When your property value hits its high point, you sell.

When you stocks are riding high, you sell

Varejo's market value will never be higher. The missed an opportunity last year to move him unlsess the offers were insufficient. Not so this year.

I don't think they will let this deadline pass without making some kind of deal. They have some good young talent and should have another lottery pick this year. Why not mulitply those picks and get some young talent in return? (Green, Sully,Melo)Especially since Varejo has a history of injuries. He can only help the Cavs stay somewhat competitive, but still lottery bound. He may get injured again, and devalue those bargaining chips. Not sure if Danny should go for this guy, although I love his talent, desire, and production this year. The injury bug, scares the heck out of me. I would rather go for a lesser risk for the Big man position. Gortat, Perk, or Big Al, or (?), makes more sense for the Celts as we would not have to give up as much and may get more in return in the long run. As the article states:

 "Late first-round picks and meager role players aren’t going to get the job done; Varejao is simply far too good and far too useful to be liquidated for filler, no matter how much he might help your favorite team."

 

I heard the Spurs are after him - Leonard, Blair and one other player!

I would do Sully, Lee and a #1. We can't give up JG because then PP has no backup. We'd strengthen one position and weaken another. They don't need Melo.

For the Celtics, the cost of getting Varejao will be too high.

Varejao is not the type of big man the Celts need. He's also not a shot-blocker. The Celts need more.

What the Celts need is someone like Gortat. Someone who scores inside the paint and can block shots.

Sure Varejao solves the rebounding issue. But Varejao gets his points mainly on putbacks and from pick and pops.

 

In response to BirdLewsBias' comment:

Why would they need Sully and Lee when they have Tristan Thompson and Dion Waiters?

The Cavs' weakest link is the SF spot, Alonzo Gee.

If the Celts are going to get Varejao, Jeff Green will surely be involved.

http://nba.si.com/2012/12/04/anderson-varejao-trade-cleveland-cavaliers/?sct=nba_bf1_a7

sorry link did not take the first time...

it would probably take Sully. At this point, based on what ive seen, im not trading Jared Sullinger.

Agreed, the ideas is to get better, not trade away our value players..he fell to us in the draft. and those are hard to come by. We don't need to sell that store just yet..

In response to hedleylamarr's comment:

we can certainly match that...plus picks

In response to Ortiz123's comment:

Just say they would take Sullinger for Varajao.  You mean you would not think that was a great trade.  Do you really think there is a certainty that Sully is as good or will ever be as good in the future? Varajeo is thirty he could come here and we could win a title with KG  here this year and be competitive next year. Take getting a steal in the draft and turning it into Varajao as close to a miracle.

And of course Sully if he stays is a very promising player but consider Varajao is everything we need right now.

In response to Fierce34's comment:

What is wrong with that? That is exactly what we have not got for three years.  

In response to JamezHill24's comment:

The Cavs already have an undersized starting PF in Tristan Thompson. I don't think the Cavs would want to have a starting frontcourt of Sully and Thompson.

If there's one area where the Cavs really an upgrade, it's the SF position, Alonzo Gee.

In response to concord27's comment:

Yes, of course, but Im talking about giving up multiple players(including Sully).

If it was a straight up deal or maybe another player like bass and picks, then different story.

But I'm againts having to give up say Green, Sully,Melo, and or AB, and multiple picks for him when we could get a  Gortat for less.

Varejao has missed a lot of games the last two years...

In response to concord27's comment:

Nothing wrong with that but if the Celts were to improve, they need someone who can score inside. KG, PP, and Terry are main weapons are all perimeter players. The Celts need an inside threat, someone that will command a double team to free up our shooters.

And regarding Sully, it's not a guarantee that if we get Varejao the Celts will win a championship. Varejao is 30 years old. What happens after this season?

Celtic fans have witnessed Billups turn into a Finals MVP and Joe Johnson become an All-Star. You don't trade a player like Sully who's the steal of the 2012 NBA Draft.

The Cavs want a lottery pick and young players for Varejao. What will happen to the Celts' depth if the Celts give away most of their young bench players like AB, Green, and Lee?

Varejao's price is just too high.

Besides, Gortat might not get as many rebounds as Varejao, but he can block shots and score inside. Inside scoring and shot-blocking are two things Varejao doesn't do very well. Even Brandon Bass is a better shot-blocker than Varejao.

And Sully is 20 years old, Varejao 30. That's sacrificing the future.

One thing's for sure, Sully might not become an All-Star, but he's going to have a long NBA career.

In response to BirdLewsBias' comment:

Kris Joseph

In response to Fierce34's comment:

Look we don't have a lottery pick to give.  So we give them what we do have?  If not then we have to get Gortat.  What do we have to give for him?  Bass and what else?  We cannot win this year with Sully our back up for KG. So if not Gortat what?

In response to concord27's comment:

Like I said, Lee, Fab Melo, maybe Collins, and multiple draft picks for Gortat.

If the Celts get Gortat for Lee and Melo, as the main pieces of the trade, there will be no need to trade Bass, Green, or anybody else.

The Cavs will not want Sully because they already have the former #4 pick of the 2011 Draft, Tristan Thompson. Thompson is also an undersized PF.

We might not win with Sully this season, true. But remember, Sully is still 20 years old, that means the Celts will be able to win with Sully in the future.

Varejao is already 30 years old. If the Celts don't win now, even if they get Varejao, then the Celts just sacrificed the next 10 years by trading a 20-year old Sully for a 30-year old Varejao.

Remember the Rodney Rogers and Tony Delk deal for Joe Johnson? 

Sure the Celts fans had a good time in the playoffs of 2002. But what happened after that remarkable 2002 playoff run?

Right now Joe Johnson is still playing at a high level. Where are Delk and Rogers?

In response to Fierce34's comment:

you know what they say right? hindsight is 20/20. Not every "steal of the draft" is going to be a star or even very good in the long run. But I agree and would not give up too much for varejao.

In response to Fierce34's comment:

you know what they say right? hindsight is 20/20. Not every "steal of the draft" is going to be a star or even very good in the long run. But I agree and would not give up too much for varejao.

In response to basketbert's comment:

Hindsight is 20/20, true. But the Celts didn't just do it once, they did it twice! 

First it was Billups for Kenny Anderson. 

Then that Joe Johnson for Delk and Rogers deal.

You just don't trade or give up on a 1st round pick after just half a season. 

I don't have a problem with giving up too much if the player is worth it. The problem is Varejao only solves part of the Celts' problems.

Varejao is not a shot-blocker or an inside threat on offense. If that's the case then he's not the rim protector the Celts need when KG comes out. And a player like Shane Battier can guard Varejao because he's not a low post threat. 

The Celts have 3 urgent needs right now.

1. Inside scoring.

2. Rebounding.

3. Rim protector.

If the Celts can get a big that can provide those 3 needs, the Celts would be an elite team.

In response to BirdLewsBias' comment:

NO to Sully - Period.  You don't trade away a player like him.  Huge mistake that we would be watching for years to come.

Hi,

I agree with Fierce. I'd just put "Rim protector" as #1. Gortat is a perfect candidate.

Also, agree with OneOnOne. Don't give away Sully: he has skills, he is smart and, he is 20 yo; also, you don't trade rookie who plays major minutes at high level.

 

AK

A would also expect Danny to shop for a dead eye three pts shooter..

The Knicks have them, Sa has them...we need another...to open things up inside..Green is starting to make some noice..but other than Terry, we don't have any consitancy there.

PP is no getting the job done there anymore, and I would not expect him to go through the who season as our only outside threat. Hopefully Barbosa can be more consistant.