Re: BC gets what it deserves.
posted at 3/15/2011 2:36 AM EDT
In Response to Re: BC gets what it deserves.
[QUOTE]And let's not get into the massive increase in undergrad applications from states like North Carolina, Georgia and Florida. James, you quoted 2007 stats but what are they now? Sports success is what draws applicants as mentioned in the article. That's exactly how it works, said Michael Lovagliaa University of Iowa sociologist who has studied the topic. "There's a halo effect," The point is where is the success and how has the ACC elevated BC? They only got 4 teams to the dance and last year the Big East dwarfed the ACC also. Applicants may be up from down south but how about the travel expense for womens softball and lacrosse or your sailing team. I believe it is just lip service regarding the move. No one will ever come out and state it was a mistake. Marquette, Louisville, Cinncinnatti are delighted to join the Big East as out of towners when BC was an orginal. Maybe ND will join in football down the road, then will the move still look so good. NBC is being approached by Paul Tagliabue regarding a Big East network that will include ND. We shall see what we shall see.
Posted by jimreilly43[/QUOTE]
The above post is classic in its wrong-headed assertions and incorrect statements. It always amuses me when non-BC (or Big East) fans lecture BC fans on the "great mistake" that they have made.
BC's move to the ACC has been a huge success for the school. When BC was in the BE, they got about $5.5M a year from the BEC. BC now gets about $13M a year from the ACC. When BC was in the BE, alumni donations to BC athletics were abut $6M a year. Alumni donations to BC athletics have skyrocketed after BC's move to the ACC. This past year, alumni donations to BC athletics exceeded $27M!
BC's has never been more competitive across all of it sports teams. Men's and women's soccer, for example, have become national powers since BC joined the ACC. Two years ago, BC's baseball team made the College World Series for the first time since the early 60's.
Yes, the ACC only got 4 teams into the NCAA's this year. So what? Conferences have up and down years all the time. Big East football didn't have a single team in the Top 25 this past year! The ACC had 4 teams in the Top 25. (And let's not forget, football drove BC's move to the ACC.) You want to cherry-pick your facts, I can do that too.
The "travel cost" mantra is a huge canard and I think you know it. Most of any school's Olympic sports (swimming, track, etc.) don't play a full conference schedule. They play local teams and once a season travel to a conference tournament (that's the way the BE and the ACC do it - along with all of the other conferences.)
The fact is that travel in the BE would not be much different than travel in the ACC is now for BC. On balance, BC's travel expenses are about $300K higher than what they might be in the BE. That is weighed against about $7.5M in incremental conference revenues that BC now enjoys in the ACC. I will let you figure out how the math works in BC's favor here.
(Oh, and by the way, aren't you concerned about the travel costs that all of the BE teams will be racking up now that TCU will be joining the Conference?)
As a BC fan, I am glad that Louisville, Marquette, and Cinn. were delighted to join the BE. We are thrilled to be in the ACC so everyone should be happy, right??
I am always amazed that SIX YEARS after BC moved to the ACC we still get posts like this from BE fans. When do you guys move on? Seriously, these kind of posts are like the proverbial obsessive ex-spouse who has never gotten over a divorce and now spends their life reminding their former - now very content - ex-spouse of all the things they are supposedly missing.
BC is an ACC team. As the BC AD recently said: "BC will always be an ACC team as long s there is an ACC." The entire BC student fanbase - and the last two graduating classes - have only known the ACC. BC is happy in the ACC. It has provided the stability that BC has needed.
You BE guys need to move on - as BC has. Of course, we will know when you have moved on when we don't see posts like this anymore.
Oh, and good luck getting ND to join the BE for football...Yeah, thats going to happen soon! LOL !