Will Ainge step down?

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    Will Ainge step down?

    I watched that news conference yesterday and I came away with a thought that Ainge and management may be at odds over this Rivers situation. Ainge kept throwing little phrases out like "trade me for the 1st", "I haven't even looked for a coach".

    How can this be going on for over a week and Ainge not have anyone in mind to interview? Management said they wouldn't pay a big money for a coach in rebuilding. Does managment feel Doc walked away just after signing a 5 yr deal? Does Ainge have the energy to rebuild the team?

    Where's Bird??

     
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    I watched that news conference yesterday and I came away with a thought that Ainge and management may be at odds over this Rivers situation. Ainge kept throwing little phrases out like "trade me for the 1st", "I haven't even looked for a coach".

    How can this be going on for over a week and Ainge not have anyone in mind to interview? Management said they wouldn't pay a big money for a coach in rebuilding. Does managment feel Doc walked away just after signing a 5 yr deal? Does Ainge have the energy to rebuild the team?

    Where's Bird??




     

    Ainge would not step away from a challenge.  No indication that ownership is displeased with the job he's done.  Bird is in Indiana, and happilly so.

     
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    Ainge was embarrassed by the two faced, backstabbing Doc.. he has alot of explaining to do to the owners.. They shelled out $14M for a medicore coach and got a draft pick 2 years from now to show for it ....and a team left in shambles and a laughingstock..

    Would be nice to see Larry step up and take over the whole shabang...  plenty of 2nd tier coaches out there that would fit the C's and know how to coach basketball much more effectively than DOc.

    Hate repeating this but we never should have let Thibs get away...

     

     

     
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    He can't interview because Doc's deal was not final and approved until yesterday?

     
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    He can't interview because Doc's deal was not final and approved until yesterday?




    Yes you are correct in a way. However if the Celtics gave Doc permission to talk to the Clippers then all bets are off at that point...the Celtics have the right to interview other candidates. Doc can't dictate the entire scenario.

    If the Celtics had to send Doc a letter about him fulfilling his contract back on May 8th, you have to believe from that point on it was contentious. What was Ainge doing the entire time? Was he going to force Doc to coach the Celtics? It's obvious Doc was ready to go...and Ainge still hasn't moved on. I hope he makes the right hire.

     
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    In response to Number6Fan's comment:

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    Ainge would not step away from a challenge.  No indication that ownership is displeased with the job he's done.  Bird is in Indiana, and happilly so.

     



    Actually, Bird is not in Indy anymore.

     

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    He lives there still.

     
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    Not easy in practice.  I can cite a lot of things that would make it difficult to interview, like he was busy negotiating with the Clippers up until not so long ago, looking for another coach may have weaken his hand and he said all along he wanted Doc back if there was no deal, or how do you talk to a candidate when the job may or may not be there, or how he tell Doc that he is obligated to honor his contract but I am interviewing someone else at the same time.  It was a mess and PR nightmare and you want to add interviewing of various coaches into the mix?

     
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    Well at some point Ainge had to move on. Interviewing another candidate wasn't the key point of all of this. The key point is there seems to be a disconnect in what everyone wanted from ownership to Ainge to Doc. It seems everyone wanted something different. Did the reality of Doc leaving JUST not come to Ainge? That's hard to believe. If your wife wants to divorce you, you may keep trying to make it work but at some point you realize it's definitely not going to be reconciled to the point where she says "ok I'm staying".

     
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    Not easy in practice.  I can cite a lot of things that would make it difficult to interview, like he was busy negotiating with the Clippers up until not so long ago, looking for another coach may have weaken his hand and he said all along he wanted Doc back if there was no deal, or how do you talk to a candidate when the job may or may not be there, or how he tell Doc that he is obligated to honor his contract but I am interviewing someone else at the same time.  It was a mess and PR nightmare and you want to add interviewing of various coaches into the mix?



    To CYA, if you are DA, you do everything on the QT.

    Everybody lies like crazy about what  is going on.... including DA yesterday at the news conference glossing over what he knows happened but what the rest of the known universe only suspects happened.

    BTW, I had assumed that doc would have been  there too answering questions. He wasn't.. and that speaks volumes about the contentiousness about what had transpired... that no one wants to talk about either because it reflects so poorly on Cs management.

    Two particularly egregious talking points DA tried to make... both phoney baloney.... that stuck in my mind. 

    First... doc didn't quit on the CS and two, it had nothing to do with doc and Rondo's friction.

    We would have thought otherwise until you said  otherwise.

    So doc's leaving according to DA.... just happened... okay!

    Like spontaneous combustion maybe.

    Pud

     
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    No DA isn't stepping down. Yes I do think doc mailed it in the last month of the season. We were 2 games out of the 4th seed and then doc went 5-17 after,changing rotations and resting players. It's over, now I'm wiating to see what happens or doesn't happen on Thursday night. Anyones guess is as good as anyone else's.

     
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    Why would DA step down? I certainly don't want him to.

     
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    I hate to say this and I like Doc but he's looking like a front running coach. He can only coach when everything is good. He doesn't use all the tools in the toolbox and it creates injuries to the players he does play. He changes rotations for no reason. I'm anxious to see what he does with 2 one trick pony's in Griffin and Jordan.

     
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    I watched that news conference yesterday and I came away with a thought that Ainge and management may be at odds over this Rivers situation. Ainge kept throwing little phrases out like "trade me for the 1st", "I haven't even looked for a coach".

    How can this be going on for over a week and Ainge not have anyone in mind to interview? Management said they wouldn't pay a big money for a coach in rebuilding. Does managment feel Doc walked away just after signing a 5 yr deal? Does Ainge have the energy to rebuild the team?

    Where's Bird??Bird is in Florida where he feels very comfortable.Just waiting for a call from Indiana.

     




     
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    The Bird coming in makes some sense to me.  With Doc out and the seven million being saved,  maybe they can pay Bird enough to get him to come in.  Ainge did not have to let Doc go, so I say why did they do it.  KG and Pierce are still here.  Obviously Ainge was not being very straightforward.

     
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    Ainge was embarrassed by the two faced, backstabbing Doc.. he has alot of explaining to do to the owners.. They shelled out $14M for a medicore coach and got a draft pick 2 years from now to show for it ....and a team left in shambles and a laughingstock..

    Would be nice to see Larry step up and take over the whole shabang...  plenty of 2nd tier coaches out there that would fit the C's and know how to coach basketball much more effectively than DOc.

    Hate repeating this but we never should have let Thibs get away...

     That is your opinion.The celtics are going tru a rebuilding process.The team got older, time to move on.Stop blamiing Danny.Go Celtics.

     

     




     
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    I hate to say this and I like Doc but he's looking like a front running coach. He can only coach when everything is good. He doesn't use all the tools in the toolbox and it creates injuries to the players he does play. He changes rotations for no reason. I'm anxious to see what he does with 2 one trick pony's in Griffin and Jordan.

     




    I agree somewhat BLB, but it was reported that Doc also got another title in addition to coach, something like senior baketball advisor.  If he has some say in personnel matters, it may be part of why he was attracted to the position, besides being a front runner.  I don't like how Doc left, it looks like he's leaving the team in the hour of their need to coach a better team.  But if he aspires to move up to the front office, in LA or somewhere else, maybe this is a good move for him on two fronts. 

     

     
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    Good luck with getting a title in LA, Sterling will meddle and have the final say.  Doc is stupid if he thinks he will have a better off-court setting in LA.

     
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    Actually i don't see the Clippers as a better team...they are a highly paid flawed team.

    I think Doc was scared of Ainge moving PP and KG and being left with Rondo. He could've rode it out until that actually came to fruition but then the Clippers job would've been gone.

    Ok ok he didn't want to go through a rebuild fine, everyone understands that but I wonder why he didn't take into account that he lost Rondo and Sully during the year. I guess it's better to leave sooner than later.

    We will know the real deal at some point.

     
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    No, altho I'd be all for Bird as GM and DA coaching for a year or two.

     
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    Not easy in practice.  I can cite a lot of things that would make it difficult to interview, like he was busy negotiating with the Clippers up until not so long ago, looking for another coach may have weaken his hand and he said all along he wanted Doc back if there was no deal, or how do you talk to a candidate when the job may or may not be there, or how he tell Doc that he is obligated to honor his contract but I am interviewing someone else at the same time.  It was a mess and PR nightmare and you want to add interviewing of various coaches into the mix?


    Excellent post.Bingo

     
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    Well when you have to SEND your coach a letter on May 8th to tell him you expect him to honor his contract, it's time to start looking for a coach. You can't allow a coach to yank you around like that. Either he resigns and starts broadcasting games or if he's looking for another job, you let him know that he needs permission to do so. It got messy and I just think Ainge held on too long trying to CONVINCE Doc to come back. Once I have to start convincing you to coach my team...it's over.

     

     
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    Well when you have to SEND your coach a letter on May 8th to tell him you expect him to honor his contract, it's time to start looking for a coach. You can't allow a coach to yank you around like that. Either he resigns and starts broadcasting games or if he's looking for another job, you let him know that he needs permission to do so. It got messy and I just think Ainge held on too long trying to CONVINCE Doc to come back. Once I have to start convincing you to coach my team...it's over.

     




    bring in Larry Bird and tell Danny to take a hike. Larry can turn this franchise around because he knows how to win.

     
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    I watched that news conference yesterday and I came away with a thought that Ainge and management may be at odds over this Rivers situation. Ainge kept throwing little phrases out like "trade me for the 1st", "I haven't even looked for a coach".

    How can this be going on for over a week and Ainge not have anyone in mind to interview? Management said they wouldn't pay a big money for a coach in rebuilding. Does managment feel Doc walked away just after signing a 5 yr deal? Does Ainge have the energy to rebuild the team?

    Where's Bird??

     



    I sensed sarcasm in Ainge's words. You didn't? Of course he's looked. The line of questioning is redundant and what does he gain by explaining what he's looking for or his strategy to select one? Just increases everyone's scrutiny on the process he is employing. I see smoke screen!

     
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    Oh geez, what's wrong with saying "yes, we have done some exploratory searching in terms of a coach."

    Everything doesn't have to be done with a poker face. It felt like a funeral was going on and Ainge was giving the eulogy.

    GM's, Agents and other coaches already know if he's interviewed someone.

     
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