by danny, baby's long term motivation has always been a potential issue, danny didnt bite. bringing belonte west and wafer in at the vet minimum was a bad deal too?
again, what are u smoking? you can question the 2 year 6M deal he give to nate but he was able to find a gm to take on that deal while giving us an expiring contract in krstic the almost-scrub. and YES, i like most people with brain cells, would give jeff green a multi-year deal if no more than $7m per year. he's a proven commodity at age 24 with no motivational issues. with a full year under his belt in our system, he should be fine. do the lakes have anyone like him on your BENCH? i didnt think so!
the state of our team union is just fine going forward, win or lose. ultimately its all about being competitive and being able to contend for rings. celts clearly were and will be for years to come. heat, if they win, will be the next nba champs. no great shame in that. even if all the guys return next year, celts may not be favored for the ring but they will be contenders again in the likely LAST year of the big 3. and yes, i can think of lots of teams who would gladly offer #1s for both ray and kg if not more by the mid-season deadline if we choose to go that route. injuries and situations happen. with the new cba coming, the lake freak show are in real danger and everyone knows it. have you seen gasol's contract? noone will take it on unless you take on more deadweight. i was hoping he would admit to being distracted or even injured but if he was perfectly healthy and got schooled that badly in both playoff series, y would anyone take the risk? bynum? with that tude he showed, goood luck. kobe is UNTRADEABLE! oh yep, paying luke walton 6m/year and derek the stiff 3.5m and steve freakin blake 4m is simply PRICELESS in its hilarity. name one celtic who is paid to not show up like that? shaq again was a vet minimum guy, no risk!
paul pierce will have more basketball value right now. kobe would only be moved to a team like a New jersey where the focus is not on winning rings but building buzz at this time. good luck getting deron williams to go along with that however. you guys have real issues, far more than the celts. at worse, celts can start seamlessly rebuilding with pierce, green and possibly rondo as the centerpieces as early as 2012 in the belichickian tradition of draft picks. or we could cash those chips in for an aldridge or 2. we will hold all the cards after 2011. we could also conceivably make rondo available as well. jo's 6.2m also come off the books after next year. do the math, while the fakers are drowning in yankee like old man overvalued deals, the celts will be fully liberated from them all. pierce is certainly worth his $15m and could get that right now in the open market. so you're looking at about $40M of cash and hard salary cap $ being freed up as we enter 2012. how many elite teams can say that?
danny did not do this accidently my friend. had perk stayed, we would still be where we are right now with no chance at a jeff green. we arent losing because of a lack of scowling and growling. sometimes losing happens. miami clearly is the more talented and freakish team, nothing danny or any other gm could have done about that. hmmm, how many times did the great fakers beat them this year? oh yep thats ZERO! they beat your buttt TWICE For tje same reasons we are down 1-3 to them. patriots have lost early in the playoffs 3 years in a row, is belichick now a lousy gm or coach (he just unanimously won the coach of the year award). danny has kept us stable and competitive and WILL continue to do so for years to come, ultimately thats all he can control.
as for the buss family, try googling them and you will find tons of articles expounding on their freaky dysfunctions as a family unit.